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		<title>Reviving Queer Worship</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my latest author podcast interview, I talk with R.E. Martin and Jason A. Terry about the efforts to bring back worship focused specifically on the queer community to Friends Meeting of Washington (FMW). I especially appreciate the work of connecting with elders who participated in this worship in decades past—through the worst of the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my latest author podcast interview, <a href="_wp_link_placeholder" data-wplink-edit="true">I talk with R.E. Martin and Jason A. Terry</a> about the efforts to bring back worship focused specifically on the queer community to Friends Meeting of Washington (FMW). I especially appreciate the work of connecting with elders who participated in this worship in decades past—through the worst of the AIDS epidemic and through the struggle for growing acceptance of the 1990s.</p>


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<p>You can watch the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Ci3Ry6Ags">full episode of my talk with R.E. and Jason</a> and read their article, “<a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/advices-and-queeries/">Advices and Que[e]ries: Chosen Family and Chosen Ancestors</a>.” </p>



<p><a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/issue-category/2025/affinity-groups-and-worship/">The October issue of <em>Friends Journal</em></a> is specifically about affinity groups: how and why and when we might break off into worship groups that specifically include and exclude Friends. October authors Vanessa Julye and Curtis Spence are interviewed as part of this month’s <em><a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/podcast/">Quakers Today</a></em> podcast episode, “<a href="http://Quakers &amp; Affinity Spaces: Finding Wholeness in a Separated World">Quakers &amp; Affinity Spaces: Finding Wholeness in a Separated World.</a>”</p>
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		<title>Traveling ministers and heartwarming elders</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2024 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m glad to see that Australian Friend David Johnson is doing traveling ministry in the U.S. I hope to join the worship at Marlborough Meeting in Pennsylvania on July 28. Doug Bennett wants us to rediscover the testimony of equality. I always think of equality as being one of the new formulations of Quaker testimonies [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>I’m glad to see that Australian Friend David Johnson is doing traveling ministry in the U.S. I hope to join <a href="https://www.marlboroughmeeting.org/marlborough/V2/DavidJohnsonTravels.html">the worship at Marlborough Meeting</a> in Pennsylvania on July 28.</p>



<p>Doug Bennett wants us to rediscover the <a href="https://riverviewfriend.wordpress.com/2024/07/09/reclaiming-the-quaker-testimony-of-equality/">testimony of equality</a>. I always think of <em>equality</em> as being one of the new formulations of Quaker testimonies brought to us by Howard Brinton and others in the mid-to-late twentieth century, so I’m not such a stickler about defining it but Bennett draws a distinction between it and <em>equity</em> and some of the DEI work happening. Not sure I agree with everything he says but it’s an interesting perspective.</p>



<p>Really happy to see <a href="https://fwccamericas.org/_wp/2024/07/08/fwcc-americas-announces-new-executive-secretary/">Evan Welkin come in as FWCC-Americas head</a>, filling the very big shoes of my friend Robin Mohr. Evan visited my house back in 2005 as part of a traveling ministries project sponsored by the Pickett Foundation (RIP) and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/twenty_first_century_traveling/">memorably coined the term uberQuaker in a guest post here on Quaker Ranter</a>. He’s <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/search/Evan+Welkin">written for <em>Friends Journal</em> a few times</a>, most personally and poignantly <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/chronic-relativity/">this 2014 article on addiction</a>.</p>



<p>OMG, a profile of Ruth Peterson in the Newtown Patch! <a href="https://patch.com/pennsylvania/newtown-pa/old-age-not-sissies-says-100-year-old-ruth-peterson">“Old Age is Not for Sissies” Says 100-Year-Old Ruth Peterson</a>. She was one of the first Quakers I met when I walked into the Abington (Pa.) Meetinghouse back in the late 1980s and she and her husband Charlie were always so bountifully supportive. When I took a year off after college to get my head straight, many of the people in my family worried about me but when I explained it to Ruth at coffee hour, she lit up and said “Oh, isn’t that so WONDERFUL!” Charlie hooked me up with various Quaker opportunities in the area, which led to a chain of events that landed me my first job. This was written by Barbara Simmons and posted by Norval Reece, who does a great job letting people in Bucks County know what’s happening with Friends.</p>
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		<title>Ministers, elders, and overseers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2018 17:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Jnana Hodson, a listing of three types of offices in traditional Quaker meetings: Traditionally, Quaker meetings recognized and nurtured individuals who had spiritual gifts as ministers, elders, or overseers. These roles could be filled by men or women, and their service extended over the entire congregation. Many Friends have dropped the term “overseers” in [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jnana Hodson, a listing of three types of offices in traditional Quaker meetings:</p>
<blockquote><p>
  Traditionally, Quaker meetings recognized and nurtured individuals who had spiritual gifts as ministers, elders, or overseers. These roles could be filled by men or women, and their service extended over the entire congregation.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Many Friends have dropped the term “overseers” in recent years, out of concern for how the word is so associated with slavery. As I understand it, early Friends’ use of the word came from its use as an English translation for <a href="https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/episkopos.html">Episkopos</a> in the New Testament. They considered themselves to be re-establishing early Christian models. For example, Acts 20:28:</p>
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  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
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<p>Bible translations that were geared toward a Catholic audience tended to stick to Latinized words and went with “bishop” over “overseer.” Quakers worried about the connotation of the word could propose that we just start naming bishops. It’s not as nutty as it might seem, as there are anabaptist churches who use the term to talk about roles within individual churches. Of course, sometimes name changes also mask changes in theology and I noticed that some of the more liberal Quaker meetings dropped “overseer” with a speed which they are not otherwise known for. Friends today are a lot more individualistic than Friends were when our institutions were set up — there are many good reasons for this in our histories. But I do hope we’re continuing to find adequate ways to notice and care for our members.<br>
&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="JgZxAMsGFq"><p><a href="https://friendjnana.wordpress.com/2018/10/20/we-need-all-three-and-more/">We need all three – and&nbsp;more</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Early Quaker “Yearly meetings”</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2018 04:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian Drayton is looking at an early form of public Quaker worship, who’s various names (including “yearly meetings”) have perhaps hidden them from modern Quaker consciousness: From the Quaker toolbox: “Yearly meetings” and related These meetings often included gatherings of ministers, and of elders (and sometimes the two together), and meetings mostly for Friends. But [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Drayton is looking at an early form of public Quaker worship, who’s various names (including “yearly meetings”) have perhaps hidden them from modern Quaker consciousness: <a href="https://amorvincat.wordpress.com/2018/03/18/from-the-quaker-toolbox-yearly-meetings-and-related/">From the Quaker toolbox: “Yearly meetings” and related</a></p>
<blockquote><p>These meetings often included gatherings of ministers, and of elders (and sometimes the two together), and meetings mostly for Friends. But the public worship was carefully prepared for — usually more than one session, often over more than one day, with lots of publicity ahead of time. Temporary meeting places were erected for large crowds (the word “booth” is used, these clearly held hundreds of people.</p>
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<p>Brian’s story reminds me of when I was a tourist in the “1652 Country” where Quakerism was born. One of the stops is Firbank Fell, where George Fox preached to thousands. Most histories call that sermon the official start of the Quaker movement.</p>
<p>But Firbank Fell itself is a desolate hillside miles from anywhere. There was a small ancient church there and then nothing but grazing fields off to the horizon. A thousand people in such a remote spot would have the feel of a music festival. And that’s kind of what was happening the week the unknown George Fox walked into that part of England. There was a organized movement that held independent religious preaching festivals. Fox was no doubt very moving and he might have given the seekers there a new way of thinking about their spiritual condition, but the movement was already there. I wonder if the general meetings of public worship that Drayton is tracking down is an echo of those earlier public festivals.</p>
<p>One of my Firbank Fell photos:</p>
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		<title>Reading John Woolman 3: The Isolated Saint</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading John Woolman Series: 1: The Public Life of a Private Man 2: The Last Safe Quaker 3: The Isolated Saint It’s said that John Woolman re-wrote his Journal three times in an effort to excise it of as many “I” references as possible. As David Sox writes in Johh Woolman Quintessential Quaker, “only on [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Reading John Woolman Series:<br>
1: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/reading-woolman-1-public-life-private-man/">The Public Life of a Private Man</a><br>
2: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/reading-john-woolman-2-last-safe-quaker/">The Last Safe Quaker</a><br>
3: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/reading_woolman_part_three_the/">The Isolated Saint</a></strong></p>
<p>It’s said that John Woolman re-wrote his <em>Journal</em> three times in an effort to excise it of as many “I” references as possible. As David Sox writes in <em>Johh Woolman Quintessential Quaker</em>, “only on limited occasion do we glimpse Woolman as a son, a father and a husband.” Woolman wouldn’t have been a very good blogger. Quoting myself from my introduction to Quaker blogs:</p>
<blockquote><p>blogs give us a unique way of sharing our lives—how our Quakerism intersects with the day-to-day decisions that make up faithful living. Quaker blogs give us a chance to get to know like-minded Friends that are separated by geography or artificial theological boundaries and they give us a way of talking to and with the institutions that make up our faith community.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’ve read many great Woolman stories over the years and as I read the Journal I eagerly anticipated reading the original account. It’s that same excitement I get when walking the streets of an iconic landscape for the first time: walking through London, say, knowing that Big Ben is right around the next corner. But Woolman kept letting me down.</p>
<p>One of the AWOL stories is his arrival in London. The <em>Journal’s</em> account:</p>
<blockquote><p>On the 8th of Sixth Month, 1772, we landed at London, and I went straightway to the Yearly Meeting of ministers and elders, which had been gathered, I suppose, about half an hour. In this meeting my mind was humbly contrite.</p></blockquote>
<p>But set the scene. He had just spent five weeks crossing the Atlantic in steerage among the pigs (he doesn’t actually specify his non-human bunkmates). He famously went out of his way to wear clothes that show dirt <em>because they show dirt</em>. He went straightaway: no record of a bath or change of clothes. Stories abound about his reception, and while are some of dubious origin, there are first hand accounts of his being shunned by the British ministers and elders. The best and most dubious story is the theme of another post.</p>
<p>I trust that Woolman was honestly aiming for meekness when he omitted the most interesting stories of his life. But without the context of a lived life he becomes an ahistorical figure, an icon of goodness divorced from the minutiae of the daily grind. Two hundred and thirty years of Quaker hagiography and latter-day appeals to Woolman’s authority have turned the tailor of Mount Holly into the otherworldly Quaker saint but the process started at John’s hands himself.</p>
<p>Were his struggles merely interior? When I look to my own ministry, I find the call to discernment to be the clearest part of the work. I need to work to be ever more receptive to even the most unexpected prompting from the Inward Christ and I need to constantly practice humility, love and forgiveness. But the practical limitations are harder. For years respectibility was an issue; relative poverty continues to be one. It is asking a lot of my wife to leave responsibility for our two small boys for even a long weekend.</p>
<p>How did Woolman balance family life and ministry? What did wife Sarah think? And just what was his role in the sea-change that was the the “Reformation of American Quakerism” (to use Jack Marietta’s phrase) that forever altered American Friends’ relationship with the world and set the stage for the schisms of the next century.</p>
<p>We also lose the context of Woolman’s compatriots. Some are named as traveling companions but the colorful characters go unmentioned. What did he think of the street-theater antics of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay">Benjamin Lay</a>, the Abbie Hoffman of Philadelphia Quakers. The most widely-told tale is of Lay walking into Philadelphia Yearly Meeting sessions, opening up a cloak to reveal military uniform underneath, and declaring that slave-made products were products of war, plunged a sword into a hollowed-out Bible full of pig’s blood, splattering Friends sitting nearby.</p>
<p>What role did Woolman play in the larger anti-slavery awakening happening at the time? It’s hard to tell just reading his <em>Journal</em>. How can we find ways to replicate his kind of faithfulness and witness today? Again, his <em>Journal</em> doesn’t give much clue.</p>
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<p>Picked up today in the Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Library:</p>
<ul>
<li><em>The Reformation of American Quakerism</em>, by Jack Marietta</li>
<li><em>John Woolman Quintessential Quaker</em>, by David Sox</li>
<li><i style="color: #000000;"><a href="http://www.quakerbooks.org/get/0-87574-940-2">The Tendering Presence: Essays on John Woolman</a></i>, edited by Mike Heller</li>
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<p>PYM Librarian Rita Varley reminded me today they mail books anywhere in the US for a modest fee and a $50/year subscription. It’s a great deal and a great service, especially for isolated Friends. The PYM catalog is online too!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[A workshop led by Zachary Moon and Martin Kelley at the 2005 FGC Gathering of Friends. &#160; This is for Young Friends who want to break into the power of Quakerism: it’s the stuff you didn’t get in First Day School. Connecting with historical Quakers whose powerful ministry came in their teens and twenties, we’ll [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>A workshop led by Zachary Moon and Martin Kelley at the 2005 FGC Gathering of Friends.</h3>
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<p>This is for Young Friends who want to break into the power of Quakerism: it’s the stuff you didn’t get in First Day School. Connecting with historical Quakers whose powerful ministry came in their teens and twenties, we’ll look at how Friends wove God, covenants and gospel order together to build a movement that rocked the world. We’ll mine Quaker history to reclaim the power of our tradition, to explore the living testimonies and our witness in the world. (P/T)</p>
<p>Percentage of time: Worship 20 / Lecture 30 / Discussion 50</p>
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<h3>Extended Description</h3>
<p>We hope to encourage Friends to imagine themselves as ministers and elders and to be bold enough to challenge the institutions of Quakerism as needed. We want to build a community, a cohort, of Friends who aren’t afraid to bust us out of our own limited expectations and give them space to grow into the awareness that their longing for deeper spiritual connection with shared widely among others their age. Our task as workshop conveners is to model as both bold and humble seekers after truth, who can stay real to the spirit without taking ourselves either too seriously or too lightly.</p>
<p>Martin and Zachary have discovered a Quaker tradition more defined, more coherent and far richer than the Quakerism we were offered in First Day School. In integrity to that discovery, we intend to create a space for fellowship that would further open these glimpses of what’s out there and what possibilities exist to step out boldly in this Light.</p>
<p><strong>Sunday: Introductions</strong><br>
<em>The most important task for today is modeling the grounded worship and spirit-led ministry that will be our true curriculum this week. In a worship sharing format we will consider these questions:</em></p>
<ul>
<li>What brought me to this workshop?</li>
<li>What did they fail to teach me in First Day School that I still want to know?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Monday: What is this Quakerism?</strong><br>
<em>Today will be about entering this grounded space together as Friends, beginning to ask some questions that reveal and open. How do I articulate what Quakerism is all about? What ideas, language, and words (e.g. “God”, “Jesus” “Light”) do use to describe this tradition? Today we start that dialogue. At the end of session we will ask participants to seek out an older Friend and ask them for their answers on these queries and bring back that experience to our next gathering.</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Worship. Reading of selected texts from journal and Bible</li>
<li>Present question: When someone asks me “what is Quakerism?” how do I respond.</li>
<li>Martin and Zachary will share some thoughts on this question from other Friends</li>
<li>Journaling on Query</li>
<li>Discussion of ideas and language.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Tuesday: The Mystical Tradition and Gospel Order</strong><br>
<em>We enter into the language and fabric of our Tradition at its mystical roots. Asking the questions: What does God feel like? Introduce early Quaker’s talk about God. What does it feel like to be with God? What is Gospel Order?</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Worship. Reading of selected texts from journals and Bible</li>
<li>Follow-up on previous day’s discussion/homework what new came into the Light overnight?</li>
<li>Journaling on Query: When have I felt the presence of God? Describe it in five senses?</li>
<li>Initial discussion and sharing of thoughts and ideas.</li>
<li>Introduce some ideas from early Friends and others on this Query. How have others (Jesus, Isaiah, Merton, Fox, Day) spoken of this experience?</li>
<li>Introduce themes of Spiritual Practice: If Quakerism is about asking the right questions, how do we get into the place to hear those questions and respond faithfully? We have already been incorporating devotional reading into our time together each morning but we will introduce into the Light of Discipline as such here. Naming of other practices, previously acknowledged and otherwise, within the group.</li>
<li>Introduce ‘Spiritual Discernment’ themes for the following day’s session.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Wednesday: The Roots of Friends’ Discernment Tradition and the Testimonies</strong><br>
<em>We delve into the archives, the dusty stuff, the stuff First Day School didn’t get to: the preaching from the trees, the prison time, the age George Fox was when he was first incarcerated for his beliefs, what the testimonies are really about and where they came from. Today is about taking the skeletons out of the closet and cleaning house.</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Worship. Reading of selected texts from journals and Bible</li>
<li>‘Let’s talk history’: Early Friends, the Making of The Society, and the Discernment Tradition. [Martin and Zachary may cover this, or we may arrange to have another Friend come and share some thoughts and infuse a new voice into our dialogue]</li>
<li>There are lots of testimonies: what are ours? Name some. How to they facilitate our relationship with God?</li>
<li>What’s up with “Obedience”, “Plainness”, and “Discipline”? How do we practice them?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Thursday: Friends in a Covenanted Relationship</strong><br>
<em>We grow into our roles as leaders in this community by considering the opportunities and the hurdles in deepening our <b style="color: black; background-color: #a0ffff;">covenant</b> relationship. We begin with considering spiritual gifts, and then consider questions around ministry, its origin and its discernment. We will take up the task of considering what our work, what piece of this responsibility is ours to carry.</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Worship. Reading of selected texts from journals and Bible</li>
<li>Journaling on the Queries: What is alive inside of me? How are my spiritual gifts named and nurtured?</li>
<li>What are the tasks of ministry?</li>
<li>What are the tasks of eldering?</li>
<li>What are the structures and practices in our monthly, quarterly and yearly meetings that we can use to test out and support leadings? How do these structures work and not work. Clearness committees? Traveling Friends? Spiritual nurture/affinity groups?</li>
<li>What is holding us back from living this deepened relationship? What is our responsibility to this <b style="color: black; background-color: #a0ffff;">covenant</b> and this <b style="color: black; background-color: #a0ffff;">covenant</b> community?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Friday: The Future of Quakerism</strong><br>
<em>We begin the work that will occupy the rest of our lives. The participants of this workshop will be around for the next fifty or more years, so let’s start talking about systematic, long-term change. We have something to contribute to this consideration right now.</em></p>
<ul>
<li>Worship. Reading of selected texts from journals and Bible</li>
<li>Where do we go from here? Martin will present on emergent church. Zachary will present some thoughts on ‘Beloved Community’.<br>
Many have talked about deep communion with God and about <b style="color: black; background-color: #a0ffff;">covenant</b> community. Many have spoken our hearts and given voice to the passion we experience; now it’s on us what are <i>we</i> going to do about it? Where is it happening?</li>
<li>Discussion (maybe as a fishbowl) Where do we envision Quakerism 50 years from now? 100 years from now?</li>
</ul>
<h4>External Website: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org" target="new">Quaker Ranter, Martin’s site.</a></h4>
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		<title>We’re All Ranters Now: On Liberal Friends and Becoming a Society of Finders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s time to explain why I call this site “The Quaker Ranter” and to talk about my home, the liberal branch of Quakers. Non-Quakers can be forgiven for thinking that I mean this to be a place where I, Martin Kelley, “rant,” i.e., where I “utter or express with extravagance.” That may be the result [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s time to explain why I call this site “The Quaker Ranter” and to talk about my home, the liberal branch of Quakers. Non-Quakers can be forgiven for thinking that I mean this to be a place where I, Martin Kelley, “rant,” i.e., where I “utter or express with extravagance.” That may be the result (smile), but it’s not what I mean and it’s not the real purpose behind this site.</p>
<h3>Friends and Ranters</h3>
<p>The Ranters were fellow-travelers to the Friends in the religious turmoil of seventeenth-century England. The countryside was covered with preachers and lay people running around England seeking to revive primitive Christianity. George Fox was one, declaring that “Christ has come to teach his people himself” and that hireling clergy were distorting God’s message. The movement that coalesced around him as “The Friends of Truth” or “The Quakers” would take its orders directly from the Spirit of Christ.</p>
<p>This worked fine for a few years. But before long a leading Quaker rode into the town of Bristol in imitation of Christ’s entry into Jerusalem. Not a good idea. The authorities convicted him of heresy and George Fox distanced himself from his old friend. Soon afterwards, a quasi-Quaker collection of religious radicals plotted an overthrow of the government. That also didn’t go down very well with the authorities, and Fox quickly disavowed violence in a statement that became the basis of our peace testimony. Clearly the Friends of the Truth needed to figure out mechanisms for deciding what messages were truly of God and who could speak for the Friends movement.</p>
<p>The central question was one of authority. Those Friends recognized as having the gift for spiritual discernment were put in charge of a system of discipline over wayward Friends. Friends devised a method for determining the validity of individual leadings and concerns. This system rested on an assumption that Truth is immutable, and that any errors come from our own willfulness in disobeying the message. New leadings were first weighed against the tradition of Friends and their predecessors the Israelites (as brought down to us through the Bible).</p>
<p>Ranters often looked and sounded like Quakers but were opposed to any imposition of group authority. They were a movement of individual spiritual seekers. Ranters thought that God spoke directly to individuals and they put no limits on what the Spirit might instruct us. Tradition had no role, institutions were for disbelievers.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Quakers set up Quarterly and Yearly Meetings to institutionalize the system of elders and discipline. This worked for awhile, but it shouldn’t be too surprising that this human institution eventually broke down. Worldliness and wealth separated the elders from their less well-to-do brethren and new spiritual movements swept through Quaker ranks. Divisions arose over the eternal question of how to pass along a spirituality of convincement in a Society grown comfortable. By the early 1800s, Philadelphia elders had became a kind of aristocracy based on birthright and in 1827 they disowned two-thirds of their own yearly meeting. The disowned majority naturally developed a distrust of authority, while the aristocratic minority eventually realized there was no one left to elder.</p>
<p>Over the next century and a half, successive waves of popular religious movements washed over Friends. Revivalism, Deism, Spiritualism and Progressive Unitarianism all left their mark on Friends in the Nineteenth Century. Modern liberal Protestantism, Evangelicalism, New Ageism, and sixties-style radicalism transformed the Twentieth. Each fad lifted up a piece of Quakers’ original message but invariably added its own incongruous elements into worship. The Society grew ever more fractured.</p>
<p>Faced with ever-greater theological disunity, Friends simply gave up. In the 1950s, the two Philadelphia Yearly Meetings reunited. It was celebrated as reconciliation. But they could do so only because the role of Quaker institutions had fundamentally changed. Our corporate bodies no longer even try to take on the role of discerning what it means to be a Friend.</p>
<h3>We are all Ranters now</h3>
<p>Liberal Quakers today tend to see their local Meetinghouse as a place where everyone can believe what they want to believe. The highest value is given to tolerance and cordiality. Many people now join Friends because it’s the religion without a religion, i.e., it’s a community with the form of a religion but without any theology or expectations. We are a proud to be a community of seekers. Our commonality is in our form and we’re big on silence and meeting process.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder that almost everyone today seems to be a hyphenated Quaker? We’ve got Catholic-Quakers, Pagan-Quakers, Jewish-Quakers: if you can hyphenate it, there’s a Quaker interest group for you. I’m not talking about Friends nourished by another tradition: we’ve have <a href="http://www.qhpress.org/texts/barclay/">historically been graced</a> and continue to be graced by converts to Quakerism whose fresh eyes let us see something new about ourselves. No, I’m talking about people who practice the outward form of Quakerism but look elsewhere for theology and inspiration. If being a Friend means little more than showing up at Meeting once a week, we shouldn’t be surprised that people bring a theology along to fill up the hour. It’s like bringing a newspaper along for your train commute every morning.</p>
<p>But the appearance of tolerance and unity comes at a price: it depends on everyone forever remaining a Seeker. Anyone who wants to follow early Friends’ experience as “Friends of the Truth” risks becomes a Finder who threatens the negotiated truce of the modern Quaker meeting. If we really are a people of God, we might have to start acting that way. We might all have to pray together in our silence. We might all have to submit ourselves to God’s will. We might all have to wrestle with each other to articulate a shared belief system. If we were Finders, we might need to define what is unacceptable behavior for a Friend, i.e., on what grounds we would consider disowning a member.</p>
<p>If we became a religious society of Finders, then we’d need to figure out what it means to be a Quaker-Quaker: someone who’s theology <em>and</em> practice is Quaker. We would need to put down those individual newspapers to become a People once more. I’m not saying we’d be united all the time. We’d still have disagreements. Even more, we would once again need to be vigilant against the re-establishment of repressive elderships. But it seems obvious to me that Truth lies in the balance between authority and individualism and that it’s each generation’s task to restore and maintain that balance.</p>
<p></p><center>* * *</center>Over the years a number of older and wiser Friends have advised me to live by Friends’ principles and to challenge my Meeting to live up to those ideals. But in my year serving as co-clerk of a small South Jersey Meeting, I learned that almost no one else there believed that our business meetings should be led by the real presence of the living God. I was stuck trying to clerk using a model of corporate decision-making that I alone held. I would like to think those wiser Friends have more grounded Meetings. Perhaps they do. But I fear they just are more successful at kidding themselves that there’s more going on than there is. I agree that the Spirit is everywhere and that Christ is working even we don’t recognize it. But isn’t it the role of a religious community to recognize and celebrate God’s presence in our lives?
<p>Until Friends can find a way to articulate a shared faith, I will remain a Ranter. I don’t want to be. I long for the oversight of a community united in a shared search for Truth. But can any of us be Friends if so many of us are Ranters?</p>
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<h3>More Reading</h3>
<blockquote><p>For those interested, “We all Ranters Now” paraphrases (birthright Friend) Richard Nixon’s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_are_all_Keynesians_now">famous quote (semi-misattributed)</a> about the liberal economist John Maynard Keynes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.quakerinfo.com/keepfait.shtml">Bill Samuel</a> has an interesting piece called “Keeping the Faith” that addresses the concept of Unity and its waxing and waning among Friends over the centuries.</p>
<p>Samuel D. Caldwell gave an interesting lecture back in 1997, <a href="http://www.pendlehill.org/Lectures%20and%20Writings/caldwell.html">Quaker Culture vs. Quaker Faith</a>. An excerpt: “Quaker culture and Quaker faith are… often directly at odds with one another in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting today. Although it originally derived from and was consistent with Quaker faith, contemporary Quaker culture in this Yearly Meeting has evolved into a boring, peevish, repressive, petty, humorless, inept, marginal, and largely irrelevant cult that is generally repugnant to ordinary people with healthy psyches. If we try to preserve our Quaker culture, instead of following the leadings of our Quaker faith, we will most certainly be cast out of the Kingdom and die.”</p>
<p>I talk a bit more about these issues in <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/sodium_free_friends.php">Sodium Free Friends</a>, which talks about the way we sometimes intentionally mis-understand our past and why it matters to engage with it. Some pragmantic Friends defend our vagueness as a way to increase our numbers. In <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">The Younger Evangelicals and the Younger Quakers</a> I look at a class of contemporary seekers who would be receptive to a more robust Quakerism and map out the issues we’d need to look at before we could really welcome them in.</p></blockquote>
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