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		<title>Opening Doors and Moving on Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Friends General Conference has announced that Barry Crossno will be their new incoming General Secretary. Old time bloggers will remember him as the blogger behind The Quaker Dharma. FGC’s just published an interview with him and one of the questions is about his blogging past. Here’s part of the answer: Blogging among Friends is very [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends General Conference has announced that Barry Crossno will be their new incoming General Secretary. Old time bloggers will remember him as the blogger behind <a href="http://thequakerdharma.blogspot.com/">The Quaker Dharma</a>. FGC’s just published an interview with him and<a href="http://fgcquaker.org/an-interview-with-new-general-secretary-2"> one of the questions is about his blogging past.</a> Here’s part of the answer:</p>
<blockquote><p>Blogging among Friends is very important.&nbsp; There are not a lot of Quakers.&nbsp; We’re spread out across the world.&nbsp; Blogging opens up dialogues that just wouldn’t happen otherwise.&nbsp; While I laid down my blog, “The Quaker Dharma,” a few years ago, and my thinking on some issues has evolved since then, I’m clear that blogging is what allowed me to give voice to my call.&nbsp; It helped open some of the doors that led me to work for Pendle Hill and, now by extension, FGC.&nbsp; A lot of cutting edge Quaker thought is being shared through blogs.</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought it might be useful to fill in a little bit of this story. If you go reading through the back comments on Barry’s blog you’ll see it’s a time machine into the early Quaker blogging community. I first posted about his blog in February of 2005 with <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/02/quaker_dharma_let_the_light_sh/">Quaker Dharma: Let the Light Shine</a> and I highlighted him regularly (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/03/spotted_on_the_net/">March</a>, <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/04/dont_blog_about_quakerism_mont/">April</a>, <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/06/aggregating_our_webs/">June</a>) until the proto-QuakerQuaker “Blog Watch” started running. There I <a href="http://www.delicious.com/search?p=dharma&amp;chk=&amp;context=userposts|martin_kelley&amp;fr=del_icio_us&amp;lc=0">featured him</a> twice that June and twice more in August, the most active period of his blogging.</p>
<p>It’s nostalgic to look through the commenters: Joe G., Peterson Toscano, Mitchell Santine Gould, Dave Carl, Barbara Q, Robin M, Brandice (Quaker Monkey), Eric Muhr, Nancy A… There were some good discussions. Barry’s most exuberant post was&nbsp;<a href="http://thequakerdharma.blogspot.com/2005/09/lets-begin.html">Let’s Begin</a>, and LizOpp and I especially labored with him to ground what was a very clear and obvious leading by hooking up with other Friends locally and nationally who were interested in these efforts. I offered my help in hooking him up with FGC &nbsp;and he wrote back “If you know people at other Quaker organizations that you wish me to speak to and coordinate with or possibly work for, I will.”</p>
<p>And that’s what I did. My supervisor, FGC Development head Michael Wajda, was planning a trip to Texas and I started talking up Barry Crossno. I had a hunch they’d like each other. I told Michael that Barry had a lot of experience and a very clear leading but needed to spend some time growing as a Quaker–an incubation period, if you will, among grounded Friends. In the <a href="http://fgcquaker.org/an-interview-with-new-general-secretary">first part of the FGC interview</a> he movingly talks about the grounding his time at Pendle Hill has given him.</p>
<p>In October 2006 he announced <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20070703165030/http://thequakerdharma.blogspot.com/2006/10/thank-you.html">he was closing a blog</a> that had become largely dormant. It’s worth quoting that first formal goodbye:</p>
<blockquote><p>I want to thank those of you who chose to actively participate. I learned a lot through our exchanges and I think there were many people who benefited from many of the posts you left. On a purely personal note, I learned that it’s good to temper my need to GO DO NOW. Some of you really helped mentor me concerning effectively listening to guidance and helping me understand that acting locally may be better than trying to take on the whole world at once.</p>
<p>I also want to share that I met some people and made contacts through this process that have opened tremendous doors for me and my ability to put myself in service to others. For this I am deeply grateful. I feel sure that some of these ties will live on past the closing of the Quaker Dharma.</p></blockquote>
<p>Those of you familiar with pieces like&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation/">The Lost Quaker Generation</a> and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2004/01/passing_the_faith_planet_of_th/">Passing the Faith, Planet of the Quakers Style</a> know I’ve long been worried that we’ve not doing a good job identifying, supporting and retaining visionary new Friends. Around 2004 I stopped complaining (mostly) and just started looking for others who also held this concern. The online organizing has spilled over into real world conferences and workshops and is much bigger than one website or small group. Now we see “graduates” of this network starting to take on real-world responsibilities.</p>
<p>Barry’s a bright guy with a strong leading and a healthy ambition. He would have certainly made something of himself without the blogs and the “doors” opened up by myself and others. But it would have certainly taken him longer to crack the Philadelphia scene and I think it very likely that FGC would have announced a different General Secretary this week if it weren’t for the blogs.</p>
<p>QuakerQuaker almost certainly has more future General Secretaries in its membership rolls. But it would be a shame to focus on that or to imply that the pinnacle of a Quaker leading is moving to Philadelphia. Many parts of the Quaker world are already too enthralled by it’s staff lists. What we need is to extend a culture of everyday Friends ready to boldly exclaim the Good News–to love God and their neighbor and to leap with joy by the presence of the Inward Christ. Friends’ culture shouldn’t focus on staffing, flashy programs or fundraising hype. &nbsp;At the end of the day, spiritual outreach is a one-on-one activity. It’s people spending the time to find one another, share their spiritual journey and share opportunities to grow in their faith.</p>
<p>QuakerQuaker has evolved a lot since 2005. It now has a team of editors, discussion boards, Facebook and Twitter streams, and the site itself reaches over 100,000 readers a year. But it’s still about finding each other and encouraging each other.&nbsp;I think we’ve proven that these overlapping, distributed, largely-unfunded online initiatives can play a critical outreach role for the Society of Friends. What would it look like for the “old style” Quaker organizations to start supporting independent Quaker social media? And how could our networks reinvigorate cash-strapped Quaker organizations with fresh faces and new models of communication? Those are questions for another post.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strangely enough, the Philadelphia Inquirer has published a front-page article on leadership in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting, “Friends frustrate some of their flock, Quakers bogged down by process, two leaders say”. To me it comes off as an extended whine from the former PhYM General Secretary Thomas Jeavons. His critiques around Philadelphia Quaker culture are well-made [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strangely enough, the Philadelphia Inquirer has published a front-page article on leadership in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting, “<a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/15328669.htm">Friends frustrate some of their flock, Quakers bogged down by process, two leaders say</a>”. To me it comes off as an extended whine from the former PhYM General Secretary Thomas Jeavons. His critiques around Philadelphia Quaker culture are well-made (and well known among those who have seen his much-forwarded emails) but he doesn’t seem as insightful about his own failings as a leader, primarily his inability to forge consensus and build trust. He frequently came off as too ready to bypass rightly-ordered decision-making processes in the name of strong leadership. The more this happened, the more distrust the body felt toward him and the more intractible and politicized the situation became. He was the wrong leader for the wrong time. How is this worthy of the front-page newspaper status?</p>
<p>The “Making New Friends” outreach campaign is a central example in the article. It might have been more successful if it had been given more seasoning and if outsider Friends had been invited to participate. The campaign was kicked off by a survey that confirmed that the greatest threat to the future of the yearly meeting was “<a href="http://www.pym.org/support-and-outreach/making-new-friends/ym-pres8/sld006.htm">our greying membership</a>” and that outreach campaigns “<a href="http://www.pym.org/support-and-outreach/making-new-friends/ym-pres8/sld021.htm">should target young adult seekers</a>.” I attended the yearly meeting session where the survey was presented and the campaign approved and while every Friend under forty had their hands raised for comments, none were recognized by the clerk. “Making New Friends” was the perfect opportunity to tap younger Friends but the work seemed designed and undertaken by the usual suspects in yearly meeting.</p>
<p>Like a lot of Quaker organizations, Philadelphia Yearly Meeting has spent the last fifteen years largely relying on a small pool of established leadership. There’s little attention to leadership development or tapping the large pool of talent that exists outside of the few dozen insiders. This Spring Jeavons had an article in PYM News that talked about younger Friends that were the “future” of PYM and put the cut-off line of youthfulness/relevance at fifty! The recent political battles within PYM seemed to be over who would be included in the insider’s club, while our real problems have been a lack of transparency, inclusion and patience in our decision making process.</p>
<p>Philadelphia Friends certainly have their leadership and authority problems and I understand Jeavons’ frustrations. Much of his analysis is right. I appreciated his regularly column in <em>PYM News</em>, which was often the only place Christ and faith was ever seriously discussed. But his approach was too heavy handed and corporate to fit yearly meeting culture and did little to address the long-term issues that are lapping up on the yearly meeting doorsteps.</p>
<p>For what it’s worth, I’ve heard some very good things about the just-concluded yearly meeting sessions. I suspect the yearly meeting is actually beginning a kind of turn-around. That would be welcome.</p>
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<p><strong>Don’t miss:</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://pod01.prospero.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=920&amp;nav=messages&amp;webtag=kr-phillytm">The Inquirer has an interesting comment thread on the article</a></li>
<li>More blog chatter via these technorati links: <a href="http://www.technorati.com/search/www.philly.com%2Fmld%2Fphilly%2F15328669.htm">Here</a> and&nbsp;<a href=":http://technorati.com/search/www.philly.com%2Fmld%2Finquirer%2F15328669.htm">here</a> (stupid blog-unfriendly Inquirer URL system)</li>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 15:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was given permission to pass along this data from the FGC-sponsored Youth Ministry Consultation that took place Third Month. A number of goals and projects had been brainstormed beforehand. The thirty-or-so participants at the Consultation were each given ten stars, which they were asked to put next to the projects they thought should be [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given permission to pass along this data from the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/its_my_language_now_thinking_a/">FGC-sponsored Youth Ministry Consultation</a> that took place Third Month. A number of goals and projects had been brainstormed beforehand. The thirty-or-so participants at the Consultation were each given ten stars, which they were asked to put next to the projects they thought should be pursued. Every star acted as a vote that there was one person interested in that topic. The stars were coded to indicate the age range of the voter: High-Schooler, Adult Young Friend (18–37 years old) and older Friends.</p>
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<td><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: xx-small;">One of the “stars” charts at the consultation</span></td>
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<p>Being the information design geek, I converted the resultant votes to into qualities and colors and put them into a chart showing interest level. Projects that received no votes from a particular age range are labeled “none,” for no interest; 2–3 stars is “weak” interest and so forth, up to “HOT” which are projects which received over 7 stars from an age group.</p>
<p>As an example, take “develop spirituality.” Seven adult young Friends (aged 18–37) put a star down for this, indicating they thought it was something FGC should promote, hence “strong” (bright red) interest from this age group. No Friend over forty used one of their stars to indicate interest in this work, indicating that none of them thought FGC should be promoting spiritual development. Here are the results:</p>
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Voters</td>
<td align="center">YAF<br>
Voters</td>
<td align="center">Older Adult<br>
Voters</td>
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<td width="45%">Community</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Develop spirituality</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Outreach &amp; how to explain our faith</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Critical mass at MM, QM, YM</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
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<td>Mentoring by older Friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Mentoring to younger Friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Mentoring to older Friends:</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>Help with transitions</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">*HOT*</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Advertising programs</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>Suggestions:</strong></td>
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<td>Traveling Ministries for AYF</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Groups throughout the year for support</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Support for AYF groups at the YM levels</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Database to help isolated friends</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>Clearness/discernment process:</strong></td>
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<td>For HS to College</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For work transitions</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For relationships</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td>For parenthood</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td colspan="4">Intergenerational Spiritual Conversations</td>
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<td>About Vital Friends Issues</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
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<td>Vision of Quakerism in 50 years</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Financial support for AYF</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">*HOT*</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
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<td>Retreats for youth workers</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
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<td>Materials specifically designed for AYF,</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
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<td colspan="4"><strong>General Questions:</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>How do we handle the broad age span?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>How do we tap the energy and passion of this group MMs, YMs &amp; FGC?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>How do we meet the needs without separating AYF from larger community?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>How do we sustain community when we only meet once a year?</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="4">
<h3>Especially for High Schoolers</h3>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
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<tr>
<td colspan="4"><strong>Needs:</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Adults who are better prepared to work with them…</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>FAPï¿½s that have self confidence</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Help with discernment process around college</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Help with disc: C‑O</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Help with discernment around life choices</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Discernment questions: #3, #4, &amp; #5:</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ff0000">strong</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Building community</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Networking</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Bible study, RE curriculum</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Training how one person can have impact</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Training on how to develop group dialogs</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Help to get more teens involved</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Programming help</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Leadership Development</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Suggestions:</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Youth newsletter</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Email forum</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#ffc0c0">lukew</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Email data base</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Event b’ween Young Quakes and Gathering</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Youth exchange</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Programs to facilitate rites of passage</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0ff">weak</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
<td align="center" bgcolor="#c0c0c0">none</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><strong>Things Younger Friends wanted more than Older Friends:<br>
</strong>In order by AYF popularity:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>MENTORSHIP: </strong>The AYFs really want cross-generational mentoring relationships. When the questions were first posed, there only “mentoring by older Friends” and “mentoring to younger Friends.” Check the math and you’ll see that’s the same question (whoever put the questions together forgot that the Quaker understanding of eldership is not necessarily a function of age, hmm). I grabbed a pencil and added “mentoring <em>to</em> older Friends” and it was instantly popular. Even though the mentorship issue was spread over three questions, AYF’s voted “strongly” for each of them, showing terrific popular support. Almost no over-40 Friend voted for this. This is not something that can be forced onto disinterested older Friends, which means I think we young-in’s are going to have to rely on one another for mentorship.</li>
<li><strong>SUPPORT FOR AYF CONFERNCES:</strong> Younger Friends want to spend more time together. Note should be made that the voters were Friends attending a conference and that we were a selected and self-selected group who presumably like to attend conferences. Still, this is popular.</li>
<li><strong>TALKING ABOUT OUR FAITH: </strong>It’s sad that only two older Friends thought explaining the faith was worthwhile. At the same time it’s encouraging that 13 AYFs wanted this. It’s very clear that younger Friends aren’t as afraid of talking about serious faith issues as the Baby Boomers (it’s nice to see some of my essays confirmed!).</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Things Older Friends wanted more than Younger Friends:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong>TAPPING THE YOUTH: </strong>There was what I thought was a semi-obnoxious question about how to “tap the energy and passion” of younger Friends. This is very close to the all-too-common generational mindset that sees “values young people as a resource” (as a ad in heavy-rotation at NPR proclaims). We are not a <em>resource</em> for <em>extraction</em>. Young people are too often seen merely as a source of cheap labor for projects initiated, designed and run by older Friends; they are wanted as passive audience members for older Friends’ pontificating lectures; they are endlessly proclaimed a far-off “future” of Friends rather than the very much here-and-now present of Friends.While older Friends at the consultation felt strongly that young people should be tapped, Adult Young Friends had lukewarm interest in being tapped and high school Friends showed no interest whatsoever. While not all older Friends think of young Friends as “resources,” it’s a common-enough theme that we need to flag it as a part of the generational gap. I suspect that power issues will surface when Quaker institutions try to pull together projects that “tap” youth: twenty-something Friends are going to want more involvement in the design and operation of these projects than older Friends will be willing to give.Similarly, older Friends seem to be more interested that younger Friends attain “critical mass” at Quaker institutions like monthly, quarterly and yearly meetings. The phrasing of the question is a little ambiguous and I see two likely explanations. One is that younger Friends don’t feel they <em>need</em> critical mass to be involved in Quaker institutions and want integrated intergenerational participation rather than “AYF ghettos.” The other possibility (the scarier one) is that younger Friends simply aren’t as committed to Quaker institutions. I suspect the generational differences in responses are the result of both these factors, plus others perhaps.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Things no one particularly cared about:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>No one wants materials specifically designed for AYF. No one wants advertising programs. No one wants a database to help isolated Friends.</li>
<li>An AYF traveling ministries was lukewarm, 4 YAF stars, 3 over-40. This surprises me.</li>
<li>Any other patterns that should be lifted up?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Disclaimer</strong><br>
I should note that this was <em>not</em> a scientific survey. Though the organizers of the Consultation tried hard and the participants were surprisingly diverse for an collection like this, they weren’t representative. There were only four high school participants and I didn’t adjust their votes: “lukewarm” support from them should really be relabled “strong” support.</p>
<p>While this is a small sample size, this is one of the few recent surveys of it type in FGC Quakerism and it bears close study. It confirms a lot of what I’ve been saying all these years (yea!, I’m not crazy) and echoes what I hear a lot of high school and twenty-something Friends talking about. Take it for what its worth!</p>
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<p><strong>Related:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>I first wrote about the Youth Ministries Consulation in “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2005/03/its_my_language_now_thinking_a/">It’s My Language Now</a>”</li>
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					<description><![CDATA[“My thought was, how did that get into the speech?“This choice quote comes from Greg Thielmann, an intelligence expert in the US State Department (now retired). In today’s papers this Bush Administration insider has come right out and said that the White House “lied about Saddam threat”. &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;Meanwhile the happy-go-lucky Donald Rumsfeld has said the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8284">“My thought was, how did that get into the speech?“</a>This choice quote comes from Greg Thielmann, an intelligence expert in the US State Department (now retired). In today’s papers this Bush Administration insider has come right out and said that the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,995188,00.html">White House “lied about Saddam threat”</a>.<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Meanwhile the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/10/international/worldspecial/10MILI.html">happy-go-lucky Donald Rumsfeld has said the occupation is costing the US $3.9 billion per month</a> (see sidebar) and General Tommy Franks predicts high troop levels will be needed “for the foreseeable future.”</p>
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