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		<title>Ministers, elders, and overseers</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Jnana Hodson, a listing of three types of offices in traditional Quaker meetings: Traditionally, Quaker meetings recognized and nurtured individuals who had spiritual gifts as ministers, elders, or overseers. These roles could be filled by men or women, and their service extended over the entire congregation. Many Friends have dropped the term “overseers” in [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Jnana Hodson, a listing of three types of offices in traditional Quaker meetings:</p>
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  Traditionally, Quaker meetings recognized and nurtured individuals who had spiritual gifts as ministers, elders, or overseers. These roles could be filled by men or women, and their service extended over the entire congregation.
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<p>Many Friends have dropped the term “overseers” in recent years, out of concern for how the word is so associated with slavery. As I understand it, early Friends’ use of the word came from its use as an English translation for <a href="https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/kjv/episkopos.html">Episkopos</a> in the New Testament. They considered themselves to be re-establishing early Christian models. For example, Acts 20:28:</p>
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  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
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<p>Bible translations that were geared toward a Catholic audience tended to stick to Latinized words and went with “bishop” over “overseer.” Quakers worried about the connotation of the word could propose that we just start naming bishops. It’s not as nutty as it might seem, as there are anabaptist churches who use the term to talk about roles within individual churches. Of course, sometimes name changes also mask changes in theology and I noticed that some of the more liberal Quaker meetings dropped “overseer” with a speed which they are not otherwise known for. Friends today are a lot more individualistic than Friends were when our institutions were set up — there are many good reasons for this in our histories. But I do hope we’re continuing to find adequate ways to notice and care for our members.<br>
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