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		<title>Friends and theology and geek pick-up hotspots</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wess Daniels posts about Quaker theology on his blog. I responded there but got to thinking of Swarthmore professor Jerry Frost’s 2000 Gathering talk about FGC Quakerism. Academic, theologically-minded Friends helped forge liberal Quakerism but their influenced wained after that first generation. Here’s a snippet: “[T]he first generations of English and America Quaker liberals like [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wess Daniels posts about <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/06/03/an-apologetic-for-a-quaker-theology-do-we-need-it-or-want-it">Quaker theology on his blog</a>. I responded there but got to thinking of Swarthmore professor Jerry Frost’s 2000 Gathering <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20000817022309/http://www.fgcquaker.org/library/history/frost1.html">talk about FGC Quakerism</a>. Academic, theologically-minded Friends helped forge liberal Quakerism but their influenced wained after that first generation. Here’s a snippet:</p>
<blockquote><p>“[T]he first generations of English and America Quaker liberals like Jones and Cadbury were all birthright and they wrote books as well as pamphlets. Before unification, PYM Orthodox and the other Orthodox meetings produced philosophers, theologians, and Bible scholars, but now the combined yearly meetings in FGC produce weighty Friends, social activists, and earnest seekers.”<br>
…<br>
“The liberals who created the FGC had a thirst for knowledge, for linking the best in religion with the best in science, for drawing upon both to make ethical judgments. Today by becoming anti-intellectual in religion when we are well-educated we have jettisoned the impulse that created FGC, reunited yearly meetings, redefined our role in wider society, and created the modern peace testimony. The kinds of energy we now devote to meditation techniques and inner spirituality needs to be spent on philosophy, science, and Christian religion.”</p></blockquote>
<p>This talk was hugely influential to my wife Julie and myself. We had just met two days before and while I had developed an instant crush, Frost’s talk was the first time we sat next to one another. I realized that this might become something serious when we both laughed out loud at Jerry’s wry asides and theology jokes. We ended up walking around the campus late into the early hours talking talking talking.</p>
<p>But the talk wasn’t just the religion geek equivalent of a pick-up bar. We both responded to Frost’s call for a new generation of serious Quaker thinkers. Julie enrolled in a Religion PhD program, studying Quaker theology under Frost himself for a semester. I dove into historians like Thomas Hamm and modern thinkers like Lloyd Lee Wilson as a way to understand and articulate the implicit theology of “FGC Friends” and took independent initiatives to fill the gaps in FGC services, taking leadership in young adult program and co-leading workshops and interest groups.</p>
<p>Things didn’t turn out as we expected. I hesitate speaking for Julie but I think it’s fair enough to say that she came to the conclusion that Friends ideals and practices were unbridgable and she left Friends. I’ve documented my own setbacks and right now I’m pretty detached from formal Quaker bodies.</p>
<p>Maybe enough time hasn’t gone by yet. I’ve heard that the person sitting on Julie’s other side for that talk is now studying theology up in New England; another Friend who I suspect was nearby just started at Earlham School of Religion. I’ve called this <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/the_lost_quaker_generation.php">the Lost Quaker Generation</a> but at least some of its members have just been lying low. It’s hard to know whether any of these historically-informed Friends will ever help shape FGC popular culture in the way that Quaker academia influenced liberal Friends did before the 1970s.</p>
<p>Rereading Frost’s speech this afternoon it’s clear to see it as an important inspiration for <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org">QuakerQuaker</a>. Parts of it act well as a good liberal Quaker vision for what the blogosphere has since taken to calling convergent Friends. I hope more people will stumble on Frost’s speech and be inspired, though I hope they will be careful not to tie this vision too closely with any existing institution and to remember the true source of that <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Mat&amp;chapter=6&amp;verse=11&amp;version=kjv#11">daily bread</a>. Here’s a few more inspirational lines from Jerry:</p>
<blockquote><p>We should remember that theology can provide a foundation for unity. We ought to be smart enough to realize that any formulation of what we believe or linking faith to modern thought is a secondary activity; to paraphrase Robert Barclay, words are description of the fountain and not the stream of living water. Those who created the FGC and reunited meetings knew the possibilities and dangers of theology, but they had a confidence that truth increased possibilities.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m pleased to announce that my latest freelance project has just launched: BetsyCazden.com. There’s nothing particularly revolutionary about the technology behind the site or its design, but the Quaker geek in me is so happy to see it. Long-term readers will remember my excited post Fellowship Model of Liberal Quakers, written after reading Betsy’s Beacon [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m pleased to announce that my latest freelance project has just launched: <a href="http://www.betsycazden.com">BetsyCazden.com</a>. There’s nothing particularly revolutionary about the technology behind the site or its design, but the Quaker geek in me is so happy to see it. Long-term readers will remember my excited post <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/fellowship_model_of_liberal_quakers.php">Fellowship Model of Liberal Quakers</a>, written after reading Betsy’s Beacon Hill Friends pamphlet <a href="http://www.bhfh.org/Bhfh-PubDesc.html#FCA">Fellowships, Conferences, and Associations</a>. Betsy is one of the small number of Quaker historians willing to take on contemporary history and her observations can be quite insightful. I hope she’ll find an even wider audience with this site and the blog that she plans to add soon.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a quick note to everyone that I haven’t posted more lately. It’s a busy time of the year. I’ve had my hands full keeping up with articles and links to the “Christian Peacemakers”:/quaker/cpt. I’ve also been doing some freelance sites. One is launched: “Quakersong.org”:www.quakersong.org, the new online home of Annie Patterson and Peter Blood [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note to everyone that I haven’t posted more lately. It’s a busy time of the year. I’ve had my hands full keeping up with articles and links to the “Christian Peacemakers”:/quaker/cpt.<br>
I’ve also been doing some freelance sites. One is launched: “Quakersong.org”:www.quakersong.org, the new online home of Annie Patterson and Peter Blood of _Rise Up Singing_ fame. It’s just the start to what should soon be an interesting site.<br>
Geek-wise I’ve been interested in the Web 2.0 stuff (see “this Best Of list of sites”:http://web2.wsj2.com/the_best_web_20_software_of_2005.htm, link courtesy  “C Wess Daniels”:http://gatheringinlight.blogspot.com/). I’ve talked about some of this “back in June”:http://www.nonviolence.org/martink/i_dont_have_anything_to_say_either.php but it’s getting more exciting. In the Fall I was asked to submit a proposal for redoing the website of a Quaker conference center near Philadelphia and it was all Web 2.0‑centric–maybe too much so as I didn’t get the job! I’ll post an edited version of the proposal soon for the geeks out there. Some of the new tech stuff will undergird a fabulous new “Quakerfinder.org”:www.quakerfinder.org feature that will allow isolated Friends to connect to form new worship groups (to launch soon) and even more is behind the dreams of a new “Quakerbooks.org”:www.quakerbooks.org site.<br>
<img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerbooks.org/get/bb/img/small/1-888305-38-x.jpg?w=640" align="left">In the meantime, I encourage everyone to order “On Living with a Concern for Gospel Ministry”:http://www.quakerbooks.org/get/1–888305-38‑x, the new book by New England Yearly Meeting’s Brian Drayton (it arrived from the printers yesterday). It’s being billed as a modern day version of “A Description of the Qualifications” and if it lives up the hype it should be an important book for the stirrings of deepening faithfulness we’ve been seeing among Quakers lately. While you’re waiting for the book to arrive in your mailbox, check out  Brooklyn Rich’s “Testing Leadings”:http://brooklynquaker.blogspot.com/2005/12/testing-leadings-part‑1.html post.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was given permission to pass along this data from the FGC-sponsored Youth Ministry Consultation that took place Third Month. A number of goals and projects had been brainstormed beforehand. The thirty-or-so participants at the Consultation were each given ten stars, which they were asked to put next to the projects they thought should be [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given permission to pass along this data from the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/its_my_language_now_thinking_a/">FGC-sponsored Youth Ministry Consultation</a> that took place Third Month. A number of goals and projects had been brainstormed beforehand. The thirty-or-so participants at the Consultation were each given ten stars, which they were asked to put next to the projects they thought should be pursued. Every star acted as a vote that there was one person interested in that topic. The stars were coded to indicate the age range of the voter: High-Schooler, Adult Young Friend (18–37 years old) and older Friends.</p>
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<td><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: xx-small;">One of the “stars” charts at the consultation</span></td>
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<p>Being the information design geek, I converted the resultant votes to into qualities and colors and put them into a chart showing interest level. Projects that received no votes from a particular age range are labeled “none,” for no interest; 2–3 stars is “weak” interest and so forth, up to “HOT” which are projects which received over 7 stars from an age group.</p>
<p>As an example, take “develop spirituality.” Seven adult young Friends (aged 18–37) put a star down for this, indicating they thought it was something FGC should promote, hence “strong” (bright red) interest from this age group. No Friend over forty used one of their stars to indicate interest in this work, indicating that none of them thought FGC should be promoting spiritual development. Here are the results:</p>
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<td align="center">High-School<br>
Voters</td>
<td align="center">YAF<br>
Voters</td>
<td align="center">Older Adult<br>
Voters</td>
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<h3>Expecially for Adult Young Friends</h3>
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<td width="45%">Community</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Develop spirituality</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Outreach &amp; how to explain our faith</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Critical mass at MM, QM, YM</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
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<td>Mentoring by older Friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Mentoring to younger Friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Mentoring to older Friends:</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Help with transitions</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">*HOT*</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Advertising programs</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>Suggestions:</strong></td>
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<td>Traveling Ministries for AYF</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Groups throughout the year for support</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Support for AYF groups at the YM levels</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Database to help isolated friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>Clearness/discernment process:</strong></td>
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<td>For HS to College</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For work transitions</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For relationships</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For parenthood</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td colspan="4">Intergenerational Spiritual Conversations</td>
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<td>About Vital Friends Issues</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
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<td>Vision of Quakerism in 50 years</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Financial support for AYF</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">*HOT*</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
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<td>Retreats for youth workers</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Materials specifically designed for AYF,</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>General Questions:</strong></td>
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<td>How do we handle the broad age span?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>How do we tap the energy and passion of this group MMs, YMs &amp; FGC?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
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<td>How do we meet the needs without separating AYF from larger community?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>How do we sustain community when we only meet once a year?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td colspan="4">
<h3>Especially for High Schoolers</h3>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>Needs:</strong></td>
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<td>Adults who are better prepared to work with them…</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
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<td>FAPï¿½s that have self confidence</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Help with discernment process around college</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Help with disc: C‑O</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
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<td>Help with discernment around life choices</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Discernment questions: #3, #4, &amp; #5:</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
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<td>Building community</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
</tr>
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<td>Networking</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
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<td>Bible study, RE curriculum</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Training how one person can have impact</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
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<td>Training on how to develop group dialogs</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Help to get more teens involved</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Programming help</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Leadership Development</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td></td>
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<td><strong>Suggestions:</strong></td>
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<td>Youth newsletter</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Email forum</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Email data base</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
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<td>Event b’ween Young Quakes and Gathering</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Youth exchange</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
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<td>Programs to facilitate rites of passage</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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</table>
<p><strong>Things Younger Friends wanted more than Older Friends:<br>
</strong>In order by AYF popularity:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>MENTORSHIP: </strong>The AYFs really want cross-generational mentoring relationships. When the questions were first posed, there only “mentoring by older Friends” and “mentoring to younger Friends.” Check the math and you’ll see that’s the same question (whoever put the questions together forgot that the Quaker understanding of eldership is not necessarily a function of age, hmm). I grabbed a pencil and added “mentoring <em>to</em> older Friends” and it was instantly popular. Even though the mentorship issue was spread over three questions, AYF’s voted “strongly” for each of them, showing terrific popular support. Almost no over-40 Friend voted for this. This is not something that can be forced onto disinterested older Friends, which means I think we young-in’s are going to have to rely on one another for mentorship.</li>
<li><strong>SUPPORT FOR AYF CONFERNCES:</strong> Younger Friends want to spend more time together. Note should be made that the voters were Friends attending a conference and that we were a selected and self-selected group who presumably like to attend conferences. Still, this is popular.</li>
<li><strong>TALKING ABOUT OUR FAITH: </strong>It’s sad that only two older Friends thought explaining the faith was worthwhile. At the same time it’s encouraging that 13 AYFs wanted this. It’s very clear that younger Friends aren’t as afraid of talking about serious faith issues as the Baby Boomers (it’s nice to see some of my essays confirmed!).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Things Older Friends wanted more than Younger Friends:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>TAPPING THE YOUTH: </strong>There was what I thought was a semi-obnoxious question about how to “tap the energy and passion” of younger Friends. This is very close to the all-too-common generational mindset that sees “values young people as a resource” (as a ad in heavy-rotation at NPR proclaims). We are not a <em>resource</em> for <em>extraction</em>. Young people are too often seen merely as a source of cheap labor for projects initiated, designed and run by older Friends; they are wanted as passive audience members for older Friends’ pontificating lectures; they are endlessly proclaimed a far-off “future” of Friends rather than the very much here-and-now present of Friends.While older Friends at the consultation felt strongly that young people should be tapped, Adult Young Friends had lukewarm interest in being tapped and high school Friends showed no interest whatsoever. While not all older Friends think of young Friends as “resources,” it’s a common-enough theme that we need to flag it as a part of the generational gap. I suspect that power issues will surface when Quaker institutions try to pull together projects that “tap” youth: twenty-something Friends are going to want more involvement in the design and operation of these projects than older Friends will be willing to give.Similarly, older Friends seem to be more interested that younger Friends attain “critical mass” at Quaker institutions like monthly, quarterly and yearly meetings. The phrasing of the question is a little ambiguous and I see two likely explanations. One is that younger Friends don’t feel they <em>need</em> critical mass to be involved in Quaker institutions and want integrated intergenerational participation rather than “AYF ghettos.” The other possibility (the scarier one) is that younger Friends simply aren’t as committed to Quaker institutions. I suspect the generational differences in responses are the result of both these factors, plus others perhaps.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Things no one particularly cared about:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>No one wants materials specifically designed for AYF. No one wants advertising programs. No one wants a database to help isolated Friends.</li>
<li>An AYF traveling ministries was lukewarm, 4 YAF stars, 3 over-40. This surprises me.</li>
<li>Any other patterns that should be lifted up?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Disclaimer</strong><br>
I should note that this was <em>not</em> a scientific survey. Though the organizers of the Consultation tried hard and the participants were surprisingly diverse for an collection like this, they weren’t representative. There were only four high school participants and I didn’t adjust their votes: “lukewarm” support from them should really be relabled “strong” support.</p>
<p>While this is a small sample size, this is one of the few recent surveys of it type in FGC Quakerism and it bears close study. It confirms a lot of what I’ve been saying all these years (yea!, I’m not crazy) and echoes what I hear a lot of high school and twenty-something Friends talking about. Take it for what its worth!</p>
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<p><strong>Related:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>I first wrote about the Youth Ministries Consulation in “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/03/its_my_language_now_thinking_a/">It’s My Language Now</a>”</li>
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