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		<title>Philadelphia Yearly Meeting’s Interim Meeting: Getting a horse to drink</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This past weekend I gave a talk at the Arch Street Meetinghouse after the Interim Meeting sessions of Philadlephia Yearly Meeting. Interim Meeting is the group that meets sort-of monthly between yearly meeting business sesssions. In an earlier blog post I called it “the establishment” and I looked forward to sharing the new life of [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past weekend I gave a talk at the Arch Street Meetinghouse after the Interim Meeting sessions of Philadlephia Yearly Meeting. Interim Meeting is the group that meets sort-of monthly between yearly meeting business sesssions. In an earlier blog post I called it “the establishment” and I looked forward to sharing the new life of the blogging world and Convergent Friends with this group. I had been asked by the most excellent Stephen Dotson to talk about “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/events/finding-fellowship-between">Finding Fellowship Between Friends Thru The Internet</a>.”</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/Martin_at_PYM-20100915-154516.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">I was curious to return to Interim Meeting, a group I served on about half a decade ago. As I sat in the meeting, I kept seeing glimpses of issues that I planned to address afterwards in my talk: how to talk afresh about faith; how to publicize our activity and communicate both among ourselves and with the outside world; how to engage new and younger members in our work.</p>
<p>Turns out I didn’t get the chance. Only half a dozen or so members of Interim Meeting stuck around for my presentation. No announcement was made at the end of sessions. None of the senior staff were there and no one from the long table full of clerks, alternate clerks and alternate alternate clerks came. Eleven people were at the talk (including some who hadn’t been at Interim Meeting). The intimacy was nice but it was hardly the “take it to the estabishment” kind of event I had imagined.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/The_audience-20100915-154642.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">The talk itself went well, despite or maybe because of its intimacy. I had asked Seth H (aka Chronicler) along for spiritual support and he wrote a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/profiles/blog/show?id=2360685:BlogPost:31346&amp;commentId=2360685:Comment:31673&amp;xg_source=activity">nice review</a> on QuakerQuaker. Steve T, an old friend of mine from Central Philly days, took some pictures which I’ve included here. I videoed the event, though it will need some work to tighten it down to something anyone would want to watch online. The people who attended wanted to attend and asked great questions. It was good working with Stephen Dotson again in the planning. I would wish that more Philadelphia Friends had more interest in these issues but as individuals, all we can do is lead a horse to water. In the end, the yearly meeting is in God’s hands.</p>
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<p><em>Below are observations from Interim Meeting and how the Convergent Friends movement might address some of the issues raised. Let me stress that I offer these in love and in the hope that some honest talk might help. I’ve served on Interim Meeting and have given a lot of time toward PYM over the last twenty years. This list was forwarded by email to senior staff and I present them here for others who might be concerned about these dynamics.</em></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>GENERATIONAL FAIL: </strong></p>
<p>There were about seventy-five people in the room for Interim Meeting sessions. I was probably the third or fourth youngest. By U.S. census definitions I’m in my eighth year of middle age, so that’s really sad. That’s two whole generations that are largely missing from PYM leadership. I know I shouldn’t be surprised; it’s not a new phenomenon. <em>But if you had told me twenty years ago that I’d be able to walk into Interim Meeting in 2010 and still be among the youngest, well…</em> Well, frankly I would have uttered a choice epithet and kicked the Quaker dust from my shoes (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation/">most of my friends did</a>). I know many Friends bodies struggle with age diversity but this is particularly extreme.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: <a href="http://www.quakerads.com/publishers/quakerquaker-org">About 33% of QuakerQuaker’s audience is GenX and 22% are Millenials</a>. If Interim Meeting were as diverse as QuakerQuaker there would have been 16 YAFs (18–35 year olds) and 25 Friends 35 and 49 years of age.<em> I would have been about the 29th youngest in the room–middle aged, just where I should be! </em>QuakerQuaker has an age diversity that most East Coast Friends Meetings would die for. If you want to know the interests and passions of younger Friends, Quaker blogs are an excellent place to learn. There are some very different organizational and style differences at play (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">my post seven years ago</a>, <a href="http://lambswar.blogspot.com/2010/09/bridging-generational-divide-in.html">a post from Micah Bales this past week</a>).</p>
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<p><strong>DECISION-MAKING</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The first part of the sessions was run with what’s called a “Consent Agenda,” a legislative measure where multiple agenda items are approved en masse. It rests on the idealistic notion that all seventy-five attendees has come to sessions having read everything in the quarter-inch packet mailed to them (I’ll wait till you stop laughing). Interim Meeting lumped thirteen items together in this manner. I suspect most Friends left the meeting having forgotten what they had approved. Most educators would say you have to reinforce reading with live interaction but we bypassed all of that in the name of efficiency.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: Quaker blogs are wonderfully rich sources of discussion. Comments are often more interesting than the original posts. Many of us have written first drafts of published articles on our blogs and then polished them with feedback received in the comments. This kind of communication feedback is powerful and doesn’t take away from live meeting-time. There’s a ton of possibilities for sharing information in a meaningful way outside of meetings.</p>
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<p><strong>MINUTES OF WITNESS</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two “minutes” (a kind of Quaker statement/press release) were brought to sessions. Both were vetted through a lengthy process where they were approved first by monthly and then quarterly meetings before coming before Interim Meeting. A minute on Afghanistan was nine months old, a response to a troop level announcement made last December; one against Marcellus Shale drilling in Pennsylvania was undated but it’s a topic that peaked in mainstream media five months ago. I would have more appreciation of this cumbersome process if the minutes were more “seasoned” (well-written, with care taken in the discernment behind them) but there was little in either that explained how the issue connected with Quaker faith and why we were lifting it up now as concern. A senior staffer in a small group I was part of lamented how the minutes didn’t give him much guidance as to how he might explain our concern with the news media. So here we were, approving two out-of-date, hard-to-communicate statements that many IM reps probably never read.</p>
<p>WHAT I WANTED TO TELL INTERIM MEETING: Blogging gives us practice in talking about spirituality. Commenters challenge us when we take rhetorical shortcuts or make assumptions or trade on stereotypes. Most Quaker bloggers would tell you they’re better writers now than when they started their blog. <em>Spiritual writing is like a muscle which needs to be exercised</em>. To be bluntly honest, two or three bloggers could have gotten onto Skype, opened a shared Google Doc and hammered out better statements in less than an hour. <em>If we’re going to be approving these kinds of thing we need to practice and increase our spiritual literacy.</em></p>
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<p><strong>THE ROLE OF COMMITTEES</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The second part was Interim Meeting looking at itself. We broke into small groups and asking three questions: “What is the work of Interim Meeting,” “Are we satisfied with how we do this now?” and “If we were to make changes, what would they be?.” I thought to myself that the reason I ever go to events like this is to see dear Friends and to see what sparks of life are happening in the yearly meeting. As our small group went around, and as small groups shared afterwards, I realized that many of the people in the room seemed to agree: we were hungry for the all-to-brief moments where the Spirit broke into the regimented Quaker process.</p>
<p>One startling testimonial came from a member of the outreach committee. She explained that her committee, like many in PYM, is an administrative one that’s not supposed to do any outreach itself–it’s all supposed to stay very “meta.” They recently decided to have a picnic with no business scheduled and there found themselves “going rogue” and talking about outreach. <em>Her spirit rose and voice quickened as she told us how they spent hours dreaming up outreach projects. Of course the outreach committee wants to do outreach!</em> And with state PYM is in, can we really have a dozen people sequestered away talking about talking about outreach. <em>Shouldn’t we declare “All hands on deck!” and start doing work?</em> It would have been time well spent to let her share their ideas for the next thirty minutes but of course we had to keep moving. She finished quickly and the excitement leaked back out of the room.</p>
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<p><strong>FOLLOW-UP THOUGHTS AND THE FUTURE OF THE YEARLY MEETING</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now I need to stress some things. I had some great one-on-one conversations in the breaks. A lot of people were very nice to me and gave me hugs and asked about family. These are a committed, hopeful group of people. There was a lot of faith in that room! People work hard and serve faithfully. But it feels like we’re trapped by the system we ourselves created. I wanted to share the excitement and directness of the Quaker blogging world. I wanted to share the robustness of communication techniques we’re using and the power of distributed publishing. I wanted to share the new spirit of ecumenticalism and cross-branch work that’s happening.</p>
<p>I’ve been visiting local Friends Meetings that have half the attendance they did ten years ago. Some have trouble breaking into the double-digits for Sunday morning worship and I’m often the youngest in the room, bringing the only small kids. I know there are a handful of thriving meetings, but I’m worried that most are going to have close their doors in the next ten to twenty years.</p>
<p>I had hoped to show how new communication structures, the rise of Convergent Friends and the seekers of the Emerging Church movement could signal new possibilities for Philadelphia Yearly Meeting. Toward the end of Interim Meeting, some Friends bemoaned our lack of resources and clerk Thomas Swain reminded them that with God there is no limitation and nothing is impossible. Some of the things I’m seeing online are the impossible come to life. Look at QuakerQuaker: an unstaffed online magazine running off of a $50/month budget and getting 10,000 visits a month. It’s not anything I’ve done, but this community that God has brought together and the technological infrastructure that has allowed us to coordinate so easily. It’s far from the only neat project out there and there are a lot more on the drawing boad. Some yearly meetings are engaging with these new possibilites. But mine apparently can’t even stay around for a talk.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was five years ago this week that I sat down and wrote about a cool new movement I had been reading about. It would have been Jordan Cooper’s blog that turned me onto Robert E Webber’s The Younger Evangelicals, a look at generational shifts among American Evangelicals. I found it simultaneously disorienting and shocking [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was five years ago this week that I sat down and wrote about a cool new movement I had been reading about. It would have been <a href="http://www.jordoncooper.com/">Jordan Cooper</a>’s blog that turned me onto <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/aprilweb-only/118-12.0.html">Robert E Webber</a>’s <a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.amazon.com/Younger-Evangelicals-Facing-Challenges-World/dp/0801091527">The Younger Evangelicals</a>, a look at generational shifts among American Evangelicals. I found it simultaneously disorienting and shocking that I actually identified with most of the trends Webber outlined. Here I was, still a young’ish Friend attending one of the most liberal Friends meetings in the country (Central Philadelphia) and working for the very organization whose initials (FGC) are international shorthand for hippy-dippy liberal Quakerism, yet I was nodding my head and laughing out loud at just about everything Webber said. Although he most likely never walked into a meetinghouse, he clearly explained the generational dynamics running through Quaker culture and I finished the book with a better understanding of why so much of our youth organizing and outreach was floundering on issues of tokenism and feel-good-ism.</p>
<p>My post, originally titled&nbsp; “<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">The Younger Evangelicals and the Younger Quakers</a>,”&nbsp; (here it is in its <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20040214080939/www.nonviolence.org/quaker/emerging_church.php">original context</a>) started off as a book review but quickly became a Quaker vision manifesto. The section heads alone ticked off the work to be done:</p>
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<li>A re-examination of our roots, as Christians and as Friends</li>
<li>A desire to grow</li>
<li>A more personally-involved, time-consuming commitment</li>
<li>A renewal of discipline and oversight</li>
<li>A confrontation of our ethnic and cultural bigotries</li>
</ul>
<p>When I wrote this, there wasn’t much you could call Quaker blogging (<a href="http://notfrisco2.com/leones/">Lynn Gazis-Sachs</a> was an exception), and when I googled variations on “quakers” and “emerging church” nothing much came up. It’s not surprising that there wasn’t much of an initial response.</p>
<p>It took about two years for the post to find its audience and responses started coming from both liberal and evangelical Quaker circles. In retrospect, it’s fair to say that the <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/">QuakerQuaker community</a> gathered around this essay (here’s <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-quaker-blogosphere-changed-my-life.html">Robin M’s account of first reading it</a>) and it’s follow-up <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/were_all_ranters_now_on_liberal_friends_and_becoming_a_society_of_finders.php">We’re All Ranters Now</a> (<a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/04/20/quaker-ranter-martin-kelley-puts-a-new-face-on-an-old-tradition/">Wess talking about it</a>). Five years after I postd it, we have a cadre of bloggers and readers who regularly gather around the QuakerQuaker water cooler to talk about Quaker vision. We’re getting pieces published in all the major Quaker publications, we’re asked to lead worships and we’ve got a catchy name in “<a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2006/01/robinopedia-convergent-friends.html">Convergent Friends</a>.”</p>
<p><big>And yet?</big></p>
<p>All of this is still a small demographic scattered all around. If I wanted to have a good two-hour caffeine-fueled bull session about the future of Friends at some local coffeeshop this afternoon, I can’t think of anyone even vaguely local who I could call up. A few years ago I started commuting pretty regularly to a meeting that did a good job at the Christian/Friends-awareness/roots stuff but not the discipline/oversight or desire-to-grow end of things. I’ve drifted away the last few months because I realized I didn’t have any personal friends there and it was mostly an hour-drive, hour-worship, hour-drive back home kind of experience.</p>
<p>My main cadre five years ago were fellow staffers at FGC. A few years ago FGC commissioned surveys indicated that potential donors would respond favorably to talk about youth, outreach and race stereotyping and even though these were some of the concerns I had been awkwardly raising for years, it was very clear I wasn’t welcome in quickly-changing staff structure and I found myself out of a job. The most exciting outreach programs I had worked on was a database that would collect the names and addresses of isolated Friends, but <a href="http://www.quakerfinder.org/QF/QFclosed.php">It was quietly dropped</a> a few months after I left. The new muchly-hyped $100,000 program for outreach has <a href="http://www.fgcquaker.org/quakerquest/seekers">this for its seekers page</a> and follows the typical FGC pattern, which is to sprinkle a few rotating tokens in with a retreat center full of potential donors to talk about Important Topics. (For those who care, I would have continued building the isolated Friends database, mapped it for hot spots and&nbsp;coordinated with the youth ministry committee&nbsp;to send teams for extended stays to help plant worship groups. How cool would that be? <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/passing_the_faith_planet_of_the_quakers_style.php">Another opportunity lost</a>.)<br>
<big><br>
So where do we go?<br>
</big><br>
I’m really sad to say we’re still largely on our own. According to actuarial tables, I’ve recently crossed my life’s halfway point and here I am still referencing generational change.</p>
<p>How I wish I could honestly say that I could get involved with any committee in my yearly meeting and get to work on the issues raised in “Younger Evangelicals and Younger Quakers.” Someone recently sent me an email thread between members of an outreach committee for another large East Coast yearly meeting and they were debating whether the internet was an appropriate place to do outreach work–in 2008?!? Britain Yearly Meeting has a beautifully produced <a href="http://quakerweek.org.uk/">new outreach website</a> but I don’t see one convinced young Friend profiled and it’s post-faith emphasis is downright depressing (an involved youngish American Friend looked at it and reminded me that despite occasional attention, smart young seekers serious about Quakerism aren’t anyone’s target audience, here in the US or apparently in Britain).</p>
<p>A number of interesting “Covergent” minded Friends have an insider/outsider relationship with institutional Quakerism. Independent worship groups popping up and more are being talked about (I won’t blow your cover guys!). I’ve seen Friends try to be more officially involved and it’s not always good: a bunch of younger Quaker bloggers have disappeared after getting named onto Important Committees, their online presence reduced to inside jokes on Facebook with their other newly-insider pals.</p>
<p><big>What do we need to do:</big></p>
<ul>
<li>We need to be public figures;</li>
<li>We need to reach real people and connect ourselves;</li>
<li>We need to stress the whole package: Quaker roots, outreach, personal involvement and not let ourselves get too distracted by hyped projects that only promise one piece of the puzzle.</li>
</ul>
<p><big>Here’s my to-do list:</big></p>
<ul>
<li>CONVERGENT OCTOBER: Wess Daniels has talked about everyone doing some outreach and networking around the “convergent” theme next month. I’ll try to arrange some Philly area meet-up and talk about some practical organizing issues on my blog.</li>
<li>LOCAL MEETUPS: I still think that FGC’s isolated Friends registry was one of its better ideas. Screw them, we’ll start one ourselves. I commit to making one. Email me if you’re interested;</li>
<li>LOCAL FRIENDS: I commit to finding half a dozen serious Quaker buddies in the drivable area to ground myself enough to be able to tip my toe back into the institutional miasma when led (thanks to <a href="http://valiantforthetruth.blogspot.com/">Micah B</a> who stressed some of this in a recent visit).</li>
<li>PUBLIC FIGURES: I’ve let my blog deteriorate into too much of a “life stream,” all the pictures and twitter messages all clogging up the more Quaker material. You’ll notice it’s been redesigned. The right bar has the “life stream” stuff, which can be bettered viewed and commented on on my Tumbler page, <a href="http://martinjkelley.tumblr.com/">Tumbld Rants</a>. I’ll try to keep the main blog (and its RSS feed) more seriously minded.</li>
</ul>
<p>I want to stress that I don’t want anyone to quit their meeting or anything. I’m just finding myself that I need a lot more than business-as-usual. I need people I can call lower-case friends, I need personal accountability, I need people willing to really look at what we need to do to be responsive to God’s call. Some day maybe there will be an established local meeting somewhere where I can find all of that. Until then we need to build up our networks.</p>
<p>Like a lot of my big idea vision essays, I see this one doesn’t talk much about God. Let me stress that coming under His direction is what this is all about. Meetings don’t exist for us. They faciliate our work in becoming a people of God. Most of the inward-focused work that make up most of Quaker work is self-defeating. Jesus didn’t do much work in the temple and didn’t spend much time at the rabbi conventions. He was out on the street, hanging out with the “bad” elements, sharing the good news one person at a time. We have to find ways to support one another in a new wave of grounded evangelism. Let’s see where we can all get in the next five years!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those Quaker Ranters readers who are coming to the “FGC Gathering”:www.FGCquaker.org/gathering but haven’t lost internet access yet might be interested in some of the events the Advancement &#38; Outreach committee is sponsoring over the week. There will be a flyer in the registration packets (all these events will take place in Admin 203). For those [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those Quaker Ranters readers who are coming to the “FGC Gathering”:www.FGCquaker.org/gathering but haven’t lost internet access yet might be interested in some of the events the Advancement &amp; Outreach committee is sponsoring over the week. There will be a flyer in the registration packets (all these events will take place in Admin 203). For those not coming, I suspect I’ll have some sort of Gathering round-up post at some point after it’s all done. I’m also co-hosting a Monday night interest group with LizOpp and Robin: “On Fire! Renewing Quakerism through a Convergence of Friends.” For details, see “Liz’s post”:http://thegoodraisedup.blogspot.com/2006/06/interest-group-at-gathering.html or “Robin’s post”:http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2006/06/convergent-travels.html.</p>
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<p>bq.. The FGC Advancement and Outreach committee is sponsoring afternoon events during four days of Gathering. Come share your outreach ideas, learn about FGC and support the growth of Quakerism!<br>
*All Friends Welcome, 1:30–3:00*<br>
Monday:  “What Do Quakers Believe?” Come talk about the range of Quaker beliefs, from Robert Barclay to the present day, and explore what binds us together as Friends. Convened by Deborah Haines.<br>
Wednesday:  A special welcome to Friends from Pacific, North Pacific and Intermountain Yearly Meetings.  Come talk about the spirit, concerns, and Quaker ways of these three independent yearly meetings.<br>
Thursday:  Visitors from Freedom Friends Church will join us to talk about the witness of this unique independent evangelical Friends Church.<br>
*Outreach Hours, 3:15–4:15*<br>
Sunday: Visibility. Interested in publicizing your meeting and getting the Quaker message out into your community? Friends are invited to come share their stories and questions and pick up a free copy of our “Inreach-Outreach Packet for Small Meetings.” Jane Berger will host.<br>
Monday: Isolated Friends &amp; New Worship Groups. Learn about FGC’s new service for Friends and seekers who live far from any meeting or worship group. Are you interested in helping to nurture new worship groups? Come find out what resources are available from the FGC Advancement Committee, and share your stories and ideas.<br>
Wednesday: Friends interested in affiliation. FGC is an association of 14 yearly meetings and regional groups and 9 directly affiliated monthly meetings. A&amp;O clerk Deborah Haines will talk about the work of FGC and the benefits of affiliation.<br>
Thursday: Spiritual Hospitality. It’s easy to feel isolated even within a local meeting. A&amp;O coordinator Martin Kelley will talk about some strategies to overcome the isolations of age, theology, race, lifestyle, etc. What can meetings do to help these Friends not feel isolated?</p>
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		<title>Are Catholics More Quaker?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess folks might wonder why the son of the Quaker Ranter is getting baptized in a Roman Catholic church… [box]An updated note before I start: I don’t want this to be seen as a critique or put-down of any particular individuals but to point out what seems to me to be a pretty obvious [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess folks might wonder why the son of the Quaker Ranter is getting baptized in a Roman Catholic church…</p>
[box]An updated note before I start: I don’t want this to be seen as a critique or put-down of any particular individuals but to point out what seems to me to be a pretty obvious larger dynamic within Quakerism: our religious education programs have not been doing a very good job at transmitting our faith to our young people. One measure of such programs is how many children we retain as actively-participating adults; by such measures I think we can say Quakers are failing.
<p>And, a few perhaps obvious disclaimers: 1) there are deeply faithful people who grew up in Young Friends programs; 2) there are religious ed instructors who are worried about the message we’re giving our young people and fret as I do; 3) there are a lot of members of the RSoF who just don’t think teaching distinctly Quaker faithfulness is important and wouldn’t agree that there’s a problem.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s useful to read this without also looking to my early article, <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation">The Lost Quaker Generation</a>, which mourns the friends I’ve seen drop out of Quakerism (many of them “birthright,” i.e., born into Quaker families), and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/11/were_all_ranters_now_on_libera/">We’re all Ranters Now</a>, which argues that our society of seekers needs to become a society of finders if we are to be able to articulate a faith to transmit.<br>
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</p><p>On June 30, 2000, Julie and I met at a national gathering of Quakers. Fourteen months later we were married at the Woodstown Friends Meetinghouse under the care of the Atlantic City Area Friends Meeting. Roughly fourteen months later, when the sparkles in our eyes were meeting with an approving nod from God and our baby was conceived, I was co-clerk of <a href="http://www.acquakers.org">Atlantic City Area Meeting</a> and Julie was clerk of its Outreach Committee. Ten months later, <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_kelley/438069823/_">our infant son Theo was baptized</a> at Mater Ecclesiae Roman Catholic Church in Berlin, N.J. It’s Julie’s new church; I myself remain Quaker, but without a Meeting I can quite call home. What happened?</p>
<p>I don’t want to try to speak for Julie and why she left Friends to return to the faith she was brought up in. But I do have to testify that the reverence, spirit and authenticity of the worship at Mater Ecclesiae is deeper than that in most Friends Meetinghouses. It’s a church with a lot of members who seem to believe in the real presence of Christ. A disclaimer that Mater Ecclesiae is unusual, one of the few churches in the country that uses the traditional <a href="http://www.materecclesiae.org/rite">Tridentine Mass</a> or Roman Rite, and that it attracts ardent followers who have self-selected themselves, in that they’re not going to their local parish church. I don’t think it’s the Catholicism alone that draws Julie–I think the purposefulness of the worshipers is a large piece. Despite all the distractions (chants, Latin, rote confessions of faith: I’m speaking as a Friend), the worship there is unusually gathered. But more: there’s a groundedness to the faith. In a one-on-one conversation the priest explained to me the ways he thought Quakerism was wrong. I wasn’t offended–quite the contrary, I loved it! It was so refreshing to meet someone who believed what he believed, (Hey, if I didn’t believe in the <a href="http://www.strecorsoc.org/gfox/ch14.html">degeneration of the Roman Catholic Church</a> or the empty professions of <a href="http://chaucer.library.emory.edu/cgi-bin/sgml2html/wwrp.pl?act=text&amp;f=%2Fdata%2Fwomen_writers%2Fdata%2FQuaker.sgm&amp;offset=2407&amp;len=87676&amp;prior=0&amp;next=1&amp;endpos=83627&amp;elmt=DIV1&amp;t=Introduction-%20%20Introduction%20to%20A%20Testimony%20for%20Truth%20against%20all%20Hireling-Priests%20and%20Deceivers%20.%20.%20.%20.%20%20%201655%3B%20%20A%20Warning%20to%20all%20Friends%20who%20Professeth%20the%20Everlasting%20Truth%20.%20.%20.%20.%20%20">hireling priests</a>, I might join him. I also feel comfortable predicting that he would welcome my jousting here.)</p>
<p>What I can talk about is my misgivings about the prospect of raising up Theo as a Quaker in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting. The weakest element of the Religious Society of Friends is its children’s religious education. This is something I’ve seen manifested in two different kinds of ways: content and results.</p>
<p>Quakers have remarkably few expectations of their children. It’s considered remarkable if older children spend a whole ten minutes in Meeting for Worship (I’ve heard adult birthright Friends boast that they’ve never sat through a whole hour of Quaker worship). Quakers are obsessed about listening to what children have to say, and so never share with them what they believe. I’ve known adults birthright Friends who have never had conversations with their parents about the basis of their faith.</p>
<p>Quaker religious education programs often forgo teaching traditional Quaker faith and practice for more faddish beliefs. The basement walls of the Philadelphia Yearly Meeting youth center is painted over with dancing gods, while of the big events of the Young Friends’ annual calendar is a “Quaker sweat lodge”. A culture of touch and physicality (“cuddle puddles”, backrubs) is thought charming and immodest dress is considered a sign of rebellious individuality. Quaker schools publish brochures saying Meeting for Worship is all about “thinking, with God given little notice.” When Quakers want to have “intergenerational” worship, they feel they have to program it with some sort of attention-keeping playtime activity (Mater Ecclesiae echoes Quaker tradition here: “intergenerational” means children sitting through and participating in Mass with the adults).</p>
<p>Too many of the people my age and Julie’s who were brought up at Friends are ignorant of basic Quaker beliefs and are unaware of Quaker traditions (FUM, EFI, Conservatives) outside the easy-going East Coast liberalism they were raised in. For them being a Friend is acting a certain way, believing a certain brand of political philosophy and being part of a certain social group. Too many Young Adult Friends I’ve known over the years are cliquish, irreligious, and have more than their share of issues around intimacy and sexuality.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong: these kids are often really good people, children to be proud of, doing great things in the world. Many of them are open-hearted, spiritually-sensitive, and in deeply grounded relationships. But only a very few are practicing Quakers. And when I look at the religious education they get, I can’t say I’m surprised. If I were to raise Theo as a Quaker, I would have to “home school” him away from most of the religious education programs offered locally. When all the kids scramble out of worship after ten minutes I’d have to say “no” and tell him to keep sitting–how weird would that be?</p>
<p>Theo has a better chance of sharing the traditional Quaker values of the presence of Christ, of Holy Obedience, and of bearing the cross by being raised as a Catholic in a traditionalist church. It’s more likely he’ll turn out Quaker if he’s baptised at Mater Ecclesiae. Julie and I will be teaching him reverence by example. I’ll share my Quaker faith with him. I’m sure he’ll participate in Quaker events, but consciously, selectively, guardedly (in the old Quaker sense).</p>
<p>If Friends believe they have a faith worth holdling, they should also believe they have a faith worth passing on. Do we?</p>
<h2>Related Reading</h2>
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<li>Beckey Phipps conducted a series of interviews that touched on many of these issues and published it in <em>FGConnections</em>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030907105123/http://fgcquaker.org/library/ministry/re-for-21st.html">FGC Religious Education: Lessons for the 21st Century</a> asks many of the right questions. My favorite line: “It is the most amazing thing, all the kids that I know that have gone into [Quaker] leadership programs–they’ve disappeared.”</li>
<li>I touch on these issues from the other side in <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation/">The Lost Quaker Generation</a>, which is about the twenty- and thirty-something Friends that have drifted away</li>
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