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		<title>In defense of Quaker media</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I gather that the Quaker Facebook group is going through one of its regular debates about identity and tone and moderation. The problem is Facebook. It is the most direct competitor of Quaker-produced media. Its algorithms and moderator tools are not designed for the kind of considered, inclusive, Spirit-led, and non-reactive discourse that is Quaker [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gather that the Quaker Facebook group is going through one of its regular debates about identity and tone and moderation. The problem is Facebook. It is the most direct competitor of Quaker-produced media. Its algorithms and moderator tools are not designed for the kind of considered, inclusive, Spirit-led, and non-reactive discourse that is Quaker style at its ideal (yes, we blow it ourselves constantly but hopefully keep striving).</p>
<p>I posted there tonight suggesting that Friends consider a media diet that includes more Quaker media—books and magazines and blogs and videos and in-real-life discussion opportunities. I worry that if Facebook groups become the most visible style of Quaker dialogue, then we will have lost something truly precious.</p>
<p>This message isn’t new to longtime readers of QuakerRanter. I extolled blogging as a <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/hey-yall-lets-start-a-blog/">hedge against Facebook</a>just yesterday and in August I wrote about some of the dialogue problems <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/facebook-superposters-and-the-loss-of-our-own-narrative/">inherent in the Facebook model</a>.</p>
<p>I’ve been figuring out Facebook strategies for Quaker media since it opened up to non-students circa 2006. I appreciate much of the attention it’s provided over the years. Social media like YouTube has also been a useful platform for things like the <a href="http://www.quakerspeak.com">Quakerspeak project</a>despite owner Google’s spotty track record. But it’s becoming hard to deny that social media has reshaped the style of civil discourse and trollish hackery, mostly for the worse. I think it’s really essential that we become more conscious of the sources of our daily media diet.</p>
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		<title>Who tells our story</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2018 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kathleen Wooten asks Who tells our story Who tells our story in this time?&#160; In today’s world of immediate news, and social media, and everyone having a twitter account and an opinion – there’s a lot of misinformation out there.&#160; Some of it might be damaging and outright manipulative.&#160; Some of it might just be [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen Wooten asks <a href="http://quakerkathleen.org/2018/05/26/britain-yearly-meetings-faith-and-practice-the-spread-of-social-media-and-telling-the-story-to-others-part-two/">Who tells our story</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Who tells our story in this time?&nbsp; In today’s world of immediate news, and social media, and everyone having a twitter account and an opinion – there’s a lot of misinformation out there.&nbsp; Some of it might be damaging and outright manipulative.&nbsp; Some of it might just be misinformed people, who are confusing Quakers (for example) with Amish folks, or Shakers.</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the reasons I’ve been so involved in Quaker media is my longtime concern that we’re in increasing danger of being defined by outsiders. A mainstream site with a page on Quakers can easily show up higher in search results than pages we create. &nbsp;For a long time back in the day, an entry on Quakers written by <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/history1.htm">some Unitarians</a> on <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/quaker.htm">Religioustolerance.com</a> was a top hit. Google and Facebook have long had more say in defining Quaker beliefs than any of our national organizations. Even when real-life Quakers are involved— in Facebook groups, Wikipedia editing, blogging, and the original Quaker.org—there was none of the kind of formal Quaker process (for better and worse) that historically characterized Quaker publishing.</p>
<p>One happy irony is that Kathleen herself came in through a channel with no Quaker involvement. She writes: ” I had never heard of Quakers until I took an internet quiz in my mid- thirties.” This is almost certainly the “Belief-o-Matic” Beliefnet quiz (confirmed in comments). The site was founded as a venture-capital-fueled &nbsp;attempt to win the advertising religion market in the heady years of what we retrospectively call the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble">dot-com bubble</a>. The original quiz dates further back to a still-going site called <a href="http://selectsmart.com">SelectSmart</a>, which hosts dozens of quizzes (“Which Bond Villain Are You?,” “What Pizza Topping Are You?,” “Pink Floyd Album Selector”), one of the most popular of which is “<a href="http://selectsmart.com/religion/">Belief System Selector</a>.” The site is Curt and Lori Anderson, a husband-and-wife team; he was the techie who programmed the quizzes; she hunted for content. She used online sources and her local library to coming up with questions for him to plug in for the belief quiz (<a href="http://acfnewsource.org.s60463.gridserver.com/religion/belief_o_matic.html">read some of the story here</a>&nbsp;and also <a href="https://www.deseretnews.com/article/828777/Click-to-find-a-religion-that-suits-you.html">here</a>). Beliefnet started hosting it independently, giving it a UI refresh and renaming it&nbsp;<a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/quizzes/beliefomatic.aspx">Belief-o-Matic</a>. For whatever reasons of wonky algorithms huge percentages of people who took the test came out as “Liberal Quaker” or “Orthodox Quaker.” No Friends were involved in the quiz, hence the archaic names (few Friends have identified as Orthodox for generations).</p>
<p>In the 2000s, this quiz was inadvertently far more successful in outreach than any program conceived by Friends (sorry PYM/FGC/Pendle Hill donors). I think we’ve all become better at media and telling our own story but Kathleen’s question—who tells our story in this time?—is still a key one. After all,&nbsp;Lori Anderson’s checklist of beliefs (on <a href="http://selectsmart.com/religion/desc2.html#LQ">SelectSmart</a> and <a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/2001/06/what-liberal-quakers-believe.aspx">Beliefnet</a>) are probably one of the most-read definitions of Liberal Quakerism.</p>
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<p><em>Updated July 2018</em></p>
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		<title>The open (Quaker) web</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Hardie’s semi-viral manifesto championing the open internet isn’t about Quakerism per se, but Chris is a Friend (and one time web host to everything Quaker within a hundred miles of Richmond, Ind.). Since the rise of corporate gate-keeping websites and then social media, I’ve worried that they represent some of the largest and least [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Hardie’s semi-viral manifesto <a href="https://chrishardie.com/2018/04/rebuilding-open-web/">championing the open internet</a> isn’t about Quakerism per se, but Chris is a Friend (and one time web host to everything Quaker within a hundred miles of Richmond, Ind.). Since the rise of corporate gate-keeping websites and then social media, I’ve worried that they represent some of the largest and least visible threats to the Quaker movement.</p>
<p>I use it all as a tool, for sure. But there are many ways in which we’re increasingly defined by corporations with no Quakers and no interest in us except for whatever engagement numbers they can generate. Look at the nonsense at many of the open Quaker Facebook groups as an obvious example. People with limited experience or knowledge and relatively fringe ideas can easily dominate discussion just by posting with a frequency that involved or careful Friends couldn’t match. Facebook doesn’t care if it’s a zoo as long as people come back to read the latest outrageous comment thread. Just because the topic is Quaker doesn’t mean the discourse really holds well to our values, historical or modern.</p>
<p>Add to this that Google and Facebook could make any of our Quaker-owned websites nearly invisible with a tweak of algorithms (this is not hypothetical: Facebook has dinged most publisher Pages over the years).</p>
<p>The open web has a lot of pluses. I’m glad to see a Friend among its prominent champions and I’d like to see Quaker readers seeking it out more (most easily by straying of Facebook and subscribing to blogs’ email lists). From Hardie:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course, there is an alternative to Facebook and other walled gardens: the open web. The alternative is the version of the Internet where you own your content and activity, have minimal dependence on third party business models, can discover new things outside of what for-profit algorithms show you, and where tools and services interact to enhance each other’s offerings, instead of to stamp each other out of existence.</p></blockquote>
<p>https://chrishardie.com/2018/04/rebuilding-open-web/amp/?__twitter_impression=true</p>
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