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		<title>Michael Jay on Cost of Compromise</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lessons from 1842, when Indiana Friends were torn between antislavery and partisanship. I’m starting to wonder if it’s time to revisit that 19th century advice, and step back. I’ve seen too much of the corrupting influence of partisanship. I’ve seen too many arguments from people who know better about which people are not really people. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>I’m starting to wonder if it’s time to revisit that 19th century advice, and step back. I’ve seen too much of the corrupting influence of partisanship. I’ve seen too many arguments from people who know better about which people are not really people. I’ve too many friends who have become political arguments which do not respect their humanity.</p>
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		<title>Has Christ come to teach his people himself?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Johan Maurer looks at one of our most-used George Fox quotes and wonders whether we’re using it authentically: Has Christ come to teach his people himself? I want us to use our dearest cliches honestly, but if they sometimes seem weakened by overuse, the solution isn’t necessarily to discard them. Maybe we can rediscover their [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johan Maurer looks at one of our most-used George Fox quotes and wonders whether we’re using it authentically: <a href="https://blog.canyoubelieve.me/2018/04/has-christ-come-to-teach-his-people.html">Has Christ come to teach his people himself?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I want us to use our dearest cliches honestly, but if they sometimes seem weakened by overuse, the solution isn’t necessarily to discard them. Maybe we can rediscover their provocative content and test whether the promise within is already being fulfilled or could once again be fulfilled in our time.</p>
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<p>I appreciate that Johan also asks if we’re hoarding this insight and claiming it as particularly Quaker. One of my personal tests for adopting Quaker peculiarities of practice or belief is whether I could argue that they should be adopted by other Christians (or even other people of faith in general) as universal principles. An attitude of plainness not based on social pressures or uniforms is one I think would bring humility and insight to any follower of Christ, for example.</p>
<p>That Christ has risen and is here and is ready to guide us directly seems to be an obvious truth–the heart of the resurrection and of Pentecost and the apostles’ church plants. That some churches insert people in between is a potential distraction but even they would, I hope, keep in mind that Christ is there with them in their steeple houses and in their lives.</p>
<p>The only other take-away I have from this universality test is that it centers the Inward Christ and risen Jesus and not our human institutions. This was the obvious point in the 1650s as Quakers broke up religious meetings and I think it still holds true. Our libraries and meetinghouses and mission statements and staff flowcharts don’t mean anything if they get in the way of the purpose of our society, which is simply to help one another settle down, recognize that Inward Christ, and learn the corporate skills discernment so we can be Friends (of Jesus). The invitation to knock on Jesus’s door is extended to all, not just those of us calling ourselves Quaker.</p>
<p>https://blog.canyoubelieve.me/2018/04/has-christ-come-to-teach-his-people.html</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once a month I’m doing flashbacks to past eras in my blog. One Year Ago: November 2016 A year ago the shock to the system was Trump’s election. One reaction of mine was a promise to blog more; I set up the system but I’m still not as frictionless about it as I’d like. Waking [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once a month I’m doing flashbacks to past eras in my blog. </p>
<h3>One Year Ago: November 2016</h3>
<p>A year ago the shock to the system was Trump’s election. One reaction of mine was a promise to blog more; I set up the system but I’m still not as frictionless about it as I’d like. </p>
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<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/waking-up-to-president-trump/">Waking Up to President Trump</a>: We do not get to choose our era or the chal­lenges it throws at us. Only some­one with his­tor­i­cal amne­sia would say this is unprece­dent­ed in our his­to­ry. The enslave­ment of mil­lions and the geno­cide of mil­lions more are dark stains indeli­bly soaked into the very found­ing of the nation. But much will change, par­tic­u­lar­ly our naiv­i­ty and false opti­mism in an inevitable for­ward progress of our nation­al sto­ry.
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<h3>Five Years Ago: November 2012</h3>
<p>Five years ago I wrote about how I had been blogging for fifteen years. Do the math: it’s now 20 frigging years since I started blogging.</p>
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<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/fifteen-years-of-blogging/">Fifteen Years of Blogging</a>: I&nbsp;keep double-checking the math but it keeps adding up. In Novem­ber 1997 I&nbsp;added a&nbsp;fea­ture to my two-year-old peace web­site. I&nbsp;called this new enti­ty Non­vi­o­lence Web Upfront and updat­ed it week­ly with orig­i­nal fea­tures and curat­ed links to the best online paci­fist writ­ing. I&nbsp;wrote a&nbsp;ret­ro­spec­tive of the “ear­ly blog­ging days” in 2005 that talks about how it came about and gives some con­text about the proto-blogs hap­pen­ing back in&nbsp;1997.
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<h3>Ten Years Ago: November 2007</h3>
<p>Freelancing and working the overnight shift at Shoprite, I wondered if my Quakerness was hopelessly useless to my new circumstances.</p>
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<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/who_are_we_part_one_just_what/">Who are we part one (just what pamphlet do I&nbsp;give the tattooed ex-con?)</a>: I&nbsp;love the fel­low who gave the mes­sage and I&nbsp;appre­ci­at­ed his min­istry. But the whole time I&nbsp;won­dered how this would sound to peo­ple I&nbsp;know now, like the friend­ly but hot-tempered Puer­to Rican ex-con less than a&nbsp;year out of a&nbsp;eight-year stint in fed­er­al prison, now work­ing two eight hour shifts at almost-minimum wage jobs and try­ing to stay out of trou­ble. How does the the­o­ry of our the­ol­o­gy fit into a&nbsp;code of con­duct that doesn’t start off assum­ing mid­dle class norms.
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<h3>Twenty Years Ago: November 1997</h3>
<p>Four years before 9/11, I was asking how we could break the cycle of terrorism.</p>
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<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/how-come-the-u-s-trains-all-the-terrorists/">How Come the U.S. Trains All the Terrorists?</a>: It would seem a&nbsp;sim­ple case of U.S. mil­i­tarism com­ing home to roost, but it is not so sim­ple and it is not uncom­mon. Fol­low most trails of ter­ror­ism and you’ll find Unit­ed States gov­ern­ment fund­ing some­where in the recent past.
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the quiet on the blog front. I’ve been busy, busy. My Second Month has seen an FGC committee meeting in Greensboro, the “Food for Fire” Powell House weekend and a deadline for the Gathering Advance Program. I’m sure I’ll be more talkative soon, promise promise. In the meantime, I’m online in another realm. [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the quiet on the blog front. I’ve been busy, busy. My Second Month has seen an FGC committee meeting in Greensboro, the “Food for Fire” Powell House weekend and a deadline for the Gathering Advance Program. I’m sure I’ll be more talkative soon, promise promise.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I’m online in another realm. Mia Consiglieri Joe G interviewed me for Beppepodcast #24: “Martin Kelley, Quaker Blog Father”:http://beppeblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/beppepodcast-24-martin-kelley-quaker.html (“subscription here”:http://beppe.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=62209). Molto buon, il mio figlio. Bello! Bello!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More on the “myth that is ‘Private Jessica’&#160;”:www.guardian.co.uk/iraq/Story/0,2763,1081207,00.html, a media creation born of propaganda and racism. I feel sad for the real Jessica Lynch caught up in all this. elsewhere Paul Krugman point out how the Bush Administration isn’t “supporting the troops”:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/11/opinion/11KRUG.html, “But I also suspect that a government of, by and for the economic [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the “myth that is ‘Private Jessica’&nbsp;”:www.guardian.co.uk/iraq/Story/0,2763,1081207,00.html, a media creation born of propaganda and racism. I feel sad for the real Jessica Lynch caught up in all this. elsewhere Paul Krugman point out how the Bush Administration isn’t “supporting the troops”:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/11/opinion/11KRUG.html, “But I also suspect that a government of, by and for the economic elite is having trouble overcoming its basic lack of empathy with the working-class men and women who make up our armed forces.”</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Bruderhof magazine, an “interview with actor Martin Sheen”:www.bruderhof.com/articles/sheen.htm?source=DailyDig. It’s a profile that focuses not only on his acting fame or activist causes but on his religious faith and how it underpins the rest of his life. Read, for instance, Sheen on civil disobedience: bq. It is one of the only tools that is [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Bruderhof magazine, an “interview with actor Martin Sheen”:www.bruderhof.com/articles/sheen.htm?source=DailyDig.  It’s a profile that focuses not only on his acting fame or activist causes but on his religious faith and how it underpins the rest of his life. Read, for instance, Sheen on civil disobedience:<br>
bq. It is one of the only tools that is available to us where you can express a deeply personal, deeply moral opinion and be held accountable. You have to be prepared for the consequences. I honestly do not know if civil disobedience has any effect on the government. I can promise you it has a great effect on the person who chooses to do it.<br>
Sheen’s radical Catholic faith is not a superficial confession that provides him with a place to go on Sunday morning, and it’s not passive identity from which to do political organizing. Rather, it’s a relationship with God and truth that demands witness and sacrifice and suffering. It’s the faith of someone who has personally gone through the depths of spiritual hedonism, and who has watched his country become the “most confused, warped, addicted society,” and who has found only God left standing:<br>
bq. God has not abandoned us. I don’t know what other force to appeal to other than almighty God, I really don’t.<br>
I could quote him for hours, but read the interview.</p>
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