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		<title>Belonging and difference</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gil S on continuity and change: Many of us find difficulty in facing change. The way a meeting house is arranged and the way Quaker faith is expressed have both changed over time. There have always been those who find it difficult if not impossible to let go of what has gone before. In my [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gil S on continuity and change:</p>
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  Many of us find difficulty in facing change. The way a meeting house is arranged and the way Quaker faith is expressed have both changed over time. There have always been those who find it difficult if not impossible to let go of what has gone before. In my local meeting I always sit in the same place and acknowledge that I find change difficult, but in spite of this there are ways in which I have changed.
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<p>I suspect part of thr context of this is the hopes and fears of British Friends as they embark on a recision of their book of Faith and Practice. An editing group has recently been named.</p>
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		<title>Communities vs Religious Societies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over on Tape Flags and First Thoughts, Su Penn has a great post called “Still Thinking About My Quaker Meeting &#38; Me.” She writes about a process of self-identity that her meeting recently went through it and the difficulties she had with the process. I wondered whether this difficulty has become one of our modern-day [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on Tape Flags and First Thoughts, Su Penn has a great post called “<a href="http://tapeflags.blogspot.com/2010/06/still-thinking-about-my-quaker-meeting.html">Still Thinking About My Quaker Meeting &amp; Me</a>.” She writes about a process of self-identity that her meeting recently went through it and the difficulties she had with the process.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/img.skitch.com/20100615-gm2h2qmpp3mq1kw1nq4hh58n9g.jpg?w=640" align="right" alt="communitysociety">I wondered whether this difficulty has become one of our modern-day stages of developing in the ministry. Both <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/tag/bownas">Samuel Bownas</a> (<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=uNE-AAAAYAAJ&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=description+of+the+qualifications+necessary&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=hbwc4XRAwu&amp;sig=84o2nlcEu0sRWulJCYu8Q_wWNZg&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=ze0XTPiQFsLflgeczLy3Cw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=5&amp;ved=0CCIQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">read</a>/<a href="http://www.quakerbooks.org/description_of_the_qualifications_necessary.php">buy</a>) and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/howard_brinton_quaker_journals.php">Howard Brinton</a> (<a href="http://www.pendlehill.org/bookstore/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=209&amp;osCsid=6345963af5b6baa5ff8a5984060a62bc">buy</a>) identified typical stages that Friends growing in the ministry typically go through. Not everyone experiences Su’s rift between their meeting’s identity and a desire for a God-grounded meeting community, but enough of us have that I don’t think it’s the foibles of particular individuals or monthly meetings. Let me tease out one piece: that of individual and group identities. Much of the discussion in the comments of Su’s post have swirled around radically different conceptions of this. </p>
<p>Many modern Friends have become pretty strict individualists. We spend a lot of time talking about “community” but we aren’t practicing it in the way that Friends have understood it–as a “religious society.”&nbsp;The individualism of our age sees it as rude to state a vision of Friends that leaves out any of our members–even the most heterodox. We are only as united as our most far-flung believer (and every decade the sweep gets larger). The myth of our age is that all religious experiences are equal, both within and outside of particular religious societies, and that it’s intolerant to think of differences as anything more than language.</p>
<p>This is why I cast Su’s issues as being those of a minister. There has always been the need for someone to call us back to the faith. Contrary to modern-day popular opinion, this can be done with great love. It is in fact <a href="http://www.quakerjane.com/spirit.friends/spirituality-quaking.html">great love</a>&nbsp;(Quaker Jane) to share the good news of the directly-accessible loving Christ, who loves us so much He wants to show us the way to righteous living. This Quaker idea of righteousness has nothing to do with who you sleep with, the gas mileage of your car or even the “correctness” of your theology. Jesus boiled faithfulness down into two commands: love God with all your might (however much that might be) and love your neighbor as yourself.</p>
<p>A “religious society” is not just a “community.” As a religious society we are called to have a vision that is stronger and bolder than the language or understanding of individual members. We are not a perfect community, but we can be made more perfect if we return to God to the fullness we’ve been given. That is why we’ve come together into a religious society.</p>
<p>“What makes us Friends?” Just following the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/quaker_testimonies.php">modern testimonies</a> doesn’t put us very squarely in the Friends tradition–SPICE is just a recipe for respectful living. “What makes us Friends?” Just setting the stopwatch to an hour and sitting quietly doesn’t do it–a worship style is a container at best and false idol at worst. “How do we love God?” “How do we love our neighbor?”&nbsp;“What makes us Friends?”&nbsp;These are the questions of ministry. These are the building blocks of outreach.</p>
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<p>I’ve seen nascent ministers (“infant ministers” in the phrasing of Samual Bownas) start asking these questions, flare up on inspired blog posts and then taildive as they meet up with the cold-water reality of a local meeting that is unsupportive or inattentive. Many of them have left our religious society. How do we support them? How do we keep them? Our answers will determine whether our meeting are religious societies or communities.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since I use this blog as a bit of a personal journal, to remember dates and happenings, I should dutifully note that last night was the time four year old Theo pushed two year old Francis off the footstool while brushing teeth, causing said Francis to fall precipitously against the bathtub and open a nasty [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I use this blog as a bit of a personal journal, to remember dates and happenings, I should dutifully note that last night was the time four year old Theo pushed two year old Francis off the footstool while brushing teeth, causing said Francis to fall precipitously against the bathtub and open a nasty gash in his chin. Three hours and a Martin/Francis emergency room visit later there were four stitches in the poor guy’s chin. I’ll spare you all a description of the initial mess or the difficulty of holding down a screaming child while the doctor tries to put the stitches in. Everything is fine now. And no, no photos or Youtube videos of the proceedings. Maybe I’ll snap a picture of the stitches so Francis can see just where that scar came from!</p>
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