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		<title>Tim Gee tracks down Ann Lee’s Quaker connection</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always love a little sleuthing and all the better if it argues against some poorly researched report that made its way to Wikipedia. The claim is that Shaker leader Ann Lee was born a Quaker. The Wikipedia entry says: “Her parents were members of a distinct branch of the Society of Friends (a sect [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always love a little sleuthing and all the better if it argues against some poorly researched report that made its way to Wikipedia.</p>
<p>The claim is that Shaker leader Ann Lee was born a Quaker. The Wikipedia entry says: “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Lee#:~:text=Her%20parents%20were%20members%20of%20a%20distinct%20branch%20of%20the%20Society%20of%20Friends%20(a%20sect%20of%20Quakers)%20and%20too%20poor%20to%20afford%20their%20children%20even%20the%20rudiments%20of%20education">Her parents were members of a distinct branch of the Society of Friends (a sect of Quakers) and too poor to afford their children even the rudiments of education.</a>” The source of this is given in the citation: a 1879 encyclopedia article, a copy of which is hosted on Wikisource: “<a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_American_Cyclop%C3%A6dia_(1879)/Lee,_Ann#:~:text=Her%20parents%20were%20members%20of%20a%20distinct%20branch%20of%20the%20society%20of%20Friends%2C%20and%20too%20poor%20to%20afford%20their%20children%20even%20the%20rudiments%20of%20education">Her parents were members of a distinct branch of the society of Friends, and too poor to afford their children even the rudiments of education</a>.” A source for this claim was never given in the encyclopedia, though later on it does reference Frederick William Evans, a much later Shaker figure.</p>
<p>That is the Tim Gee compiles <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/ann-lee-was-never-a-quaker-heres-the-evidence/">five pieces of evidence that together feel very convincing</a>.</p>
<p>There are of course influences but that’s to be expected. Every religious movement of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Great_Awakening">Second Great Awakening</a> had some relationship to Quakers. The Methodists, Mormons, Holiness, Adventists all have some connections. When you tour the “1652 Country” area of England, where George Fox first brought Quakers together, you’ll keep running into signs about John Wesley doing the same for Methodists a century later, and here in South Jersey where I live a whole slew of Quakers became Methodists in the early 1800s. At least one early Mormon evangelist in Ohio essentially went from Quaker town to Quaker town trying to recruit people. The Quaker defense of female leadership and the principle that women can preach obviously rubbed off on the Shakers and other movements.</p>
<p>The idea that the British colonies in America were some pure land where we could reinvent a primitive Christianity was a powerful meme (if you will) at the time and certainly drew Ann Lee to cross over and plant a religious movement here. But Ann Lee picked one of the least Quaker areas to plant her community and drew early members from New England millennialist revivalists. She definitely wanted to build something distinct from Friends.</p>
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		<title>Welcoming families in meetings</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2019 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An account of one British meeting finding space for families: It has been the task of the whole meeting not just of one or two; there has been an awareness that what they are doing now will need to change and evolve. And there has been a care and nourishing of us as parents too, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An account of one British meeting finding space for families:</p>
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  It has been the task of the whole meeting not just of one or two; there has been an awareness that what they are doing now will need to change and evolve. And there has been a care and nourishing of us as parents too, with our own spiritual journeys and need for nurture.</p>
<p>  I know, from talking to other Quaker parents – and, very sadly, from parents who would love to explore Quakerism but who have felt discouraged or unwelcomed – that we have been particularly lucky. Lucky not because we found a Quaker community with a ready-made children’s meeting, but because we found a meeting willing and ready to welcome, to make space, where there was a sense of gladness that we were there.
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		<title>Remembering Christine Greenland</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over email, the news that Christine Manville Greenland has passed. In recent times I worked with Christine mostly through the Tract Association of Friends but I’ve known her for so long I don’t know when I first met her. Whenever she said something it was well worth listening to. On online forums from Soc.religion.quaker to [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over email, the news that Christine Manville Greenland has passed. In recent times I worked with Christine mostly through the Tract Association of Friends but I’ve known her for so long I don’t know when I first met her.</p>
<p>Whenever she said something it was well worth listening to. On online forums from Soc.religion.quaker to Facebook she was always encouraging to what Samuel Bownas had called “infant ministers.” She had the rare ability to slice through thorny Quaker issues with unexpected observation and wisdom. She had a long view of recent Quaker history that put things in context and she would pull metaphors from her training as a botanist to explain mystifying behaviors in our coreligionists.</p>
<p>She also had a wealth of institutional memory. There’s incredible value in this. Friends, like most humans, give a lot of value to the ways we’re doing things right now. It only takes a few years before a process feels timeless and essential. We forget that things once worked differently or that other Friends have a different methods. By being involved with Friends in different areas—Canada and Colorado—Christine brought geographic awareness and by being involved in Philadelphia so long she brought a modern historical awareness. That dysfunctional meeting everyone’s talking about? She’ll remember that everyone was talking about it thirty years ago for another controversy and point out the similarities. That doubt you’ll have about a path? Christine will tell you how others have felt the leading and assure you that it’s genuine.</p>
<p>She did all this with such gentleness and modesty that it’s only now that she’s gone that I’m realizing the debt I owe her. More than anything perhaps, she showed how to live a life as a Friend of integrity through the politics and foibles of our Religious Society.</p>
<p>I used Google to find precious gems of wisdom she left on comment threads. It’s a long trail. She was active on soc.religion.quaker back in the day, commented on most Convergent Friends blogs and was active on Facebook. She took the time to write many enlightening and warm commentary. Here is a random sample.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/vision-and-leadership-keeping-the-long-view/#comment-449520788">Comment on my post “Vision and Leadership”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Yesterday, I&nbsp; clerked a small quarterly meeting working group — I’m co-clerk, since it&nbsp; isn’t my quarter… and the other co-clerk is, which works well. We keep asking the questions and seeing the potentials … but when it comes down to being faithful (a term I use instead of “accountable”) that needs consistent testing. It is important to center in worship, no matter what we are doing.</p>
<p>I had the experience of being chair of a group of biologists, and found that, even then, I conducted business in the same way… one of seeking guidance from other members of the group — even though the group of which we were a small part used Robert’s rules of order. I felt our group was too small to make that approach workable… Occasionally, I forgot I wasn’t among Friends until another member of the group (a United Church graduate of Swarthmore College) reminded me… Church of the Brethren folks just grinned and allowed as how they preferred the approach; we were, after all, both friends and biologists.&nbsp; For most of us, the work had both a scientific and a spiritual basis.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.micahbales.com/get-rid-yearly-meetings/">To Micah Bales’s “Is It Time to Get Rid of Yearly Meetings?”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I checked in with Friends at our Quarterly Meeting picnic yesterday; responses were mixed for a variety of reasons, some having to do with resistance to changing the ways in which we are Friends, and other responses that I can only describe as “institutional cheer-leading”.</p>
<p>Some of this has to do with expected tensions as we grapple with matters of both race and class; still other matters have to do with the fact that our structures have changed at least twice in 30 years, as has the outline of our faith and practice. The question I have (of myself and others) is “How do we — individually and corporately — show that we truly love one another as Christ has loved us?” By that, I mean all others.</p>
<p>The most hopeful exchange was speaking with a dear Friend in my former meeting who had gone for the first time in decades, and feels strongly led to encourage her meeting to assist in work going on at both the quarter and yearly meeting level; this will cross boundaries. I was hopeful in part because this Friend exudes consistent love. … and has in the 25 years I’ve known her. Love of God/neighbor are inseparable. She lives that better than I do.</p>
<p>It seems I have much to learn.</p></blockquote>
<p>Comment on my “What Does it Mean to be a Quaker?” (on an old site)</p>
<blockquote><p>I cringe when I hear the word “Quakerism” or “the Quaker Way”… I find the two terms interchangeable — both can lack substance. It seems we have finally become the “bureaucratic association of distant acquantances” rather than the Religious Society of Friends. Some years ago, an experienced Friend wrote that Integrity (saying what one means, meaning what one says) was at the heart of Quaker Practice — as a testimony.</p>
<p>If we’re just going for PR, that lacks integrity.</p>
<p>The question — for me — becomes “How can I live as a Friend?”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/categorically-not-the-testimonies/">Comment on Eric Moon’s “Categorically Not the Testimonies”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>When I first came to Friends, it was the way of life — not the intellectual construct — that drew me to meeting week after week (a university meeting in what later became Intermountain Yearly Meeting). When I applied for membership, my committee of clearness questioned more whether I could live into a way of life, into the community of that particular meeting. Friends felt that wrestling with the understanding of the faith tradition was a part of my education. Only after I moved to Philadelphia did I begin hearing of the “parsing” of the faith tradition. It seemed too pat.</p>
<p>Still, the overlapping categories are still as useful by way of explanation, but it isn’t the whole story.</p>
<p>As with many matters of faith, for those who possess it, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, no explanation is possible. Howard Brinton did his best by way of explanation, but faith-wrestling is a task we all have.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://questforadequacy.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-cost-of-traveling-ministry.html">Comment on Ashley Wilcox’s The Cost of Traveling Ministry</a></p>
<blockquote><p>My question about younger Friends serving as traveling ministers is somewhat more serious: Are their meetings attentive to both the spiritual gifts and the needs (cost of travel, etc.)as well as the spiritual need for support. If not, is the Friend with a concern for travel, teaching, or any other ministry) humble enough to ask the questions Jon is asking. In my experience (as an older adult Friend)there is little communication among age groups so that gifts of ministry are fully recognized… Young Friends are often left to their own devices. It may be that lack of spiritual support that is the “last door out.”</p>
<p>For instance, I would not travel without the full consent of my past committee of care, all of whom know me well. They have generously supported me this year (as well as my co-leader).</p>
<p>What concerns me is the energy it takes (spiritual and physical), and that it most often takes an elder to attend to the mundane things — as well as to keep the minister on track.</p></blockquote>
<p>She was also always one to think of the kids. Here she is <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/bringing-children-to-worship/">commenting on Kathleen Karhnak-Glasby’s “Bringing Children to Worship: Trusting God to Take Over from There”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I recall one parent of a small meeting in Ontario at Canadian Yearly Meeting sessions trying to encourage his daughter to sit quietly during worship… Her very reasonable response was “but Daddy, I can pray standing on my head!” Her ministry caused me to reflect on whether I could indeed pray/worship in all circumstances, and from whatever position I was in at the time. I still reflect on that…</p>
<p>At another meeting, when Friends noticed the power struggles between children and their parents, we asked elder Friends to serve as “adoptive” grandparents, with whom the children could sit… That defused the power struggles, and members of meeting who had no children of their own were very helpful to parents in that meeting.</p>
<p>I also recall learning to sink deeply into worship — and hearing a younger Friend’s grandmother giggle. I looked down and there was the 1–2 year old peering up in wonder at why/how I could sit so quietly when he was busy crawling under the benches. it was just fine. He became a part of my prayers that day, and still is a part of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this one has to be the last I’ll share, from a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/forum/topics/elders-corner?xg_source=activity&amp;id=2360685%3ATopic%3A110091&amp;page=2#comments">QuakerQuaker discussion started by Richard B Miller and titled “Elders’ Corner”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Like you, I learned about the role of elders from Conservative Friends (in Canada and Ohio).&nbsp; In the context of my own meeting (and quarter), however, there are Friends who can and do serve as guides and sounding boards — offering corrections as may be required.&nbsp; Ideally, elders should arise from the monthly meetings, and then be recognized in larger bodies of Friends, not necessarily being named by a yearly meeting nominating committee.</p>
<p>I was asked to serve as an elder for Yearly Meeting/Interim Meeting… but because I was also on the nominating committee, had a “stop” about whether that was rightly ordered. I consulted some North Carolina Friends, who agreed with the “stop”.</p>
<p>One difficulty that you raised is that many of the conservative Friends who held that tradition are no longer available as guides… One effect is that the role elders once played is diminishing among conservative Friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m feeling pretty broken up right now. And I’m feeling the weight of this loss. I’ve found myself more and more to be the one giving out advice and giving historical context that newer Friends might not have. It’s the kind of perch that Christine had. I’m only starting to appreciate that she formed a gentle mentoring role for me—and I’m sure for many others.</p>
<p>A few years ago my wife and I lost our remaining parents (her dad, my mom) and we had the unescapable recognition that we were now the oldest generation. I know there are older Friends around still and some have bits of Christine’s wit and wisdom. But one of our human guides have left us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today Google came out with a new app called PhotoScan that will scan your old photo collection. Like just everyone, I have stashes of shoeboxes inherited from parents full of pictures. Some were scanned in a scanner, back when I had one that was compatible with a computer. More recently, I’ve used scanning apps like [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today Google came out with a new app called PhotoScan that will scan your old photo collection. Like just everyone, I have stashes of shoeboxes inherited from parents full of pictures. Some were scanned in a scanner, back when I had one that was compatible with a computer. More recently, I’ve used scanning apps like <a href="https://readdle.com/products/scannerpro">Readdle’s Scanner Pro</a> and <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scanbot-6-pdf-document-qr/id834854351?mt=8">Scanbot</a>. These de-skew the photographs of the photos that your phone takes but the resolution’s is not always the best and there can be some glare from overhead lights, especially when you’re working with a glossy original pictures.</p>
<p>Google’s approach cleverly stitches together multiple photos. It uses a process much like their 360-degree photo app: you start with a overview photo. Once taken, you see four circles hovering to the sides of the picture. Move the camera to each and it takes more pictures. Once you’ve gone over all four circles, Google stitches these five photos together in such a way that there’s no perspective distortion.</p>
<p>What’s remarkable is the speed. I scanned 15 photos in while also making dinner for the kids. The dimensions of all looked good and the resolution looks about as good as the original. These are good results for something so easy.</p>
<p>Check out Google’s <a href="https://blog.google/products/photos/now-your-photos-look-better-ever-even-those-dusty-old-prints/">announcement blog post</a> for details.</p>
<p><a href="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-15-at-8.07.22-PM.png?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignnone wp-image-56836 size-full" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-15-at-8.07.22-PM.png?resize=640%2C489&#038;ssl=1" alt="Quick scans from an envelope inherited from my mom." width="640" height="489" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-15-at-8.07.22-PM.png?w=861&amp;ssl=1 861w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-15-at-8.07.22-PM.png?resize=300%2C229&amp;ssl=1 300w" sizes="(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was in early high school when I got my first alarm clock radio. My parents were a bit older when I was born, so the LPs in the back of our hall closet were a generation-and-a-half out-of date: I remember mostly musical soundtracks like South Pacific and West Side Story. My older brother had [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-39829" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/radio.jpg?resize=640%2C240&#038;ssl=1" alt="radio" width="640" height="240" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/radio.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/radio.jpg?resize=300%2C113&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/radio.jpg?resize=768%2C288&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/radio.jpg?resize=1024%2C384&amp;ssl=1 1024w" sizes="(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px">I was in early high school when I got my first alarm clock radio. My parents were a bit older when I was born, so the LPs in the back of our hall closet were a generation-and-a-half out-of date: I remember mostly musical soundtracks like South Pacific and West Side Story. My older brother had brought the Beatles into our house but he had moved away for college and adulthood years&nbsp;before and the only trace of his musical influence was a Simon &amp; Garfunkel greatest hits 8‑track tape my mom had bought for a penny from the Time-Life record club.</p>
<p>In my bedroom late at night in the early 80s, I explored the sounds inside my new radio. I would bury&nbsp;myself underneath my Star Trek sheets, pull&nbsp;the radio inside, and listen with volume barely perceptible. Three was no real reason for the&nbsp;secrecy. I’m sure my parents wouldn’t have particularly cared. But I was a private kid. I didn’t want to let on that I was curious about the adult world. Pop radio and MASH reruns were my secret.</p>
<p>I had had a shortwave radio in middle school and brought the thrill of long-distance discovery to my radio explorations. Geography and sound had more mystery in those days before the internet. On a cold, clear night, I could tune in AM powerhouses half a continent away.</p>
<p>One particularly cold night, one of these distant signals played a song I had never heard or even imagined. It was half-drowned out by static. The signal drifted in and out in waves but I listened mesmerized. To a introverted kid in a sleep Philly suburb, this song was a key to a yearned-for future. I was instantly certain that that no one around me had ever heard this song. If only I could make out some words, maybe I could spend the next year scanning the distant radio bands to hear it again. As I got older, I could go into the city to scour bins in the seediest of indie record stores. This song no one knew would be a touchstones to a new adulthood I was constructing in the secret of my bedroom.</p>
<p>As the fade came, I barely caught the DJ’s words through the static. “Hotel California.” I vowed to myself that someday, somehow, I would find this song and hear it again.</p>
<p>RIP Glenn Frey.</p>
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		<title>Elmer Swim Club: the heartbreak of autism parents</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was ambushed while leaving the Elmer Swim Club&#160;today by a guy I’ve never met who told me never to return, then told me he’s a vice president of the governing association, and then told me he had papers inside to&#160;back him up. Although it was meant to look like an accidental run-in as we [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<figure id="attachment_38699" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-38699" style="width: 225px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" class="wp-image-38699 size-medium" title="Elmer Swim Club" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?resize=225%2C300&#038;ssl=1" alt="Elmer Swim Club" width="225" height="300" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?w=1536&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/IMG_2901.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w" sizes="(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px"></a><figcaption id="caption-attachment-38699" class="wp-caption-text">Francis at his favorite place in the world: the top of the Elmer high dive</figcaption></figure>
<p>I was ambushed while leaving the <a href="http://www.elmerswimclub.com/">Elmer Swim Club</a>&nbsp;today by a guy I’ve never met who told me never to return, then told me he’s a vice president of the governing association, and <em>then</em> told me he had papers inside to&nbsp;back him up. Although it was meant to look like an accidental run-in as we were walking out, it was clear it was staged with the manager on duty.</p>
<p>The problem is the behavior of our soon-to-be 10 yo Francis. He is difficult. He gets overwhelmed easily and doesn’t respond well to threats by authority figures. We know. He’s autistic. We deal with it every day. There’s no excusing his behavior sometimes. But there’s also no missing that he’s a deeply sweet human who has troubles relating and is making heroic strides toward learning his emotions. We driven the extra distance to this swim club for years because it’s been a place that has accepted us.</p>
<p>People at Elmer—well most of them—haven’t dismissed Francis&nbsp;as our problem, but have come together as an extended family to work through hard times to help mold him. He’s made friends and we’ve made friends. The swim club’s motto is that it’s the place&nbsp;“Where Everyone is Family”&nbsp;and we&nbsp;found this was the rare case where a cheesy tag line captured something real. Family. You don’t just throw up your hands when someone in the family is difficult and gets disrespectful when they get socially overwhelmed.</p>
<p>The VP was a control-your-kids kind of guy, clearly unaware of the challenges of raising an autistic kid—and clearly unwilling to use this parking lot moment as a learning opportunity. I tried to stay human with him and explain why this particular community was so special. The swim coaches always cheered our kids on despite always coming in dead last—not only that, but even put Francis in relay races! There have always been lots of extra eyes watching him and willing to redirect him when he started melting down. Most of the time he needs a drink, a snack, or some quiet sensory time. To be in a community that understood this is beyond miraculous for autism families. The worst thing is to start to scream or threaten, which unfortunately is some people’s default. Some authority figures know how to earn&nbsp;Francis’s trust; others just make things worse over and over again. At Elmer the latter finally won out.</p>
<p>We first started coming to this pool for swim lessons in 2009. After six years becoming more involved in this deeply welcoming community, I had started to allow myself to think we had found a home. I’d daydream of the day when Francis would be 18, graduating from the swim team and people would give him an extra rousing cheer when his name was called at the end-of-season banquet. We’d all tell stories with tears in our eyes of just&nbsp;how far he had come from that 9yo who couldn’t control his emotions. And we were at the point where I imagined this as a central identity for the family–the place where his older brother would sneak his first kiss on the overnight campout, or where his younger siblings would&nbsp;take their first courageous jumps off the high dive.</p>
<p>Julie’s making calls but I’m not holding my breath. What happened is an breathtakingly overt violation of the club association’s bylaws. But would we even feel safe returning? Francis is easily manipulated. It only takes a few hardened hearts at the top who believe autism is a parenting issue—or who just don’t care to do the extra work&nbsp;to accommodate a difficult child.</p>
<p>Fortunately for us, for a while we had a place that was special. The Elmer Swim Club and Elmer Swim Team will always have a special place in our hearts. Our thanks to all the wonderful people there. Here’s some memories:</p>

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<p><b>Update</b>: Our post shedding light on the Elmer Swim Club’s trustee misbehavior and the board’s violation of its own bylaws has now had over 1800 Facebook interactions (shares, likes, comments) and the blog post itself has been read 9,970 times. Terms like “autism elmer pool” are trending on our incoming Google searches and the post looks like it will be a permanent top-five search result for the pool. Although our family will never set foot in its waters again, our absence will be a remain a presence. Discussions over what happened will continue for years.</p>
<p>I share these stats to encourage people to talk about misbehavior in the public sphere. It doesn’t help civil society to bury conflict in the tones of hushed gossip. Just as we as parents work every day to help our autistic son make better decisions, all of us can insist that our community organizations follow best practices in self-governance and abide by their own rules. Bylaws matter. Parking lot civility matter. Kids should be held responsible for their actions. So should trustees.</p>
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		<title>What Do You Teach the Kids, Nones?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2015 19:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What Do You Teach the Kids, Nones?: &#160;From Religion in the News, an interesting study on what “spiritual but not religious” parents (the “nones”) are looking for: Many of [the nones] are nonetheless reluctant to impose their skepticism on their children, and will often outsource religious education by sending their children to a Protestant Sunday [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://religioninthenews.org/2015/03/02/what-do-you-teach-the-kids-nones/">What Do You Teach the Kids, Nones?</a>:</div>
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<div>&nbsp;From Religion in the News, an interesting study on what “spiritual but not religious” parents (the “nones”) are looking for:</div>
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<div>Many of [the nones] are nonetheless reluctant to impose their skepticism on their children, and will often outsource religious education by sending their children to a Protestant Sunday school or Catholic CCD or Jewish Hebrew School. But while, like other Americans, Nones “agree that everybody should be able to choose,” Manning said, “Nones won’t allow children to choose just anything.”</div>
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<div>What I find interesting is parents’ willingness to outsource religious education to local institutions that have stronger beliefs that they themselves do—as long as the school program is relatively non-judgemental.</div>
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<div>This actually rings true for me personally. Although I’m Quaker and my wife Catholic, the most regular outside-the-home religious ed my kids get is from the Presbyterian Sunday School in our town. We’ve picked it because it’s hyper-local, the teachers are nice and down to earth, and—well, they only focus on cross-denominational Bible stories and crafts.</div>
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<div>In the Philadelphia area, Quaker schools are known as the go-to place for parents that want (and can afford) a progressive, ethical education that has a spiritual component but isn’t religious. If “nones” are looking for safe religious education on Sunday morning, it seems like it would be theoretically possible to extend that known “Quaker school” brand and reputation over to our First-day schools. It would be a tremenous outreach tool.</div>
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<div>Alas, this is just idle speculation. I don’t see many local meetings that are able (willing?) to take on a big project like this. Some meetings would get consumed over internal disagreements on what to even teach. And then, well, I wonder if we have a deep enough bench of experience. A few years ago Philadelphia Yearly Meeting’s sessions overlapped with the Vacation Bible School at my local Presbyterian church. This is one small church in one small town and yet their VBS attendance was not that much less than the elementary/middle-school youth program at PhYM sessions. It was sobering to realize just how small we Friends sometimes are.</div>
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					<description><![CDATA[President Obama’s been attributing some of his so-called “evolution” on same-sex marriage to his daughters. As he told ABC’s Robin Roberts: You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table, and we’re talking about their friends [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Obama’s been attributing some of his so-called “evolution” on same-sex marriage to his daughters. As he told ABC’s Robin Roberts:</p>
<blockquote><p>You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table, and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and, frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.</p></blockquote>
<p>So where do Obama’s daughter’s independent friends come from? Like most tweens the likeliest answer is school–in their case, Sidwell Friends. It’s not unlikely that the “evolution” owed something to the Quaker environment there.</p>
<p>Most elite Quaker schools have only a token base of Quaker students and teachers, so we can’t assume that Malia and Sasha’s friends are Friends. Like many outward-facing Quaker institutions, modern Friends schools’ strongest claim to Quakerism is the values and discernment techniques they share with the wider world. They consciously transmit a style and pedagogy and create an environment of openness and diversity. Of course the Obama kids are going to rub up against non-traditional marriages at a East Coast Quaker school. And no one should be surprised if they bring a little of that back home when the school bus drops them off at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/obama-girls-influence-the-president-again/">NYTimes: Obama Girls Influence the President — Again</a><br>
President Obama often uses his daughters, Malia and Sasha, as object lessons in explaining his reasoning behind important policy positions.</p></blockquote>
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