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		By: Joe G.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like your point that some Friends tend to use the argument of &quot;tradition&quot; to invoke the need to do something (or not). I have done this throughout my career with Quakers. I recall Johan speaking at an FGC Conference about ten years ago making the very valid point that not ALL people desire or want to experience God in a strictly silent means. Could Friends, even us unprogrammed ones, be open to leadings that allowed for certain Meetings for Worship with music and/or a brief message? My Meeting at the time tried this, and we found that people in the neighborhood, who couldn&#039;t abide or understand the purpose of silence, started to come to Meeting! Hmm.
If I understand your point correctly, I&#039;m (gradually) realizing that it takes a lot more than just &quot;tradition&quot;, &quot;continuing revelation&quot;, &quot;confirmation by Scripture&quot;, &quot;leadings&quot;, or &quot;communcal discernment&quot;. It actually takes ALL of them (or at least a seasoned and well understood reason why one of these should be subordinated to the other &quot;tests&quot; of leadings by God). Or at least that is what it seems to be the case to me.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your point that some Friends tend to use the argument of “tradition” to invoke the need to do something (or not). I have done this throughout my career with Quakers. I recall Johan speaking at an FGC Conference about ten years ago making the very valid point that not ALL people desire or want to experience God in a strictly silent means. Could Friends, even us unprogrammed ones, be open to leadings that allowed for certain Meetings for Worship with music and/or a brief message? My Meeting at the time tried this, and we found that people in the neighborhood, who couldn’t abide or understand the purpose of silence, started to come to Meeting! Hmm.<br>
If I understand your point correctly, I’m (gradually) realizing that it takes a lot more than just “tradition”, “continuing revelation”, “confirmation by Scripture”, “leadings”, or “communcal discernment”. It actually takes ALL of them (or at least a seasoned and well understood reason why one of these should be subordinated to the other “tests” of leadings by God). Or at least that is what it seems to be the case to me.</p>
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