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		<title>Tell them all this but do not expect them to listen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 05:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that one of the cornerstones of Judeo-Christian philosophy is to remember the stories. I’m more than three-quarters of the way through the Bible (I’m stretching my&#160;One Year Bible plan across two years) and that’s really all it is: story after story of human’s relations with God. Friends have picked up this [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that one of the cornerstones of Judeo-Christian philosophy is to remember the stories. I’m more than three-quarters of the way through the Bible (I’m stretching my&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2009/01/one_year_bible_quaker_group/">One Year Bible plan</a> across two years) and that’s really all it is: story after story of human’s relations with God. Friends have picked up this methodology in a big way. <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/08/howard_brinton_quaker_journals/">Our primary religious education</a> is the journals elders have been asked to write to recount the trials and prophetic openings of a life lived in an attempt at spiritual obedience.</p>
<p><a href="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jeremiah-by-Michelangelo.png?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1081" title="Jeremiah by Michelangelo" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jeremiah-by-Michelangelo.png?resize=300%2C216&#038;ssl=1" alt width="300" height="216" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jeremiah-by-Michelangelo.png?resize=300%2C216&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Jeremiah-by-Michelangelo.png?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px"></a>There must be a purpose to this constant story review, some way it deepens our own spiritual lives. One gift it gives to me is perspective. I was just taking an evening bath and found myself getting upset about a particular situation from my past and stopped to pick up my One Year Bible. The Old Testament readings for most of Tenth Month come from Jeremiah. Here’s a bit of God’s instructions to the prophet:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Tell them all this, but do not expect them to listen. Shout out your warnings but do not expect them to respond. Say to them, ‘This is the nation whose people will not obey the Lord their God and who refuse to be taught. Truth has vanished from among them; it is no longer heard on their lips.’&nbsp;” (Jer 7:27)</p></blockquote>
<p>And later:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Jeremiah, say to the people, ‘This is what the Lord says: When people fall down, don’t they get up again? When they discover they’re on the wrong road, don’t they turn back? Then why do these people stay on their self-destructive path? Why do the people of Jerusalem refuse to turn back? They cling tightly to their lies and will not turn around.’&nbsp;” (Jer 8:4)</p></blockquote>
<p>Here we are, Sixth Century B.C., and the spiritual state of God’s people is in a terrible state. It makes my aggrievements look petty. And maybe that’s the point. The relationship between God and His people have been in a rollar coaster ride for&nbsp;millennia. Sure, Jesus’ new covenant brought about a lot of changes but didn’t end&nbsp;hypocrisy&nbsp;or faithlessness. Protestants can point to the reformation and Friends to the new people gathered by George Fox but both movements long ago floundered on the shoals of human weakness. History hasn’t stopped. The trials of the spiritual don’t stop. We don’t get a free ride of spiritual ease just because we’re on the current edge of human history.</p>
<p>As early Friends were aware, a spiritual life still requires lifting of the cross. It’s easy to let disappointments lead to despair, and to retreat into the many temptations of the modern world has at ready supply. In that state it’s easy to put off worrying about our duties to our fellow humans, to life on earth and to God. Every once in a while I’ll get whiny about something and my dear wife will say “get over it and do what you need to do already.” We’ve remembered the story of Jeremiah for 2500 years for the same reason: “you think you’ve got it bad, you’re not being decimated and enslaved in Babylon!” Perspective.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">* * *</p>
<p>I’m still thinking about one of the conversations I had the other week at <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2010/09/visit-to-vineland-mennonite-church/">Vineland Mennonite Church</a>–about the difference between theology and Biblicism. I like theology and I like learning about the context of Bible stories I read. I enjoy hearing new theories about old paradoxes (for example, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan#Road_from_Jerusalem_to_Jericho">Martin Luther King’s take on the story of the Good Samaritan</a> fascinates me in part because it reminds me that the story is set on a real road and is intended as a story about real people making difficult choices). But I’m also aware that it’s easy to spend so much time reading and talking about the commentary that I forget to read the original stories themselves. If stories are religious ed, then we have to remember to actually read the stories. Sometimes when I stumble on the cool blogs of the cleverest ministers I wonder if they stop to actually read the stories. So much energy seems to be expended on making up new words and giving messages of easy hope. I can’t see Jeremiah joining them at the local church brew pub fest to hoist a Rolling Rock. The current New Testament reading in the One Year Bible is Paul’s letter to the Colossian, which includes this gem:</p>
<blockquote><p>Don’t let anyone capture you (Colossians) with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m sure George Fox hooted in joy when he read that line! The stories remind us that all is not well and that all will not be well. Temptations still nips at our best intentions. The greatest temptation is self-reliance. Our test as individuals and as a people will be demonstrated by how we patiently and faithfully we bear the hardships we encounter and keep our trust in the risen Christ.</p>
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		<title>Blogging for the Kingdom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warning: this is a blog post about blogging. It’s always fascinating to watch the ebb and flow of my blogging. Quakerranter, my “main” blog has been remarkably quiet. I’m still up to my eyeballs with blogging in general: posting things to QuakerQuaker, giving helpful comments and tips, helping others set up blogs as part of [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warning: this is a blog post about blogging.</p>
<p>It’s always fascinating to watch the ebb and flow of my blogging. Quakerranter, my “main” blog has been remarkably quiet. I’m still up to my eyeballs with blogging in general: posting things to <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/">QuakerQuaker</a>, giving helpful comments and tips, helping others set up blogs as part of my consulting business. My <a href="http://www.quackquack.org">Tumblr blog</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/martinkelley">Facebook</a> and <a href="http://www.twitter.com/martin_kelley">Twitter</a> feeds all continue to be relatively active. But most of these is me giving voice to others. For two decades now, I’ve zigzagged between writer and publisher; lately I’ve been focused on the latter.</p>
<p>When I started blogging about Quaker issues seven years ago, I was a low-level clerical employee at an Quaker organization. It was clear I was going nowhere career-wise, which gave me a certain freedom. More importantly, blogs were a nearly invisible medium, read by a self-selected group that also wanted to talk openly and honestly about issues. I started writing about issues in among liberal Friends and about missed outreach opportunities. A lot of what I said was spot on and in hindsight, the archives give me plenty of “told you so” credibility. But where’s the joy in being right about what hasn’t worked?</p>
<p>Things have changed over the years. One is that I’ve resigned myself to those missed opportunities. Lots of Quaker money and humanly activity is going into projects that don’t have God as a center. No amount of ranting is going to dissuade good people from putting their faith into one more staff reorganization, mission rewrite or clever program.It’s a distraction to spend much time worrying about them.</p>
<p>But the biggest change is that my heart is squarely with God. I’m most interested in sharing Jesus’s good news. I’m not a cheerleader for any particular human institution, no matter how noble its intentions. When I talk about the good news, it’s in the context of 350 years of Friends’ understanding of it. But I’m well aware that there’s lots of people in our meetinghouses that don’t understand it this way anymore. And also aware that the seeker wanting to pursue the Quaker way might find it more closely modeled in alternative Christian communities. There are people all over listening for God and I see many attempts at reinventing Quakerism happening among non-Friends.</p>
<p>I know this observation excites some people to indignation, but so be it: I’m trusting God on this one. I’m not sure why He’sgiven us a world why the communities we bring together to worship Him keep getting distracted, but that’s what we’ve got (and it’s what we’ve had for a long time). Every person of faith of every generation has to remember, re-experience and revive the message. That happens in church buildings, on street corners, in living rooms, lunch lines and nowadays on blogs and internet forums.We can’t get too hung up on all the ways the message is getting blocked. And we can’t get hung up by insisting on only one channel of sharing that message. We must share the good news and trust that God will show us how to manifest this in our world: his kingdom come and will be done on earth.</p>
<p>But what would this look like?</p>
<p>When I first started blogging there weren’t a lot of Quaker blogs and I spent a lot more time reading other religious blogs. This was back before the emergent church movement became a wholly-owned subsidiary of Zondervan and wasn’t dominated by hype artists (sorry, a lot of big names set off my slime-o-meter these days). There are still great bloggers out there talking about faith and readers wanting to engage in this discussion. I’ve been intrigued by the historical example of <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/?s=thomas+clarkson">Thomas Clarkson</a>, the Anglican who wrote about Friends from a non-Quaker perspective using non-Quaker language. And sometimes I geek out and explain some Quaker point on a Quaker blog and get thanked by the author, who often is an experienced Friend who had never been presented with a classic Quaker explanation on the point in question. My tracking log shows seekers continue to be fascinated and drawn to us for our traditional testimonies, especially plainness.</p>
<p>I’ve put together topic lists and plans before but it’s a bit of work, maybe too much to put on top of what I do with QuakerQuaker (plus work, plus family). There’s also questions about where to blog and whether to simplify my blogging life a bit by combining some of my blogs but that’s more logistics rather than vision.</p>
<p><strong>Interesting stuff I’m reading that’s making me think about this:</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://magdalenaperks.wordpress.com/2010/03/03/mission-credibility/">Mission Credibility</a> by Anglican Plain</li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/religion-blogosphere/">The New Landscape of the Religion Blogosphere</a> on the Immanent Frame, “principally written” by Nathan Schneider, who’s one of the contributors at <a href="http://killingthebuddha.com/">Killing the Buddha</a>.</li>
<li>LizOpp’s <a href="http://thegoodraisedup.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-blog-because-i-dive.html">I Blog Because I Dive</a>.</li>
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		<title>Movement for a New Society and the Old New Monastics</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robin wrote a little about the New Monastic movement in a plug for the Pendle Hill workshop I’m doing with Wess Daniels this Fall. Here’s my working theory: I think Liberal Friends have a good claim to inventing the “new monastic” movement thirty years ago in the form of Movement for a New Society, a [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin wrote a little about the <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-monasticism-in-print-and-in-person.html">New Monastic movement</a> in a plug for the <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/events/new-monastics-and-convergent">Pendle Hill workshop</a> I’m doing with <a href="http://www.gatheringinlight.com/">Wess Daniels</a> this Fall. </p>
<p>Here’s my working theory: I think Liberal Friends have a good claim to inventing the “new monastic” movement thirty years ago in the form of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_a_New_Society">Movement for a New Society</a>, a network of peace and anti-nuclear activists based in Philadelphia that codified a kind of “secular Quaker” decision-making process and trained thousands of people from around the world in a kind of engaged drop-out lifestyle that featured low-cost communal living arrangements in poor neighborhoods with part-time jobs that gave them flexibility to work as full-time community activists. There are few activist campaigns in the 1970s and 1980s that weren’t touched by the MNS style and a less-ideological, more lived-in MNS culture survives today in borderline neighborhoods in Philadelphia and other cities. The high-profile new monastics rarely seem to give any props to Quakers or MNS, but I’d be willing to bet if you sat in on any of their meetings the process would be much more inspired by MNS than Robert’s Rules of Order or any fifteen century monastic rule that might be cited.</p>
<p>For a decade I lived in West Philly in what I called “the ruins of the Movement for a New Society.” The formal structure of MNS had disbanded but many of its institutions carried on in a <a href="http://www.upenn.edu/gazette/0706/feature3.html">kind of lived-in way</a>. I worked at the remaining publishing house, <a href="http://www.newsociety.com/NSPaboutnsp.php">New Society Publishers</a>, lived in a <a href="http://www.vortexhouse.org/LCA/history.shtml">land-trusted West Philly coop house</a>, and was fed from the old <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/mariposa-food-co-op-philadelphia">neighborhood food coop</a> and occasionally dropped in or helped out with <a href="http://trainingforchange.org/">Training for Change</a>, a revived training center started by MNS-co-founder (and Central Philadelphia Meeting-member) George Lakey It was a tight neighborhood, with strong cross-connections, and it was able to absorb related movements with different styles (e.g., a strong anarchist scene that grew in the late 1980s). I don’t think it’s coincidence that some of the Philly emergent church projects started in West Philly and is strong in the neighborhoods that have become the new ersatz West Philly as the actual neighborhood has gentrified.</p>
<p>So some questions I’ll be wrestling with over the next six months and will bring to Pendle Hill:</p>
<ul>
<li>Why haven’t more of us in the Religious Society of Friends adopted this engaged lifestyle?</li>
<li>Why haven’t we been good at articulating it all this time?</li>
<li>Why did the formal structure of the Quaker-ish “new monasticism” not survive the 1980s?</li>
<li>Why don’t we have any younger leaders of the Quaker monasticism? Why do we need others to remind us of our own recent tradition?</li>
<li>In what ways are some Friends (and some fellow travelers) still living out the “Old New Monastic” experience, just without the hype and without the buzz?</li>
</ul>
<p>It’s entirely possible that the “new monasticism” isn’t sustainable. At the very least Friends’ experiences with it should be studied to see what happened. Is West Philly what the new monasticism looks like thirty years later? The biggest differences between now and the heyday of the Movement for a New Society is 1) the Internet’s ability to organize and stay in touch in completely different ways; and 2) the power of the major Evangelical publishing houses that are hyping the new kids.</p>
<p>I’ll be looking at myself as well. After ten years, I felt I needed a change. I’m now in the “real world”–semi suburban freestanding house, nuclear family. The old new West Philly monasticism, like the “new monasticism” seems optimized for hip twenty-something suburban kids who romanticized the gritty city. People of other demographics often fit in, but still it was never very scalable and for many not very sustainable. How do we bring these concerns out to a world where there are suburbs, families, etc?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My F/friend Raye Hodgson is taking a train from Connecticut to South Jersey next week for a visit, and locals and would-be visitors are invited to my house for some worship! Raye’s involved with Ohio Conservative and New England Friends and seems to be doing a cool sustainable agriculture project these days (which I didn’t [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My F/friend Raye Hodgson is taking a train from Connecticut to South Jersey next week for a visit, and locals and would-be visitors are invited to my house for some worship! Raye’s involved with Ohio Conservative and New England Friends and seems to be doing a <a href="http://hodgsonbiologic.com/">cool sustainable agriculture project</a> these days (which I didn’t know except for Google!)</p>
<p>It’s next Thursday, the 19th at 7:30pm in Hammonton. If you want to join but don’t have my address just <a href="mailto:martink@martinkelley.com">send me an email</a> and I’ll provide details. There’s also a <a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=140645360321">Facebook event listing</a> for this. If enough people are interested we can have more occasional Conservative/Convergent/Emergent Quakerly worship in this part of South Jersey! If you can’t make it but are intrigued by the idea, let me know and I’ll keep you in the loop. </p>
<p>UPDATE: The worship went well, about half a dozen people showed up. If you want to be alerted to any follow-up worship opportunities in the Hammonton area send me an email and I’ll add you to my list. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over on Quaker Oats Live, Cherice is fired up about taxes again and proposing a peace witness for next year: My solution: Quakers, Mennonites, Brethren, and whomever else wants to participate refuses to pay war taxes for a few years, and we suffer the consequences. I think we should campaign for a war-tax-free 2010 in [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on <a href="http://quakeroatslive.blogspot.com/2009/03/war-taxes.html">Quaker Oats Live</a>, Cherice is <a href="http://quakeroatslive.blogspot.com/2009/03/war-taxes.html">fired up about taxes again</a> and proposing a peace witness for next year:</p>
<blockquote><p>My solution: Quakers, Mennonites, Brethren, and whomever else wants to participate refuses to pay war taxes for a few years, and we suffer the consequences. I think we should campaign for a war-tax-free 2010 in all Quaker meetings and Mennonite/Brethren/etc. communities. What are they going to do–throw us all in jail? Maybe. But they can’t do that forever. No one wants to pay their taxes for a bunch of Quakers and other pacifists to sit in jail for not paying taxes. It doesn’t make sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>A commenter chimes in with a warning about Friends who were hit by heavy tax penalties a quarter century ago. But I know of someone who didn’t pay taxes for twenty years and recently volunteered the information to the Internal Revenue Service. The collectors were nonchalant, polite and sympathetic and settled for a very reasonable amount. If this friend’s experience is any guide, there’s not much drama to be had in war tax resistance. These days, <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2022:17-21;&amp;version=9;">Caesar doesn’t care much</a>.</p>
<p>What if our witness was directed not at the federal government but at our fellow Christians? We could follow Quaker founder George Fox’s example and climb the tallest tree we could find (real or metaphorical) and begin preaching the good news that war goes against the teachings of Jesus. As always, we would be respectful and charitable but we could reclaim the strong and clear voices of those who have traveled before us. If we felt the need for backup? Well, I understand there are twenty-seven or so books to the New Testament sympathetic to our cause. And I have every reason to believe that the Inward Christ is still humming our tune and burning bushes for all who have eyes to see and ears to listen. Just as John Woolman ministered with his co-religionists about the sin of slavery, maybe our job is to minister to our co-religionists about war.</p>
<p>But who <i>are</i> these co-religionist neighbors of ours? Twenty years of peace organizing and Friends organizing makes me doubt we could find any large group of “historic peace church” members to join us. We talk big and write pretty epistles, but few individuals engage in witnesses that involve any danger of real sacrifice. The way most of our established bodies <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/why_would_a_quaker_do_a_crazy_thing_like_that.php">couldn’t figure out how to respond</a> to a modern day prophetic Christian witness in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Fox_(activist)">Tom Fox’s kidnapping</a> is the norm. When the IRS threatened to put liens on Philadelphia Yearly Meeting to force resistant staffers to pay, the general secretary and clerk said all sorts of sympathetic words of anguish (which they probably even meant), then docked the employee’s pay anyway. There have been times when clear-eyed Christians didn’t mind loosing their liberty or property in service to the gospel. Early Friends called our emulation of Christ’s sacrifice the <a href="http://www.michiganquakers.org/lamb.oym.htm">Lamb’s War</a>, but even seven years of real war in the ancient land of Babylonia itself hasn’t brought back the old fire. Our meetinghouses sit quaint, with ownership deeds untouched, even as we wring our hands wondering why most remain half-empty on First Day morning.</p>
<p>But what about these emerging church kids?: all those people reading Shane Claiborne, moving to neighborhoods in need, organizing into small cells to talk late into the night about primitive Christianity? Some of them are actually putting down their candles and pretentious jargon long enough <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/oneyearbiblequakergroup">to read</a> those <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament">twenty-seven books</a>. Friends have a lot of accumulated wisdom about what it means the primitive Christian life, even if we’re pretty rusty on its actual practice. What shape would that witness take and who would join us into that unknown but familiar desert? What would our movement even be called? And does it matter?</p>
<p>—–</p>
<p>Anyone interested in thinking more on this should start saving up their loose change ($200 commuters) to come join <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com">C Wess Daniel</a>s and me this November when we lead a workshop on “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/events/new-monastics-and-convergent">The New Monastics and Convergent Friends</a>” at <a href="http://www.pendlehill.org/">Pendle Hill</a> near <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:7-13;&amp;version=31;">Philadelphia</a>. Methinks I’m already starting to blog about it.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a recent evening I met up with Gathering in Light Wess, who was in Philadelphia for a Quaker-sponsored peace conference. Over the next few hours, six of us went out for a great dinner, Wess and I tested some testimonies, and a revolving group of Friends ended up around a table in the conference’s [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a recent evening I met up with <a href="http://www.gatheringinlight.com/">Gathering in Light Wess</a>, who was in Philadelphia for a Quaker-sponsored peace conference. Over the next few hours, six of us went out for <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/kingdom-of-vegetarians-restaurant-philadelphia#hrid:11t7dYSSc9bWX8fu3g4TFA">a great dinner</a>, Wess and I <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/buffalo-billiards-philadelphia#hrid:qDYzC_5ChziAy3_hg4oUsA">tested some testimonies</a>,<br>
and a revolving group of Friends ended up around a table in the<br>
conference’s hotel lobby talking late into the night (the links are<br>
Wess’ reviews, these days you can reverse stalk him through his Yelp<br>
account). </p>
<p>Of all of the many people I spoke with, only one had any kind of<br>
featured role at the conference. Without exception my conversation<br>
partners were fascinating and insightful about the issues that had<br>
brought them to Philadelphia, yet I sensed a pervading sense of missed<br>
opportunity: hundreds of lives rearranged and thousands of air miles<br>
flown mostly to listen to others talk. I spent my long commute home<br>
wondering what it would have been like to have spent the weekend in the<br>
hotel lobby recording ten minute Youtube interviews with as many<br>
conference participants as I could. We would have ended up with a<br>
snapshot of faith-based peace organizing circa 2009.</p>
<p>Next weekend I’ll be burning up more of the ozone layer by flying to California to co-lead a workshop with Wess and <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/">Robin M</a>. (details at <a href="http://convergentfriends.org/">ConvergentFriends.org</a>,<br>
I’m sure we can squeeze more people in!) The participant list looks<br>
fabulous. I don’t know everyone but there’s at least half a dozen<br>
people coming who I would be thrilled to take workshops from. I really<br>
don’t want to spend the weekend hearing myself talk! I also know there<br>
are plenty of people who can’t come because of commitments and costs.</p>
<p>So we’re going to try some experiments–they might work, they might not. On QuakerQuaker, there’s a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/2009reclaiming">new group for the event</a> and a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/forum/topics/event-talk-2009-reclaiming-the">discussion thread</a> open to all QQ members (sign up is quick and painless). For those of you comfortable with the <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/notes/Contributor_Instructions">QQ tagging system</a>, the Delicious tag for the event is “quaker.reclaiming2009”. Robin M has proposed using <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=convergentfriends">#convergentfriends</a> as our Twitter hashtag. </p>
<p>There’s all sorts of mad things we could try (Ustream video or live<br>
blogging via Twitter, anyone?), wacky wacky stuff that would distract<br>
us from whatever message the Inward Christ might be trying to give us.<br>
But behind all this is a real questions about why and how we should<br>
gather together as Friends. As the banking system tanks, as the environment<br>
strains, as communications costs drop and we find ourselves in a <a href="http://otherexcuses.blogspot.com/2009/01/social-media-vs-recession.html">curious new economy</a>, what challenges and opportunities open up?</p>
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		<title>Check out KD’s defense of organized (Quaker) religion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s up on the sidebar and featured on QuakerQuaker, but I want to give an added boost to my friend Kevin-Douglas’ post “Why I bother with religion.” I’ve written about the Emergent Church / Quaker experiment that Kevin-Douglass is helping to organize down in Baltimore. Check out their new’ish website, http://www.setonhillfriends.org/ Here’s a snippet of [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s up on the sidebar and featured on QuakerQuaker, but I want to give an added boost to my friend Kevin-Douglas’ post “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/profiles/blogs/why-i-bother-with-religion">Why I bother with religion</a>.” I’ve <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/baltimore_emergent_church_quaker_experiment.php">written about the Emergent Church / Quaker experiment</a> that Kevin-Douglass is helping to organize down in Baltimore. Check out their new’ish website, <a href="http://www.setonhillfriends.org/">http://www.setonhillfriends.org/</a><br>
Here’s a snippet of today’s post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Organized religion is based in community. Being in a community challenges me. Simply hanging out with my friends and engaging my family isn’t enough. The risks of such an intentional community and the support available therein offer so much more than if I just do what comes easily or go along with what exists around me. I’m challenged in community. I’m held accountable. And while it could be said that I could get this out of a gay rights group, or being part of an ethical society, the truth is that in a religious community, we all seek to go much deeper than the psychological or emotional levels. We seek to understand that Mystery — God. We seek to understand that transformative and healing power that comes from that Mystery.</p></blockquote>
<p>Kevin-Douglas originally posted it to Facebook earlier today and I asked if he would sign up to QuakerQuaker and post it there. There’s a lot of great stuff that goes up on Facebook and it’s a useful tool for keeping in touch with friends, but most posts are not visible beyond your own Facebook friends list (it depends on your privacy settings). If you post something really good about Friends or belief on Facebook, seriously consider whether you might repost it somewhere more public. If you don’t have a blog handy, you can do what KD did and post it on QuakerQuaker, where every registered user has blogging capabilities (it creates a bit of a metaphysical connundrum for the QuakerQuaker editors, as it means we’ll be linking QQ posts to the QQ site, but that’s fine).</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This week I received an email from a young seeker in the Philadelphia area who found my 2005 article “Witness of Our Lost Twenty-Somethings” published in FGConnections. She’s a former youth ministries leader from a Pentecostal tradition, strongly attracted to Friends beliefs but not quite fitting in with the local meetings she’s been trying. Somewhere [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week I received an email from a young seeker in the Philadelphia area who found my 2005 article “<a href="http://www.fgcquaker.org/connect/spring05/witness_lost_twenty_somethings_kelley.htm">Witness of Our Lost Twenty-Somethings</a>” published in <i>FGConnections</i>. She’s a former youth ministries leader from a Pentecostal tradition, strongly attracted to Friends beliefs but not quite fitting in with the local meetings she’s been trying. Somewhere she found my article and asks if I have any insights. </p>
<p>The 2005 article was largely pessimistic, focused on the “committed, interesting and bold twenty-something Friends<br>
I knew ten years ago” who had left Friends and blaming “an institutional Quakerism that neglected them and<br>
its own future” but my hope paragraph was optimistic:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>There is hope… A great people might possibly be gathered from<br>
the emergent church movement and the internet is full of amazing conversations<br>
from new Friends and seekers. There are pockets in our branch of Quakerism<br>
where older Friends have continued to mentor and encourage meaningful and<br>
integrated youth leadership, and some of my peers have hung on with me. Most<br>
hopefully, there’s a whole new generation of twenty- something Friends<br>
on the scene with strong gifts that could be nurtured and harnessed. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hard to imagine that only three years ago I was an isolated FGC staffer left to pursue outreach and youth ministry work on my own time by an institution indifferent to either pursuit. Both functions have become major staff programs, but I’m no longer involved, which is probably just as well, as neither program has decided to focus on the kind of work I had hoped it might. The more things change the more they stay the same, right? The most interesting work is still largely invisible. </p>
<p>Some of this work has been taken up by the new bloggers and by some sort of alt-network that seems to be congealing around all the blogs, Twitter networks, Facebook friendships, intervisitations and IM chats. Many of us associated with <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/">QuakerQuaker.org</a> have some sort of regular correspondence or participation with the Emerging Church movement, we regularly highlight “amazing conversations” from new Friends and seekers and there’s a lot of inter-generational work going on. We’ve got a name for it in <i>Convergent Friends</i>, which reflects in part that “we” aren’t just the liberal Friends I imagined in 2005, but a wide swath of Friends from all the Quaker flavors.</p>
<p>But we end up with a problem that’s become the central one for me and a lot of others: what can we tell a new seeker who should be able to find a home in real-world Friends but doesn’t fit? I could point this week’s correspondent to meetings and churches hundreds of miles from her house, or encourage her to start a blog, or compile a list of workshops or gatherings she might attend. But none of these are really satisfactory answers.&nbsp; &nbsp;  </p>
<p><b>Elsewhere: </b></p>
<p>Gathering in Light Wess sent an email around last night about a <a href="http://www.ryanbolger.com/?p=148">book review done by his PhD advisor Ryan Bolger</a> that talks about tribe-style leadership and a new kind of church identity that uses the instant communication tools of the internet to forge a community that’s not necessarily limited to locality. Bolger’s and his research partner report that they see “<a href="http://documents.fuller.edu/news/pubs/tnn/2008_Fall/1_morphing.asp">emerging initiatives within traditional churches as the next<br>
horizon for the spread of emerging church practices in the United States</a>.” More links from Wess’ article on <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2008/10/21/emering-churches-and-denominations/">emerging churches and denominations</a>.</p>
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