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		<title>Philadelphia Yearly Meeting’s Interim Meeting: Getting a horse to drink</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This past weekend I gave a talk at the Arch Street Meetinghouse after the Interim Meeting sessions of Philadlephia Yearly Meeting. Interim Meeting is the group that meets sort-of monthly between yearly meeting business sesssions. In an earlier blog post I called it “the establishment” and I looked forward to sharing the new life of [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past weekend I gave a talk at the Arch Street Meetinghouse after the Interim Meeting sessions of Philadlephia Yearly Meeting. Interim Meeting is the group that meets sort-of monthly between yearly meeting business sesssions. In an earlier blog post I called it “the establishment” and I looked forward to sharing the new life of the blogging world and Convergent Friends with this group. I had been asked by the most excellent Stephen Dotson to talk about “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/events/finding-fellowship-between">Finding Fellowship Between Friends Thru The Internet</a>.”</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/Martin_at_PYM-20100915-154516.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">I was curious to return to Interim Meeting, a group I served on about half a decade ago. As I sat in the meeting, I kept seeing glimpses of issues that I planned to address afterwards in my talk: how to talk afresh about faith; how to publicize our activity and communicate both among ourselves and with the outside world; how to engage new and younger members in our work.</p>
<p>Turns out I didn’t get the chance. Only half a dozen or so members of Interim Meeting stuck around for my presentation. No announcement was made at the end of sessions. None of the senior staff were there and no one from the long table full of clerks, alternate clerks and alternate alternate clerks came. Eleven people were at the talk (including some who hadn’t been at Interim Meeting). The intimacy was nice but it was hardly the “take it to the estabishment” kind of event I had imagined.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/The_audience-20100915-154642.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">The talk itself went well, despite or maybe because of its intimacy. I had asked Seth H (aka Chronicler) along for spiritual support and he wrote a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2360685:BlogPost:31346&amp;commentId=2360685:Comment:31673&amp;xg_source=activity">nice review</a> on QuakerQuaker. Steve T, an old friend of mine from Central Philly days, took some pictures which I’ve included here. I videoed the event, though it will need some work to tighten it down to something anyone would want to watch online. The people who attended wanted to attend and asked great questions. It was good working with Stephen Dotson again in the planning. I would wish that more Philadelphia Friends had more interest in these issues but as individuals, all we can do is lead a horse to water. In the end, the yearly meeting is in God’s hands.</p>
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<p><em>Below are observations from Interim Meeting and how the Convergent Friends movement might address some of the issues raised. Let me stress that I offer these in love and in the hope that some honest talk might help. I’ve served on Interim Meeting and have given a lot of time toward PYM over the last twenty years. This list was forwarded by email to senior staff and I present them here for others who might be concerned about these dynamics.</em></p>
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<p><strong>GENERATIONAL FAIL: </strong></p>
<p>There were about seventy-five people in the room for Interim Meeting sessions. I was probably the third or fourth youngest. By U.S. census definitions I’m in my eighth year of middle age, so that’s really sad. That’s two whole generations that are largely missing from PYM leadership. I know I shouldn’t be surprised; it’s not a new phenomenon. <em>But if you had told me twenty years ago that I’d be able to walk into Interim Meeting in 2010 and still be among the youngest, well…</em> Well, frankly I would have uttered a choice epithet and kicked the Quaker dust from my shoes (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation/">most of my friends did</a>). I know many Friends bodies struggle with age diversity but this is particularly extreme.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: <a href="http://www.quakerads.com/publishers/quakerquaker-org">About 33% of QuakerQuaker’s audience is GenX and 22% are Millenials</a>. If Interim Meeting were as diverse as QuakerQuaker there would have been 16 YAFs (18–35 year olds) and 25 Friends 35 and 49 years of age.<em> I would have been about the 29th youngest in the room–middle aged, just where I should be! </em>QuakerQuaker has an age diversity that most East Coast Friends Meetings would die for. If you want to know the interests and passions of younger Friends, Quaker blogs are an excellent place to learn. There are some very different organizational and style differences at play (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">my post seven years ago</a>, <a href="http://lambswar.blogspot.com/2010/09/bridging-generational-divide-in.html">a post from Micah Bales this past week</a>).</p>
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<p><strong>DECISION-MAKING</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The first part of the sessions was run with what’s called a “Consent Agenda,” a legislative measure where multiple agenda items are approved en masse. It rests on the idealistic notion that all seventy-five attendees has come to sessions having read everything in the quarter-inch packet mailed to them (I’ll wait till you stop laughing). Interim Meeting lumped thirteen items together in this manner. I suspect most Friends left the meeting having forgotten what they had approved. Most educators would say you have to reinforce reading with live interaction but we bypassed all of that in the name of efficiency.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: Quaker blogs are wonderfully rich sources of discussion. Comments are often more interesting than the original posts. Many of us have written first drafts of published articles on our blogs and then polished them with feedback received in the comments. This kind of communication feedback is powerful and doesn’t take away from live meeting-time. There’s a ton of possibilities for sharing information in a meaningful way outside of meetings.</p>
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<p><strong>MINUTES OF WITNESS</strong></p>
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<p>Two “minutes” (a kind of Quaker statement/press release) were brought to sessions. Both were vetted through a lengthy process where they were approved first by monthly and then quarterly meetings before coming before Interim Meeting. A minute on Afghanistan was nine months old, a response to a troop level announcement made last December; one against Marcellus Shale drilling in Pennsylvania was undated but it’s a topic that peaked in mainstream media five months ago. I would have more appreciation of this cumbersome process if the minutes were more “seasoned” (well-written, with care taken in the discernment behind them) but there was little in either that explained how the issue connected with Quaker faith and why we were lifting it up now as concern. A senior staffer in a small group I was part of lamented how the minutes didn’t give him much guidance as to how he might explain our concern with the news media. So here we were, approving two out-of-date, hard-to-communicate statements that many IM reps probably never read.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: Blogging gives us practice in talking about spirituality. Commenters challenge us when we take rhetorical shortcuts or make assumptions or trade on stereotypes. Most Quaker bloggers would tell you they’re better writers now than when they started their blog. <em>Spiritual writing is like a muscle which needs to be exercised</em>. To be bluntly honest, two or three bloggers could have gotten onto Skype, opened a shared Google Doc and hammered out better statements in less than an hour. <em>If we’re going to be approving these kinds of thing we need to practice and increase our spiritual literacy.</em></p>
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<p><strong>THE ROLE OF COMMITTEES</strong></p>
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<p>The second part was Interim Meeting looking at itself. We broke into small groups and asking three questions: “What is the work of Interim Meeting,” “Are we satisfied with how we do this now?” and “If we were to make changes, what would they be?.” I thought to myself that the reason I ever go to events like this is to see dear Friends and to see what sparks of life are happening in the yearly meeting. As our small group went around, and as small groups shared afterwards, I realized that many of the people in the room seemed to agree: we were hungry for the all-to-brief moments where the Spirit broke into the regimented Quaker process.</p>
<p>One startling testimonial came from a member of the outreach committee. She explained that her committee, like many in PYM, is an administrative one that’s not supposed to do any outreach itself–it’s all supposed to stay very “meta.” They recently decided to have a picnic with no business scheduled and there found themselves “going rogue” and talking about outreach. <em>Her spirit rose and voice quickened as she told us how they spent hours dreaming up outreach projects. Of course the outreach committee wants to do outreach!</em> And with state PYM is in, can we really have a dozen people sequestered away talking about talking about outreach. <em>Shouldn’t we declare “All hands on deck!” and start doing work?</em> It would have been time well spent to let her share their ideas for the next thirty minutes but of course we had to keep moving. She finished quickly and the excitement leaked back out of the room.</p>
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<p><strong>FOLLOW-UP THOUGHTS AND THE FUTURE OF THE YEARLY MEETING</strong></p>
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<p>Now I need to stress some things. I had some great one-on-one conversations in the breaks. A lot of people were very nice to me and gave me hugs and asked about family. These are a committed, hopeful group of people. There was a lot of faith in that room! People work hard and serve faithfully. But it feels like we’re trapped by the system we ourselves created. I wanted to share the excitement and directness of the Quaker blogging world. I wanted to share the robustness of communication techniques we’re using and the power of distributed publishing. I wanted to share the new spirit of ecumenticalism and cross-branch work that’s happening.</p>
<p>I’ve been visiting local Friends Meetings that have half the attendance they did ten years ago. Some have trouble breaking into the double-digits for Sunday morning worship and I’m often the youngest in the room, bringing the only small kids. I know there are a handful of thriving meetings, but I’m worried that most are going to have close their doors in the next ten to twenty years.</p>
<p>I had hoped to show how new communication structures, the rise of Convergent Friends and the seekers of the Emerging Church movement could signal new possibilities for Philadelphia Yearly Meeting. Toward the end of Interim Meeting, some Friends bemoaned our lack of resources and clerk Thomas Swain reminded them that with God there is no limitation and nothing is impossible. Some of the things I’m seeing online are the impossible come to life. Look at QuakerQuaker: an unstaffed online magazine running off of a $50/month budget and getting 10,000 visits a month. It’s not anything I’ve done, but this community that God has brought together and the technological infrastructure that has allowed us to coordinate so easily. It’s far from the only neat project out there and there are a lot more on the drawing boad. Some yearly meetings are engaging with these new possibilites. But mine apparently can’t even stay around for a talk.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting reading today about how our Quaker structures can choke the Spirit and hem in our communities. Johan M is no stranger to Quaker institutions, but in “Clerk Please” he writes: But who will see and proclaim these things to new audiences if we are so busy trying to sort out our structures, nomination processes, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading today about how our Quaker structures can choke the Spirit and hem in our communities. Johan M is no stranger to Quaker institutions, but in “<a href="http://johanpdx.blogspot.com/2008/04/clerk-please.html">Clerk Please</a>” he writes:</p>
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<p>But who will see and proclaim these things to new audiences if we are so busy trying to sort out our structures, nomination processes, and interpersonal animosities that we don’t take the time to discern and honor leadings?</p>
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<p>Susanne K echos some of these themes in her latest post, “<a href="http://quakersusanne.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/quakerism-and-structure/">Quakerism and Structure</a>”:</p>
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<p>One of the key parts of George Fox’s revelation was that religious structures can kill the free movement of the Spirit… My Ffriend R has advocated the practice of disbanding the Religious Society of Friends every 50 years. He believes that the spark of the initial vision and passion of religious groups only survives for about 50 years before developing structures start to choke the movement of the Spirit.</p>
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<p>It’s been about eighteen months since I was sidelined from the professional Quaker world (I work for some Quakers now, but on a contract basis and the relationship is much different). A year or two before this, my monthly meeting melted down and more or less devolved into a worship group and while&nbsp;I’ve found a more active meeting to attend, it’s not particularly close and I haven’t joined.</p>
<p>The result of these two changes is that I haven’t sat in a staff meeting for over a year; I don’t attend business meetings; I don’t belong to any committees; I don’t represent any group at conferences. After years of being what <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/twenty_first_century_traveling_ministry_of_uberquakers_selfish_friends_and_the_search_for_unity.php">Evan Welkin called an uberQuaker</a>, I’m an uninvolved slacker. Bad Martin, right?</p>
<p>Except I’m not uninvolved of course. I feel I’m doing as much now to help people find and grow into Quakerism than I did when I was paid to do this. I don’t spend much time with that 2% skim of Quaker elite who attend all the same conferences and appoint each other to all the same committees, but then catering to their needs was pretty high maintenance and was never something I thought of as the real mission.</p>
<p>Suzanne talks about the “Sabbatical Year” meme, and of course lots of electrons fly about the blogosphere about the possibilities of the Emerging Church movement. There’s a hunger for a different way of being a Friend. I know one Quaker who threatens to burn down the famous meetinghouse he worships in because he feels that the building has become an empty icon, a weight of bricks upon the Spirit (I’ll leave him anonymous in case something mysterious happens to the meetinghouse tonight!). How tragic would it be, really, if some of institutional baggage was laid down and we had to find other ways to confirm and support one another’s ministries?</p>
<p>I love teaching Quakerism, I love helping Quakers use the internet for outreach and I love reaching out to potential Friends with my writing. I’m doing all that without committees or staff meetings. No budgets to fight over, no mission statements to write.</p>
<p>Half a decade ago now I wrote about the “lost Quaker generation,” active and visionary Gen X Friends who seemed to be dropping out in droves. We’re all keeping in better touch now via Facebook but I haven’t noticed&nbsp;much jumping back into the fray.&nbsp;What I <em>have </em>noticed is a phenomenon where Friends half a generation older are taking on Quaker responsibilities only to drop away from active meeting involvement when their terms ended.&nbsp;</p>
<p>If we could pull together all of the dropouts together and start meetings that focused on worship, religious education&nbsp;and deep-community activities, I think we’d&nbsp;see something interesting. I envy those with less-musty, Gen‑X heavy meetings nearby (<a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2008/04/where-do-you-see-signs-of-quaker.html">Robin M showcased her meeting recently</a>). And don’t get me wrong:&nbsp;I also love the old Quaker ideal of the strong local Quaker community and the bonds of the community on the individual,&nbsp;etc., etc. But I don’t see meetings&nbsp;like that anywhere nearby and the only clear leading I really have is to continue this “freelance” teaching, writing and organizing. It’s not the situation I want but it’s the situation I have and at this point I have to just trust the leadings as they come step by step and have faith they’re going somewhere. Boy though, I wish I knew where all this was heading sometimes!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[There’s an interesting discussion in the comments from my last post about “Convergent Friends and Ohio Conservatives” and one of the more interesting comes from a commenter named Diane. My reply to her got longer and longer and filled with more and more links till it makes more sense to make it its own post. [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s an interesting discussion in the comments from my last post about “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/what_convergence_means_to_ohio/">Convergent Friends and Ohio Conservatives</a>” and one of the more interesting comes from a commenter named Diane. My reply to her got longer and longer and filled with more and more links till it makes more sense to make it its own post. First, Diane’s question:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t know if I’m “convergent,” (probably not) but I have been involved with the emerging church for several years and with Quakerism for a decade. I also am aware of the house church movement, but my experience of it is that is is very tangentially related to Quakerism. I really, really hope and pray that Christian revival is coming to liberal Friends, but personally I have not seen that phenomenom. Where do you see it most? Do you see it more as commitment to Christ or as more people being Christ curious, to use Robin’s phrase?</p></blockquote>
<p>As I wrote recently I think convergence is more of a <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/convergent_friends_a_long_definition.php">trend than an identity</a> and I’m not sure whether it makes sense to fuss about who’s convergent or not. As with any question involving liberal Friends, whether there’s “Christian revival” going on depends on what what you mean by the term. I think more liberal Friends have become comfortable <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/conservative_liberal_quakers_and_not_becoming_a_leastcommondenominator_sentimental_faith.php">labeling themselves as Christ curious</a>; it has become more acceptable to identify as Christian than it was a decade or two ago; a significant number of younger Friends are <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/turning_workshops_into_worship.php">very receptive</a> to Christian messages, the Bible and traditional Quaker testimonies than they were.</p>
<p>These are individual responses, however. Turning to collective Quaker bodies there are few if any <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/hey_who_am_i_to_decide_anything.php">beliefs or practices left that liberal Friends wouldn’t allow</a> under the Quaker banner if they came wrapped in Quakerese from a well-connected Friend; the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/the_quaker_peace_testimony_living_in_the_power_reclaiming_the_source.php">social testimonies stand in</a> as the unifying agent; it’s still considered an argument stopper to say that any proffered definition would exclude someone.</p>
<p>I’d argue that liberal Quakerism is becoming ever more liberal (and less distinctively Quaker) at the same time that many of those in influence are becoming more Christian. It’s a very proscribed Christianity: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/for_other_uses_see_light_disambiguation.php">coded, tentative and most of all individualistic</a>. It’s okay for a liberal Friend to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/were_all_ranters_now_on_liberal_friends_and_becoming_a_society_of_finders.php">believe whatever they want to believe as long as they don’t believe too much</a>. Whether the quiet influence of the rising generation of conservative-friendly leadership is enough to hold a Quaker center in the centrifuge that is liberal Quakerism is the $60,000 question. I think the leadership has an <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/how_insiders_and_seekers_use_the_quaker_net.php">inflated sense of its own influence</a> but I’m watching the experiment. I wish it well but I’m skeptical and worry that it’s built on sand.</p>
<p>Some of the Christ-curious liberal Friends are forming small worship groups and some of these are seeking out recognition from Conservative bodies. It’s an achingly small movement but it shows a desire to be corporately Quaker and not just individualistically Quaker. With the internet traditional Quaker viewpoints are only a Google search away; sites like Bill Samuel’s “Quakerinfo.com”:www.quakerinfo.com and blogs like <a href="http://journal.earthwitness.org/the-quaker-magpie-journal/">Marshall Massey’s</a> are breaking down stereotypes and doing a lot of invaluable educating (and I could name a lot more). It’s possible to imagine all this cooking down to a third wave of traditionalist renewal. Ohio Yearly Meeting-led initiatives like the Christian Friends Conference and All Conservative Gatherings are steps in the right direction but any real change is going to have to pull together multiple trends, one of which might or might not be Convergence.</p>
<p>Our role in this future is not to be strategists playing Quaker politics but servants ready to lay down our identities and preconceptions to follow the promptings of the Inward Christ into whatever territory we’re called to:</p>
<blockquote><p>From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2016:21-28;&amp;version=9">Matthew 16:21–28</a>.</p></blockquote>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today’s New York Times has an article called “Hip New Churches Pray to a Different Drummer” about postmodern and emergent churches. The article has some good observations and interviews many of the right people, but the presentation is skewed: there on the front cover of the print edition are some New Agey hipsters holding their [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s <em>New York Times</em> has an article called “<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/18/national/18WORS.html">Hip New Churches Pray to a Different Drummer</a>” about postmodern and emergent churches. The article has some good observations and interviews many of the right people, but the presentation is skewed: there on the front cover of the print edition are some New Agey hipsters holding their ears and hearts in some sort of mock-Medieval prayer, sitting in big chairs over the headline about the “different drummer.” Egads.</p>
<p>The photo reminds me of my <em>New York Times</em> moment, when the photographer insisted on a few shots of me holding a guitar, which made it onto the “CyberTimes” cover, but the paragraph describing the movement is a good, concise one:</p>
<blockquote><p>Called “emerging” or “postmodern” churches, they are diverse in theology and method, linked loosely by Internet sites, Web logs, conferences and a growing stack of hip-looking paperbacks. Some religious historians believe the churches represent the next wave of evangelical worship, after the boom in megachurches in the 1980’s and 1990’s.</p></blockquote>
<p>Still, much of the article talks about the superficial stuff, what Jordan Cooper calls the “candles and coffee” superficiality of some of a form-only emergent church style. There certainly is a lot of chaff with the wheat. Julie read the article and was really turned off to the dumb side of the emergent church:</p>
<blockquote><p>Honey, I just can’t get with it. I empathize somewhat, but I’m a traditionalist, so I can’t say I don’t take just as much offense at “borrowing” Catholic and Orthodox spiritual practices as I do at the importing of the sweatlodge ripped off from Native Americans. I’m not saying that all Emerging Church groups do rip off, they’re trying to find something legitimate, I can see that. It’s just that they are settling for part of the truth without looking at the whole picture. Lectio Divina is part of a larger Catholic theology and really shouldn’t be divorced from it, etc. I empathize with the unchurched and the unfriendliness of traditional churches to the completely unchurched. I don’t know what the answer is, but this movement just strikes me as bizarre. Of course, again, I’m coming from a traditional Catholic perspective here, so “church” to me means something utterly different than to many, especially the unchurched and evangelicals, for example, who see worship as more open and dynamic and involving the heart, not so much about form. I guess in the end, it’s just that some of this Emerging Church stuff is just too “cool.” I’m glad that it puts some people in touch with God, and that’s a good thing. But church should never be too cool or too comfy or too sentimental. It should challenge too. What I’d like to hear in one of these articles is how these new forms and this new movement actually challenge people to commit to Christ and to change their lives. Hmmm.</p></blockquote>
<p>So true, so true. What I’ve wondered is whether traditional Quakerism has a threshing function to offer the emergent-church seekers: we have the intimate meetings (partly by design, partly because our meetings are half-empty), the language of the direct experience with God, the warning against superficiality. I can hear Julie laughing at me saying this, as Friends have largely lost the ability to challenge or articulate our faith, which is the other half of the equation. But I’d like to believe we’re due for some generational renewals ourselves, which might bring us to the right place at the right time to engage with the emergent churchers and once more gather a new people.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2004 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my gosh, TheOoze has an amazing article on called “Orthodox Twenty-Somethings” (a review of “The New Faithful” and “The Younger Evangelicals”, a great book I’ve recommended. Read this article if you want to understand why Julie’s at a traditional Catholic Church and why I’m plain dressing. This is a bona fide phenomenon, folks. None [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh, TheOoze has an amazing article on called “Orthodox Twenty-Somethings”  (a review of “The New Faithful” and “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">The Younger Evangelicals</a>”, a great book I’ve recommended. Read this article if you want to understand why Julie’s at a traditional Catholic Church and why I’m <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/my_experiments_with_plainness.php">plain dressing</a>. This is a bona fide phenomenon, folks.</p>
<blockquote><p>None of this is supposed to be happening because it’s not the project for which two generations of Protestant and Catholic clergy have worked… The push for relativist moral teaching, “simplified” worship, interchangeable sex roles, and an utter separation of private belief from political expression has come from the pulpit as readily as it has been demanded by pseudo-intellectual elites. But against all odds, portions of a modern American society, which groans to find itself secularist, is returning in a quiet revolution to the fundamental truths of the Christian religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, no one should miss Melynda Huskey’s wonderful rant in the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/beyond_the_macguffins_sheerans_beyond_majority_rule.php#c154">comments of my “Beyond Majority Rule” review</a>. Warning: it skewers a beloved Quaker institution!</p>
<blockquote><p>Or maybe it was just the general whiff of the tomb–a really old tomb, all scent of decay long gone, and nothing left but dust and dead air. No Quakers here, pal. No George Fox rebuking priests from the next aisle. No Isaac Pennington seizing the moment of the Restoration to make Quakers as unpopular with the King and Court as they had been with the Protector and the Commonwealth. No Mary Dyer ready to swing off the gallows and into Glory for the sake of Light.</p></blockquote>
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