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		<title>Nostra Maxima Culpa</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nostra Maxima Culpa: Andrew Sullivan, andrewsullivan.com [Re-posted from earlier today.]Alex Gibney’s new documentary on the child-rape epidemic in the Catholic Church that raged for decades (and maybe centuries), Mea Maxima Culpa, debuted tonight on HBO. I’ve watched it twice. It is both an… Andrew Sullivan on the priest abuse cover-up: “Jesus must always be with [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://flip.it/h7HNG">Nostra Maxima Culpa</a>: </p>
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<p>Andrew Sullivan, <a href="http://flip.it/h7HNG">andrewsullivan.com</a></p>
[Re-posted from earlier today.]Alex Gibney’s new documentary on the child-rape epidemic in the Catholic Church that raged for decades (and maybe centuries), <i>Mea Maxima Culpa</i>, debuted tonight on HBO. I’ve watched it twice. It is both an…
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<p>Andrew Sullivan on the priest abuse cover-up:<br>
“Jesus must always be with the vic­tims. He is the vic­tim. When a priest rapes a child, Jesus is raped. When an arch­bish­op cov­ers up the crime, Jesus is raped.”</p>
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		<title>Trust, direct revelation and church teachings</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A response to &#160;a post by Jess Easter on QuakerQuaker, “My Quaker Relationship with Jesus”: It’s not anti-Christian to say you have doubts about your relationship with Jesus. It’s perfectly human. Most of us would get bogged down in the intellectualism if we tried to map out a precise God/Christ relationship. One thing I’ve always [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to &nbsp;a post by Jess Easter on QuakerQuaker, “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/profiles/blogs/my-quaker-relationship-with">My Quaker Relationship with Jesus</a>”:</p>
<p>It’s not anti-Christian to say you have doubts about your relationship with Jesus. It’s perfectly human. Most of us would get bogged down in the intellectualism if we tried to map out a precise God/Christ relationship. One thing I’ve always liked about Friends is our radical honesty in this regards. A priest in a strictly orthodox liturgical tradition is expected to preach on topics on which they have no direct divine experience and to base their words on church teachings. When a Friend rises in ministry they are expected to be speak from a moment of direct revelation.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/The_Quaker_Synod-20110315-131010.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">We also have church teachings of course. Robert Barclay is our go-to guy on many theological matters, and certain journals have become all-but-canonized on the way we understand ourselves and our tradition. It’s just that this second-hand knowledge needs to be presented as such and kept out of the actual worship time. As my Quaker journey has progressed, I’ve directly experienced more and more openings that confirm the tenets of traditional Quaker Christianity. That’s built my trust.</p>
<p>I’m now willing to give the benefit of the doubt to beliefs that I haven’t myself experienced. If someone like William Penn says he’s had a direct revelation about a particular issue, I’ll trust his account. I know that in those cases where we had similar openings, our spiritual experiences have matched. I won’t minister about what he’s said. I won’t get defensive about a point of doctrine. I’ll just let myself open to the possibility that even the more intellectually outlandish parts of orthodox Christian doctrine just might be true.</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/Google_Image_Result_for_http__tatertotco.files.wordpress.com_2008_07_img_0754.jpg-20110315-131455.jpg?w=640" alt align="right">It’s tempting to go to “holy” sites to expect some special revelation. In her post, Jess reports feeling a sense of feeling “bored and indifferent” when visiting the Western Wall and the&nbsp;Garden of Gethsemane. I think this is perfectly normal. There’s the story of the Quaker minister traveling through the American colonies with a local Friend as guide. They come to a crossroads and the local Friend points to tree stump and proudly proclaims that George Fox himself tied his horse to that tree when it was alive. The traveling minister dismounts his horse and walks to the stump. He stands there silently for awhile and walks back to his traveling companion with a sober look. The local is excited and asks him what he saw. The traveling minister replied: I looked into the face of idolatry.</p>
<p>The Holy Spirit is not confined or enshrined in any place–be it the Western Wall, the gilded steepled church or the tree George Fox sat under. Jesus’ death tore the Temple shroud in two and His spirit is with us always, even when it’s hard to feel or see. I think the boredom we experience in “holy” sites or with “holy” people is often &nbsp;a teaching gift–a guidance to look elsewhere for Spiritual truth.<em><br>
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		<title>Gregory Gets Baptized</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Depending on your theological tendencies, Gregory was baptized or sprinkled this past weekend. It was a very moving ceremony, though an emergency trip to the potty for the 4yo meant I missed the best part. Apparently the priest raised him over the altar and made the sign of cross with him. This is at St [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on your theological tendencies, Gregory was baptized or sprinkled this past weekend. It was a very moving ceremony, though an emergency trip to the potty for the 4yo meant I missed the best part. Apparently the priest raised him over the altar and made the sign of cross with him. This is at <a href="http://www.stnicholasmillville.com/">St Nicholas’ Ukrainian Catholic Church</a> in Millville NJ. We all went across the street to a Polka dance afterwards and then had some cake and snacks at the <a href="http://www.savestmarys.net">liberated St Mary’s</a> in Malaga.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_kelley/sets/7215762594809676" title="Godparents holding the baby by martin_kelley, on Flickr"><img data-recalc-dims="1" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/5404915917_46fefb34ff.jpg?resize=500%2C375" width="500" height="375" alt="Godparents holding the baby"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_kelley/sets/72157625948096766/"><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" alt src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/Gregory_Baptism_-_a_set_on_Flickr-20110202-173605.png?resize=470%2C234" title="Gregory's Baptism" class="alignnone" width="470" height="234"></a></p>
<p>And for new readers, I long ago explained <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/11/are_catholics_more_quaker/">why the Quaker Ranter’s kid was getting baptized</a>. Sorry for the weird formatting, I haven’t cleaned up all the back articles.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This passage from Ezekiel struck me this evening: What sorrow awaits you shepherds who feed yourselves instead of your flocks. Shouldn’t shepherds feed their sheep?.. You have not tended the sick or bound up the injured. You have not gone looking for those who have wandered away and are lost. Instead, you have ruled them [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This passage from Ezekiel struck me this evening:</p>
<blockquote><p>What sorrow awaits you shepherds who feed yourselves instead of your flocks. Shouldn’t shepherds feed their sheep?.. You have not tended the sick or bound up the injured. You have not gone looking for those who have wandered away and are lost. Instead, you have ruled them with harshness and cruelty. So my sheeph have been scattered without a shepherd, and they are easy prey for any wild animal. They have wandered through all the mountains and all the hills, across the face of the earth, yet no one has gone to search for them…</p>
<p>For this is what the Soverign Lord says: I myself will search and find my sheep. I will be like a shepherd looking for his scattered flock… I will search for my lost ones who strayed away, and I will bring them safely home again. I will bandage the injured and strenghten the weak. <em>Book of Ezekiel 34.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It seems appropriate for all sorts of reasons. Last week the priest of my wife’s Catholic church shut it down under false pretenses (see <a href="http://www.savestmarys.net/blog">savestmarys.net/blog</a>), the culmination of a long plan to close it and ultimately most of the small Catholic churches in South Jersey. There are sheep that will be scattered by these acts. I’m also just so acutely aware of religious of all denominations who are so caught up in the human forms of our church body that we’ve lost sight of those who are wandering in the wilderness, easy prey for the wild animals of our worldly lusts. I take solace in the promise that the Lord’s Shepherd is out looking for us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As the evidence accumulates on the Follieri/Galante church-for-beach-house developer scandal, it’s become something of a parlor game around the kitchen table to speculate on who will play all the characters in the upcoming mini-series. It’s only a matter of time really. We’ve got a glam Eurotrash huckster, a Hollywood actress, the Sopranos-like mob vice president, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="float: right; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px;"><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2672198286_30fd0437e0_m.jpg?resize=200%2C191" width="200" height="191"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/Lawandorder01.jpg/230px-Lawandorder01.jpg" width="230" height="191"></span>As the evidence accumulates on the <a href="http://www.savestmarys.net/2008/07/bishop-galante-and-follieri.html">Follieri/Galante church-for-beach-house developer scandal</a>, it’s become something of a parlor game around the kitchen table to speculate on who will play all the characters in the upcoming mini-series. It’s only a matter of time really. We’ve got a glam Eurotrash huckster, a Hollywood actress, the Sopranos-like mob vice president, Bill Clinton shady dealings with his all-but-pedophile drinking buddies–and of course the Diocese of Camden’s Bishop Galante and at least one diocesan priest with a fondness for playing dress-up. It will only become more truth-is-stranger-than-fiction when a few more details work their way from open secret to FBI documentation and NY Post headlines. </p>
<p>So while it’s not a surprise, there is a certain satisfaction in the latest media rumor that “Law &amp; Order” is planning one of their classic “ripped from the headlines” <a href="http://www.popcrunch.com/raffaello-follieri-anne-hathaway-law-order-episode/">dramatization of the scandal:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raffaello’s arrest was and still is the buzz in New York City’s social circles.…He was the ultimate con man; handsome, rich, smooth and with a celebrity girlfriend to make him seem legit. I’m sure this will be the highest-rated Law &amp; Order episode next season.</p></blockquote>
<p>There’s enough angles to this story to fill an entire season of television so we don’t know how prominent the Bishop’s part will be. But L&amp;O creator Dick Wolf grew up an altar boy at St. Patrick’s cathedral in New York and the L&amp;O costume department has more clerical outfits that Raffaello Follieri’s closet. Wolf rarely misses the chance to throw a priest into the script. Whole seasons of the show were devoted to ripped-from-the-headlines pieces on the priest/bishop sex abuse scandal in the early 2000s and I’m sure a follow-up look at the web of financial fraud fueled (or at least justified) by the settlement payouts would be a big ratings hit.</p>
<p>I just wish <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennie_Briscoe">Lennie Briscoe</a> was still around to make the collar. BOMP BOMP.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s been a fascinating education learning about institutional Catholicism these past few weeks. I won’t reveal how and what I know, but I think I have a good picture of the culture inside the bishop’s inner circle and I’m pretty sure I understand his long-term agenda. The current lightening-fast closure of sixty-some churches is the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s been a fascinating education learning about institutional Catholicism these past few weeks. I won’t reveal how and what I know, but I think I have a good picture of the culture inside the bishop’s inner circle and I’m pretty sure I understand his long-term agenda. The current lightening-fast closure of sixty-some churches is the first step of an ambitious plan; manufactured priest shortages and soon-to-be overcrowded churches will be used to justify even more radical changes. In about twenty years time, the 125 churches that exist today will have been sold off. What’s left of a half million faithful will be herded into a dozen or so mega-churches, with theology borrowed from generic liberalism, style from feel-good evangelicalism, and organization from consultant culture.</p>
<p>When diocesan officials come by to read this blog (and they do now), they will smile at that last sentence and nod their heads approvingly. The conspiracy is real.</p>
<p>But I don’t want to talk about Catholicism again. Let’s talk Quakers instead, why not? I should be in some meeting for worship right now anyway. Julie left Friends and returned to the faith of her upbringing after eleven years with us because she wanted a religious community that shared a basic faith and that wasn’t afraid to talk about that faith as a corporate “we.” It seems that Catholicism won’t be able to offer that in a few years. Will she run then run off to the Eastern Orthodox church? For that matter should I be running off to the Mennonites? See though, the problem is that the same issues will face us wherever we try to go. It’s modernism, baby. No focused and authentic faith seems to be safe from the Forces of the Bland. Lord help us.</p>
<p>We can blog the questions of course. Why would someone who dislikes Catholic culture and wants to dismantle its infrastructure become a priest and a career bureaucrat? For that matter why do so many people want to call themselves Quakers when they can’t stand basic Quaker theology? If I wanted lots of comments I could go on blah-blah-blah, but ultimately the question is futile and beyond my figuring.</p>
<p>Another piece to this issue came in some questions Wess Daniels sent around to me and a few others this past week in preparation for his <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2008/05/21/presenting-on-convergent-friends-at-fahe-in-june/">upcoming presentation at Woodbrooke</a>. He asked about how a particular Quaker institution did or did not represent or might or might not be able to contain the so-called “Convergent” Friends movement. I don’t want to bust on anyone so I won’t name the organization. Let’s just say that like pretty much all Quaker bureaucracies it’s inward-focused, shallow in its public statements, slow to take initiative and more or less irrelevant to any campaign to gather a great people. A more successful Quaker bureaucracy I could name seems to be doing well in fundraising but is doing less and less with more and more staff and seems more interested in donor-focused hype than long-term program implementation.</p>
<p>One enemy of the faith is bureaucracy. Real leadership has been replaced by consultants and fundraisers. Financial and staffing crises–real and created–are used to justify a watering down of the message. Programs are driven by donor money rather than clear need and when real work might require controversy, it’s tabled for the facade of feel-goodism. Quaker readers who think I’m talking about Quakers: no I’m talking about Catholics. Catholic readers who think I’m talking about Catholics: no, I’m talking about Quakers. My point is that these forces are tearing down religiosity all over. Some cheer this development on. I think it’s evil at work, the Tempter using our leader’s desires for position and respect and our the desires of our laity’s (for lack of a better word) to trust and think the best of its leaders.</p>
<p>So where does that leave us? I’m tired of thinking that maybe if I try one more Quaker meeting I’ll find the community where I can practice and deepen my faith as a Christian Friend. I’m stumped. That first batch of Friends knew this feeling: Fox and the Peningtons and all the rest talked about isolation and about religious professionals who were in it for the career. I know from the blogosphere and from countless one-on-one conversations that there are a lot of us–a lot–who either drift away or stay in meetings out of a sense of guilt.</p>
<p>So what would a spiritual community for these outsider Friends look like? If we had real vision rather than donor vision, what would our structures look like? If we let the generic churches go off to out-compete one other to see who can be the blandest, what would be left for the rest of us to do?</p>
<p><a href="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/20080608-xcjchpscnwekhsh85kg2hr7nbf.preview.jpg?ssl=1"><img data-recalc-dims="1" loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/20080608-xcjchpscnwekhsh85kg2hr7nbf.preview.jpg?resize=300%2C225&#038;ssl=1" alt="20080608-xcjchpscnwekhsh85kg2hr7nbf.preview" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-37562" srcset="https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/20080608-xcjchpscnwekhsh85kg2hr7nbf.preview.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.quakerranter.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/20080608-xcjchpscnwekhsh85kg2hr7nbf.preview.jpg?w=380&amp;ssl=1 380w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px"></a>I guess this last paragraph is the new revised mission statement for the Quaker part of this blog. Okay kids, get a step stool, go to your meeting library, reach up high, clear away the dust and pull out volume one of “A portraiture of Quakerism: Taken from a view of the education and discipline, social manners, civil and political economy, religious principles and character, of the Society of Friends” by Thomas Clarkson. Yes the 1806 version, stop the grumbling. Get out the ribbed packing tape and put its cover back together–this isn’t the frigging Library of Congress and we’re actually going to read this thing. Don’t even waste your time checking it out in the meeting’s logbook: no one’s pulled it down off the shelf in fifty years and no one’s going to miss it now. Really stuck?, okay <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=aTc3AAAAMAAJ">Google’s got it too. </a>Class will start shortly.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve been busy with work lately and much of my free time has been spent helping Julie and the Savestmarys.net coalition. St. Mary’s is one of about sixty South Jersey Catholic churches the bishop is trying to close down and replace with smily happy Megachurches. I’m still not going Catholic on you all, I just [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been busy with work lately and much of my free time has been spent helping Julie and the <a href="http://www.savestmarys.net/">Savestmarys.net</a> coalition. St. Mary’s is one of about sixty South Jersey Catholic churches the bishop is trying to close down and replace with smily happy Megachurches. I’m still not going Catholic on you all, I just don’t like short-sighted religious bureaucrats with secret agendas, and I like places and people and churches with roots and history.</p>
<p>On Tuesday night <a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=bishop+galante&amp;scoring=d">Bishop Galante</a> and his posse came to visit St Mary’s and were greeted by an overflow crowd. He came with charts and a game show host of a priest for MC who tried to start the meeting with a pasted-on smile and crowd-control speaking rules. The St Mary’s parishioners were having none of it. There were over five hundred people in the pews asking why the Bishop wanted to shut down a church with sound finances, an impassioned priest, an involved laity and the wherewithal to continue another hundreds years.</p>
<p> “Vibrant” has become the Bishop’s stock answer, his new favorite code word. Like a President backpedaling on the rationales of an unpopular war, his spokespeople have admitted under pressure of evidence and easy solutions that the closures aren’t due to a priest shortage,&nbsp; financial problems at the targeted churches, or the lack of lay participation and involvement. The only explanation the bishop can offer for closure is “vibrancy.” But every time he tries to define “vibrant” he ends up describing St. Mary’s and dozens of other local churches he wants to close.</p>
<p>There’s obviously more to the definition than he’d like to share. One parishioner asked whether he thought a small church was even capable of displaying the “vibrancy” he demands. He refused to answer, which suggests we’ve finally dug down to a real answer. His fix for South Jersey is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megachurch">Megachurches</a> that cop strategies from the Evangelical movement and consolidate power more closely in the diocesan offices.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The bishop gave the church-saving movement its best metaphor when he disparaged the little churches he wants to shutter as “Wawa churches.” Readers from outside the Mid-Atlantic region might know that Wawa is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawa_Food_Markets">local convenience store chain</a> but that’s like saying water is a common chemical compound. You can’t drive more than twenty minutes without passing three Wawas. South Jersians practically live there. The bishop might was well condemn motherhood, baseball and apple pie if he’s going to take on South Jersey’s Wawa.</p>
<p>One disgruntled “Catholic in name only” campaign supporter rose to reclaim the Wawa label, saying that all these little churches were indeed like Wawa: ubiquitous, open at all hours, with good food that brought people in. The bishop obviously prefers the Walmart model: big box, big parking lot, hidden Eucharists, gameshow-host priests and clowns for music directors (seriously: <a href="http://www.savestmarys.net/2008/05/naples-fl-golf-capital-of-the.html">check out this post of Julie’s</a> and scroll down to the Greatest American Hero dude). I’m not sure why someone who dislikes Catholic culture so much would want to become a priest and I’m really not sure why someone who dislikes South Jersey culture so much would agree to be its bishop. One blogger <a href="http://marsalive.blogspot.com/2008/05/camden-diocese-consolidation-another.html">recently wrote</a> “I have gone through enough mergers and consolidations to know one thing<br>
is true: reductions in manpower and assets are made for tighter<br>
control” which sounds like as good an explanation as any other I’ve heard. Power and money: same as it ever was. </p>
<p>I was following the kids around outside for much of what turned into a speak-out session but I got to see twenty seconds of my wife Julie’s testimony on the Fox affiliate’s 10 o’clock news. Julie had THAT LOOK when addressing the bishop. It’s a look I know too well, it’s a look that means “I’m right, I know it, and I’m not backing down.” If I’ve learned anything over the course of the last seven years of marriage it’s that I don’t stand a chance when Julie gives me THAT LOOK: it’s time to concede that yes she is right, because any other option will just prolong the pain and delay the inevitable. I saw hundreds of people giving the bishop that same look last night.</p>
<p>It’s nice to see South Jersey standing up to an outsider who hates its culture and wants to force change for the sake of his own power and profit. We get a lot of it down here. The power guys usually end up winning: the woods get chainsawed and the farmlands buried under vast expanses of generic box stores and cookie-cutter McMansions financed by Philly money and greased by the pro-development laws of North Jersey politicians. I could be wrong, but after this week I don’t think the bishop stands a chance. The question now is how long he’s going to prolong his . And how many churches will he succeed in taking down in the name of “vibrance?”</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess folks might wonder why the son of the Quaker Ranter is getting baptized in a Roman Catholic church… [box]An updated note before I start: I don’t want this to be seen as a critique or put-down of any particular individuals but to point out what seems to me to be a pretty obvious [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess folks might wonder why the son of the Quaker Ranter is getting baptized in a Roman Catholic church…</p>
[box]An updated note before I start: I don’t want this to be seen as a critique or put-down of any particular individuals but to point out what seems to me to be a pretty obvious larger dynamic within Quakerism: our religious education programs have not been doing a very good job at transmitting our faith to our young people. One measure of such programs is how many children we retain as actively-participating adults; by such measures I think we can say Quakers are failing.
<p>And, a few perhaps obvious disclaimers: 1) there are deeply faithful people who grew up in Young Friends programs; 2) there are religious ed instructors who are worried about the message we’re giving our young people and fret as I do; 3) there are a lot of members of the RSoF who just don’t think teaching distinctly Quaker faithfulness is important and wouldn’t agree that there’s a problem.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s useful to read this without also looking to my early article, <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation">The Lost Quaker Generation</a>, which mourns the friends I’ve seen drop out of Quakerism (many of them “birthright,” i.e., born into Quaker families), and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/11/were_all_ranters_now_on_libera/">We’re all Ranters Now</a>, which argues that our society of seekers needs to become a society of finders if we are to be able to articulate a faith to transmit.<br>
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</p><p>On June 30, 2000, Julie and I met at a national gathering of Quakers. Fourteen months later we were married at the Woodstown Friends Meetinghouse under the care of the Atlantic City Area Friends Meeting. Roughly fourteen months later, when the sparkles in our eyes were meeting with an approving nod from God and our baby was conceived, I was co-clerk of <a href="http://www.acquakers.org">Atlantic City Area Meeting</a> and Julie was clerk of its Outreach Committee. Ten months later, <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_kelley/438069823/_">our infant son Theo was baptized</a> at Mater Ecclesiae Roman Catholic Church in Berlin, N.J. It’s Julie’s new church; I myself remain Quaker, but without a Meeting I can quite call home. What happened?</p>
<p>I don’t want to try to speak for Julie and why she left Friends to return to the faith she was brought up in. But I do have to testify that the reverence, spirit and authenticity of the worship at Mater Ecclesiae is deeper than that in most Friends Meetinghouses. It’s a church with a lot of members who seem to believe in the real presence of Christ. A disclaimer that Mater Ecclesiae is unusual, one of the few churches in the country that uses the traditional <a href="http://www.materecclesiae.org/rite">Tridentine Mass</a> or Roman Rite, and that it attracts ardent followers who have self-selected themselves, in that they’re not going to their local parish church. I don’t think it’s the Catholicism alone that draws Julie–I think the purposefulness of the worshipers is a large piece. Despite all the distractions (chants, Latin, rote confessions of faith: I’m speaking as a Friend), the worship there is unusually gathered. But more: there’s a groundedness to the faith. In a one-on-one conversation the priest explained to me the ways he thought Quakerism was wrong. I wasn’t offended–quite the contrary, I loved it! It was so refreshing to meet someone who believed what he believed, (Hey, if I didn’t believe in the <a href="http://www.strecorsoc.org/gfox/ch14.html">degeneration of the Roman Catholic Church</a> or the empty professions of <a href="http://chaucer.library.emory.edu/cgi-bin/sgml2html/wwrp.pl?act=text&amp;f=%2Fdata%2Fwomen_writers%2Fdata%2FQuaker.sgm&amp;offset=2407&amp;len=87676&amp;prior=0&amp;next=1&amp;endpos=83627&amp;elmt=DIV1&amp;t=Introduction-%20%20Introduction%20to%20A%20Testimony%20for%20Truth%20against%20all%20Hireling-Priests%20and%20Deceivers%20.%20.%20.%20.%20%20%201655%3B%20%20A%20Warning%20to%20all%20Friends%20who%20Professeth%20the%20Everlasting%20Truth%20.%20.%20.%20.%20%20">hireling priests</a>, I might join him. I also feel comfortable predicting that he would welcome my jousting here.)</p>
<p>What I can talk about is my misgivings about the prospect of raising up Theo as a Quaker in Philadelphia Yearly Meeting. The weakest element of the Religious Society of Friends is its children’s religious education. This is something I’ve seen manifested in two different kinds of ways: content and results.</p>
<p>Quakers have remarkably few expectations of their children. It’s considered remarkable if older children spend a whole ten minutes in Meeting for Worship (I’ve heard adult birthright Friends boast that they’ve never sat through a whole hour of Quaker worship). Quakers are obsessed about listening to what children have to say, and so never share with them what they believe. I’ve known adults birthright Friends who have never had conversations with their parents about the basis of their faith.</p>
<p>Quaker religious education programs often forgo teaching traditional Quaker faith and practice for more faddish beliefs. The basement walls of the Philadelphia Yearly Meeting youth center is painted over with dancing gods, while of the big events of the Young Friends’ annual calendar is a “Quaker sweat lodge”. A culture of touch and physicality (“cuddle puddles”, backrubs) is thought charming and immodest dress is considered a sign of rebellious individuality. Quaker schools publish brochures saying Meeting for Worship is all about “thinking, with God given little notice.” When Quakers want to have “intergenerational” worship, they feel they have to program it with some sort of attention-keeping playtime activity (Mater Ecclesiae echoes Quaker tradition here: “intergenerational” means children sitting through and participating in Mass with the adults).</p>
<p>Too many of the people my age and Julie’s who were brought up at Friends are ignorant of basic Quaker beliefs and are unaware of Quaker traditions (FUM, EFI, Conservatives) outside the easy-going East Coast liberalism they were raised in. For them being a Friend is acting a certain way, believing a certain brand of political philosophy and being part of a certain social group. Too many Young Adult Friends I’ve known over the years are cliquish, irreligious, and have more than their share of issues around intimacy and sexuality.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong: these kids are often really good people, children to be proud of, doing great things in the world. Many of them are open-hearted, spiritually-sensitive, and in deeply grounded relationships. But only a very few are practicing Quakers. And when I look at the religious education they get, I can’t say I’m surprised. If I were to raise Theo as a Quaker, I would have to “home school” him away from most of the religious education programs offered locally. When all the kids scramble out of worship after ten minutes I’d have to say “no” and tell him to keep sitting–how weird would that be?</p>
<p>Theo has a better chance of sharing the traditional Quaker values of the presence of Christ, of Holy Obedience, and of bearing the cross by being raised as a Catholic in a traditionalist church. It’s more likely he’ll turn out Quaker if he’s baptised at Mater Ecclesiae. Julie and I will be teaching him reverence by example. I’ll share my Quaker faith with him. I’m sure he’ll participate in Quaker events, but consciously, selectively, guardedly (in the old Quaker sense).</p>
<p>If Friends believe they have a faith worth holdling, they should also believe they have a faith worth passing on. Do we?</p>
<h2>Related Reading</h2>
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<li>Beckey Phipps conducted a series of interviews that touched on many of these issues and published it in <em>FGConnections</em>. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20030907105123/http://fgcquaker.org/library/ministry/re-for-21st.html">FGC Religious Education: Lessons for the 21st Century</a> asks many of the right questions. My favorite line: “It is the most amazing thing, all the kids that I know that have gone into [Quaker] leadership programs–they’ve disappeared.”</li>
<li>I touch on these issues from the other side in <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/the_lost_quaker_generation/">The Lost Quaker Generation</a>, which is about the twenty- and thirty-something Friends that have drifted away</li>
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