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		By: MADAN LAL		</title>
		<link>https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-858033</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2015 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its amazing post on how insiders and seekers use . I blog often and I truly appreciate your
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing post on how insiders and seekers use . I blog often and I truly appreciate your<br>
content. The article has truly peaked my interest. I’m going to take a note of<br>
your website and keep checking for new details about once a week. in <a href="http://www.ibworldacademy.com" rel="nofollow">IB World Academy</a></p>
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		By: New Year 2013 Michael Kors		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Year 2013 Michael Kors]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah! I’m really loving the template/theme of this site.<br>
It’s simple, yet effective. A lot of times it’s tough to get that “perfect balance” between user friendliness and visual<br>
appearance. I must say you have done a great job with this.<br>
In addition, the blog loads extremely fast for me on Chrome.<br>
Outstanding Blog!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Martin Kelley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194433&quot;&gt;Barbquin&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Barb: this post is over five years old. I was thinking of the Friends who had been weighty committee Friends for decades and seemed to spend much of their time with those who had also been weighty committee Friends for decades. Some of the dynamics of online use have shifted since then. For one thing we have a half-generation that has come in through the internet. 

I know you certainly know how to use search engines! The internal discussion at QuakerQuaker are always a little funny. I often don&#039;t get much out of them myself. My main concern is still the main blog feed--the editor&#039;s picks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194433">Barbquin</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Barb: this post is over five years old. I was thinking of the Friends who had been weighty committee Friends for decades and seemed to spend much of their time with those who had also been weighty committee Friends for decades. Some of the dynamics of online use have shifted since then. For one thing we have a half-generation that has come in through the internet. </p>
<p>I know you certainly know how to use search engines! The internal discussion at QuakerQuaker are always a little funny. I often don’t get much out of them myself. My main concern is still the main blog feed–the editor’s picks.</p>
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		By: Barbquin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure about the insiders vs seekers dichotomy...Because I&#039;m an active member of a Friends meeting and I&#039;m willing to put up with sometimes annoying Friends and try to build our in-person community often against difficult odds and in spite of very stressful job duties, does that make me an &quot;insider&quot;? 

You know, it&#039;s happened that I&#039;ve responded to questions on QuakerQuaker and the dialog has ended there.  I finally came to the conclusion that I wasn&#039;t an online insider :-) 

BTW, although I can&#039;t do the extensive online stuff you do, I think I know how to use search engines ...I teach online research to college students.
--Barbara  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not sure about the insiders vs seekers dichotomy…Because I’m an active member of a Friends meeting and I’m willing to put up with sometimes annoying Friends and try to build our in-person community often against difficult odds and in spite of very stressful job duties, does that make me an “insider”? </p>
<p>You know, it’s happened that I’ve responded to questions on QuakerQuaker and the dialog has ended there.  I finally came to the conclusion that I wasn’t an online insider 🙂 </p>
<p>BTW, although I can’t do the extensive online stuff you do, I think I know how to use search engines …I teach online research to college students.<br>
–Barbara  </p>
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		By: Martin Kelley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194322&quot;&gt;dianamitchell&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Diana: Quaker Dharma has never been a very active blog. It&#039;s author Barry Crossno is now development director at the Pendle Hill Center near Philadelphia. I&#039;d guess that outreach is still a keen concern of his, but he&#039;s not pursuing it online.

If you follow the links on this site you&#039;ll see I&#039;ve been blogging about outreach for years and so have many others. It&#039;s interesting for me to reread this post from 2004. At that point I was an professional Friend (webmaster for Friends General Conference) with a blog on the side. A year later I was promoted to Advancement and Outreach Coordinator for FGC and a year later let go for reasons that are long-winded and not really the &quot;real reasons&quot; anyway. Since then a lot of money has been spent on outreach but it&#039;s hard to see what&#039;s come of it.

A lot of us are working on this over at http://www.quakerquaker.org. Please come  join. It&#039;s unofficial, unfunded, all-volunteer self-organized outreach. There&#039;s an &quot;Outreach and Media&quot; group for talking about outreach, but the whole site is really about sharing the Good News Friends have with the world. 

There are a lot of cool outreach efforts. Quakerinfo.org is wonderful. I&#039;ve been working with FWCCAmericas.org over the last few months to put together a great interactive map of Friends in the US and Canada which we launched just yesterday. Evangelical Friends at Barclaypress.com are doing good work. There is real interest out there, not as widespread as it should be and sometimes more fund-driven that really outreach-driven. But let&#039;s see what we can do!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194322">dianamitchell</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Diana: Quaker Dharma has never been a very active blog. It’s author Barry Crossno is now development director at the Pendle Hill Center near Philadelphia. I’d guess that outreach is still a keen concern of his, but he’s not pursuing it online.</p>
<p>If you follow the links on this site you’ll see I’ve been blogging about outreach for years and so have many others. It’s interesting for me to reread this post from 2004. At that point I was an professional Friend (webmaster for Friends General Conference) with a blog on the side. A year later I was promoted to Advancement and Outreach Coordinator for FGC and a year later let go for reasons that are long-winded and not really the “real reasons” anyway. Since then a lot of money has been spent on outreach but it’s hard to see what’s come of it.</p>
<p>A lot of us are working on this over at <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.quakerquaker.org</a>. Please come  join. It’s unofficial, unfunded, all-volunteer self-organized outreach. There’s an “Outreach and Media” group for talking about outreach, but the whole site is really about sharing the Good News Friends have with the world. </p>
<p>There are a lot of cool outreach efforts. Quakerinfo.org is wonderful. I’ve been working with FWCCAmericas.org over the last few months to put together a great interactive map of Friends in the US and Canada which we launched just yesterday. Evangelical Friends at Barclaypress.com are doing good work. There is real interest out there, not as widespread as it should be and sometimes more fund-driven that really outreach-driven. But let’s see what we can do!</p>
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		By: dianamitchell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[well, I&#039;m a Canadian Quaker. I just posted for the first time to Quaker Dharma, and look for 2009 postings there but see none. Quaker outreach seems to be dying, as are so many of our Meetings here. Older and older we get, with little to encourage Seekers, including that we don&#039;t participate in public forums any more, may march in the occasional protest, and generally go to Meetings, go home, do nothing to seek Seekers. What a shame! And what a betrayal of the values and practices so long practised by Quakers since Fox et al. 

I&#039;m dead keen on outreach, and see that rejuvenation comes with Seekers being encouraged to come, to stay, to actively join with us so that Meetins are enlivened, lives are enriched, and positive change is encouraged. 

I see you have participated in the Quaker Dharma site. What&#039;s happened to it, do you know? Diana in Victoria BC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I’m a Canadian Quaker. I just posted for the first time to Quaker Dharma, and look for 2009 postings there but see none. Quaker outreach seems to be dying, as are so many of our Meetings here. Older and older we get, with little to encourage Seekers, including that we don’t participate in public forums any more, may march in the occasional protest, and generally go to Meetings, go home, do nothing to seek Seekers. What a shame! And what a betrayal of the values and practices so long practised by Quakers since Fox et al. </p>
<p>I’m dead keen on outreach, and see that rejuvenation comes with Seekers being encouraged to come, to stay, to actively join with us so that Meetins are enlivened, lives are enriched, and positive change is encouraged. </p>
<p>I see you have participated in the Quaker Dharma site. What’s happened to it, do you know? Diana in Victoria BC</p>
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		By: tesmith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194120&quot;&gt;Martin Kelley&lt;/a&gt;.

Martin,
I completely agree with you that Quaker tradition shouldn&#039;t be blanket
permission.  My father was and I have been a pastor within FUM. I have also
worked with EFI individuals. My experience is that the &quot;Fundamentalist&quot; side
of Quakerism seems to rely too extensively on literalism and stuck with a
very exclusive and narrow view of &quot;Christianity.&quot; My experience with
&quot;liberal&quot; Quakers (with whom I have come to more closely identify with in
the past few decades) have lost a great deal of the Friends Tradition. The
inclusiveness that seems to be an underlying assumption is taken to the
point of not just tolerance but acceptance of a very wide belief base that
dilutes the power of &quot;Friends Experience.&quot; (Obviously biased. but I think
rightfully so, and hopefully not PREjudgemental) The celebration of
diversity and tolerance/love of enemy does not mean agreement with their
beliefs or actions but acceptance of their worth and value as having that of
God within them.

My personal belief is that the &quot;2&quot; sides have continued to push each other
further apart and thus further from the Center. (You know that to get 3
opinions you need ask only 2 Quakers.)

Thanks for your thoughtful response.


In Peace and Friendship,

Tom Smith]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_t/#comment-194120">Martin Kelley</a>.</p>
<p>Martin,<br>
I completely agree with you that Quaker tradition shouldn’t be blanket<br>
permission.  My father was and I have been a pastor within FUM. I have also<br>
worked with EFI individuals. My experience is that the “Fundamentalist” side<br>
of Quakerism seems to rely too extensively on literalism and stuck with a<br>
very exclusive and narrow view of “Christianity.” My experience with<br>
“liberal” Quakers (with whom I have come to more closely identify with in<br>
the past few decades) have lost a great deal of the Friends Tradition. The<br>
inclusiveness that seems to be an underlying assumption is taken to the<br>
point of not just tolerance but acceptance of a very wide belief base that<br>
dilutes the power of “Friends Experience.” (Obviously biased. but I think<br>
rightfully so, and hopefully not PREjudgemental) The celebration of<br>
diversity and tolerance/love of enemy does not mean agreement with their<br>
beliefs or actions but acceptance of their worth and value as having that of<br>
God within them.</p>
<p>My personal belief is that the “2” sides have continued to push each other<br>
further apart and thus further from the Center. (You know that to get 3<br>
opinions you need ask only 2 Quakers.)</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughtful response.</p>
<p>In Peace and Friendship,</p>
<p>Tom Smith</p>
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