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		<title>The Quaker who lived with the CIA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2018 00:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I usually find stories of Friends by tracking a list of a hundred-plus Quaker-related RSS feeds. I’ll also find them being shared on Facebook or in the Reddit Quakers group. For the first time ever I stumbled on one in Twitter Moments. Another likely first: I’m linking to the CIA website. Read the story of [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually find stories of Friends by tracking a list of a hundred-plus Quaker-related RSS feeds. I’ll also find them being shared on Facebook or in the <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Quakers/">Reddit Quakers</a> group. For the first time ever I stumbled on one in Twitter Moments. Another likely first: I’m linking to the CIA website. Read the story of the <a href="https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2018-featured-story-archive/the-women-who-lived-at-cia.html">Quaker pacifist who lived with the CIA</a><a href="https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2018-featured-story-archive/the-women-who-lived-at-cia.html">. </a></p>
<blockquote><p>Margaret [Scattergood] was far more skeptical of CIA and considered the organization’s mission to be in violation of her pacifist beliefs. She used her trust fund to financially contribute to antiwar causes. She lobbied Congress to cut the US Intelligence and military budgets. In the 1980s Margaret opened her home to Sandinistas from Nicaragua, while CIA supported the opposition.</p></blockquote>
<p>Inviting Sandinistas to her home in the middle of the CIA headquarters compound is easily the most kickass Quaker stories I’ve heard in awhile. Chuck Fager also shared some of this story in a nice remembrance in a <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/1987055/">1987 <em>Friends Journal</em> shortly after she died</a>; apparently the land purchases in the 1940s weren’t quite so neighborly as the CIA public relations team seem to make out.</p>
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		<title>Conflict in meeting and the role of heartbreak and testing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago a newsletter brought written reports about the latest round of conflict at a local meeting that’s been fighting for the past 180 years or so. As my wife and I read through it we were a bit underwhelmed by the accounts of the newest conflict resolution attempts. The mediators seemed more [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span id="ljcmt2207253">A few weeks ago a newsletter brought written reports about the latest round of conflict at a local meeting that’s been fighting for the past 180 years or so. As my wife and I read through it we were a bit underwhelmed by the accounts of the newest conflict resolution attempts. The mediators seemed more worried about alienating a few long-term disruptive characters than about preserving the spiritual vitality of the meeting. It’s a phenomena I’ve seen in a lot of Quaker meetings. </span></p>
<p>Call it the FDR Principle after Franklin D Roosevelt, who supposedly defended his support of one of Nicaragua’s most brutal dictators by saying “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.” Even casual historians of Latin American history will know this only led to fifty years of wars with reverberations across the world with the Iran/Contra scandal. The FDR Principle didn’t make for good U.S. foreign policy and, if I may, I’d suggest it doesn’t make for good Quaker policy either. Any discussion board moderator or popular blogger knows that to keep an online discussion’s integrity you need to know when to cut a disruptive trouble-maker off–politely and succintly, but also firmly. If you don’t, the people there to actually discuss your issues–the people you want–will leave.<br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253"><br>
</span>I didn’t know how to talk about this until a post called <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/quakers/261141.html">Conflict in Meeting</a> came through Livejournal this past First Day. The poster, <span style="font-style: italic;">jandrewm</span>, wrote in part:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yet my recognition of all that doesn’t negate the painful feelings that arise when hostility enters the meeting room, when long-held grudges boil over and harsh words are spoken.&nbsp; After a few months of regular attendance at my meeting, I came close to abandoning this “experiment” with Quakerism because some Friends were so consistently rancorous, divisive, disruptive.&nbsp; I had to ask myself: “Do I need this negativity in my life right now?”</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="ljcmt2207253">I commented about the need to take the testimonies seriously:<br>
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<blockquote><p><span id="ljcmt2207253">I’ve been in that situation. A lot of Friends aren’t very good at putting their foot down on flagrantly disruptive behavior. I wish I could buy the “it eventually sorts out” argument but it often doesn’t. I’ve seen meetings where all the sane people are driven out, leaving the disruptive folks and armchair therapists. It’s a symbiotic relationship, perhaps, but doesn’t make for a healthy spiritual community.</span><br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253"></span><br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253">The unpopular solution is for us to take our testimonies seriously. And I mean those more specific testimonies buried deep in copies in <span style="font-style: italic;">Faith &amp; Practice</span> that act as a kind of collective wisdom for Quaker community life. Testimonies against detraction and for rightly ordered decision making, etc. If someone’s actions tear apart the meeting they should be counseled; if they continue to disrupt then their decision-making input should be disregarded. This is the real effect of the old much-maligned Quaker process of disowning (which allowed continued attendance at worship and life in the community but stopped business participation). Limiting input like this makes sense to me.</span><br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253"></span><br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253">The trouble that if your meeting is in this kind of spiral there might not be much you can do by yourself. People take some sort of weird comfort in these predictable fights and if you start talking testimonies you might become very unpopular very quickly. Participating in the bickering isn’t helpful (of course) and just eats away your own self. Distancing yourself for a time might be helpful. Getting involved in other Quaker venues. It’s a shame. Monthly meeting is supposed to be the center of our Quaker spiritual life. But sometimes it can’t be. I try to draw lessons from these circumstances. I certainly understand the value and need for the Quaker testimonies better simply because I’ve seen the problems meetings face when they haven’t. But that doesn’t make it any easier for you.</span><br>
<span id="ljcmt2207253"></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span id="ljcmt2207253">But all of this begs an awkward question: are we really building Christ’s kingdom by dropping out? It’s an age-old tension between purity and participation at all costs. Timothy asked a similar question of me in a comment to my last post. Before we answer, we should recognize that there are indeed many people who have “abandoned” their “Quaker experiment” because we’re not living up to our own ideals. </span></p>
<p>Maybe I’m more aware of this drop-out class than others. It sometimes seems like an email correspondence with the “Quaker Ranter” has become the last step on the way out the door. But I also get messages from seekers newly convinced of Quaker principles but unable to connect locally because of the divergent practices or juvenile behavior of their local Friends meeting or church. A typical email last week asked me why the plain Quakers weren’t evangelical and why evangelical Quakers weren’t conservative and asked “Is there a place in the quakers for a Plain Dressing, Bible Thumping,&nbsp;Gospel Preaching, Evangelical, Conservative, Spirit Led, Charismatic&nbsp;family?” (<span style="font-style: italic;">Anyone want to suggest their local meeting?</span>)</p>
<p>We should be more worried about the people of integrity we’re losing than about the grumpy trouble-makers embedded in some of our meetings. If someone is consistently disruptive, is clearly breaking specific Quaker testimonies we’ve lumped under community and intergrity, and stubbornly immune to any council then read them out of business meeting. If the people you <span style="font-style: italic;">want</span> in your meeting are leaving because of the people you <span style="font-style: italic;">really don’t want</span>, then it’s time to do something. Our Quaker toolbox provides us tool for that action–ways to define, name and address the issues. Our tradition gives us access to hundreds of years of experience, both mistakes and successes, and can be a more useful guide than contemporary pop psychology or plain old head-burying.</p>
<p>Not all meetings have these problems. But enough do that we’re losing people. And the dynamics get more acute when there’s a visionary project on the table and/or someone younger is at the center of them. While our meetings sort out their issues, the internet is providing one type of support lifeline.</p>
<p>Blogger <span style="font-style: italic;">jandrewm</span> was able to seek advice and consolation on Livejournal. Some of the folks I spoke about in the 2003 “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/the_lost_quaker_generation.php">Lost Quaker Generation</a>” series of posts are now lurking away on my Facebook friends list.<span id="ljcmt2207253"> Maybe we can stop the full departure of some of these Friends. They can drop back but still be involved, still engaging their local meeting. They can be reading and discussing testimonies (“<a href="http://www.tractassociation.org/Detraction.html">detraction</a>” is a wonderful place to start) so they can spot and explain behavior. We can use the web to coordinate workshops, online discussions, local meet-ups, new workship groups, etc., but even email from a Friend thousands of miles away can help give us clarity and strength.</span></p>
<p>I think (I hope) we’re helping to forge a group of Friends with a clear understanding of the work to be done and the techniques of Quaker discernment. It’s no wonder that Quaker bodies sometimes fail to live up to their ideals: the journals of&nbsp; olde tyme Quaker ministers are full of disappointing stories and Christian tradition is rich with tales of the roadblocks the Tempter puts up in our path. How can we learn to&nbsp; center in the Lord when our meetings become too political or disfunctional<span id="ljcmt2207253"> (I think I should start looking harder at Anabaptist non-resistance theory)</span><span id="ljcmt2207253">. This is the work, Friends, and it’s always been the work. Through whatever comes we need to trust that any testing and heartbreak has a purpose, that the Lord is using us through all, and that any suffering will be productive to His purpose if we can keep low and listening for follow-up instructions.<br>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here’s a website of “Jeremy Hinzman, a U.S. Army soldier who became a a conscientious objector”:http://www.jeremyhinzman.net/faq.html in the course of his service. His applications denied, he moved to Canada and is seeking political asylum there. I find I can understand the issues all too well. In only a slightly-parallel universe, I’d be in iraq myself [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a website of “Jeremy Hinzman, a U.S. Army soldier who became a a conscientious objector”:http://www.jeremyhinzman.net/faq.html in the course of his service. His applications denied, he moved to Canada and is seeking political asylum there.<br>
I find I can understand the issues all too well. In only a slightly-parallel universe, I’d be in iraq myself instead of publishing Nonviolence.org. My father, a veteran who fought in the South Pacific in World War II, really wanted me to join the U.S. Navy and attend the Naval Academy at Annapolis. For quite some time, I seriously considered it. I am attracted to the idea of service and duty and putting in hard work for something I believe in.<br>
Hinzman’s story is getting a lot of mainstream coverage, I suspect because the “escape to Canada” angle has so many Vietnam-era echoes that resonate with that generation. I wish Hinzman would flesh out his website story though. His Frequently Asked Questions leaves out some important details that could really make the story–why did he join the Army in the first place, what were some of the experiences that led him to rethink his duty, etc. I’d recommend Jeff Paterson’s “Gulf War Refusenik”:http://jeff.paterson.net/ site, which includes lots of stories including his own:<br>
bq. “What am I going to do with my life?” has always been huge question of youth, and today in the wake of the horror and tragedy of New York September 11th this question has increased importance for millions of young people. No one who has seen the images will ever forget… If I hadn’t spent those four years in the Marine Corps, I might be inclined to fall into line now. Most of the time my unit trained to fight a war against peasants who dared to struggle against “American interests” in their homelands-specifically Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Guatemala… Faced with this reality, I began the process of becoming un-American-meaning that the interests of the people of the world began to weigh heavier than my self-interest. I realized that the world did not need or want another U.S. troop…<br>
There are bound to be more stories all the time of service-people who find a different reality when they land on foreign shores. How many will rethink their relationship to the U.S. military. How many will follow Paterson’s example of becoming “un-American”?</p>
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		<title>Iran-Contra alum behind Terror Psychic Network</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Idiot who came up with the “Terror Psychic Network” is leaving the Pentagon over the flap. What’s even more striking is his identity: it’s John Poindexter, one of the people at the heart of the Iran-Contra scandal that rocked the Reagan Administration. For those too young to remember, in the Iran-Contra affair Reagan’s kookiest [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a title="Reuters | Latest Financial News / Full News Coverage" href="http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&amp;storyID=3198102">Idiot who came up with the “Terror Psychic Network” is leaving the Pentagon</a> over the flap. What’s even more striking is his identity: it’s John Poindexter, one of the people at the heart of the Iran-Contra scandal that rocked the Reagan Administration.</p>
<p>For those too young to remember, in the Iran-Contra affair Reagan’s kookiest spooks secretly sold arms to U.S. archenemy number 1 (Iran) in order to circumvent Congressional demands that they not fund an opposition army against U.S. archenemy number 2 (Nicaragua), with the money being funneled through the country that then and now still inexplicably isn’t public enemy number 3 (Saudi Arabia). It was the circuitousness of it all more than anything that kept Reagan out of jail for all of this.</p>
<p>Why Poindexter was ever allowed back anywhere near Washington, much less the Pentagon, is a mystery. Here are some articles on <a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/International_War_Crimes/Iran_Contra_Rehab.html">Poindexter’s return to Washington</a> and <a href="http://www.motherjones.com/news/warwatch/2002/50/we_205_02.html">return of the Iran-Contra crew to the (Bush II) White House</a>. Here’s another article on the resignation of the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/31/politics/31CND-POIN.html?hp">Reagan crook turned Bush-II fool</a>.</p>
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