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		<title>In defense of Quaker media</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2019 03:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I gather that the Quaker Facebook group is going through one of its regular debates about identity and tone and moderation. The problem is Facebook. It is the most direct competitor of Quaker-produced media. Its algorithms and moderator tools are not designed for the kind of considered, inclusive, Spirit-led, and non-reactive discourse that is Quaker [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gather that the Quaker Facebook group is going through one of its regular debates about identity and tone and moderation. The problem is Facebook. It is the most direct competitor of Quaker-produced media. Its algorithms and moderator tools are not designed for the kind of considered, inclusive, Spirit-led, and non-reactive discourse that is Quaker style at its ideal (yes, we blow it ourselves constantly but hopefully keep striving).</p>
<p>I posted there tonight suggesting that Friends consider a media diet that includes more Quaker media—books and magazines and blogs and videos and in-real-life discussion opportunities. I worry that if Facebook groups become the most visible style of Quaker dialogue, then we will have lost something truly precious.</p>
<p>This message isn’t new to longtime readers of QuakerRanter. I extolled blogging as a <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/hey-yall-lets-start-a-blog/">hedge against Facebook</a>just yesterday and in August I wrote about some of the dialogue problems <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/facebook-superposters-and-the-loss-of-our-own-narrative/">inherent in the Facebook model</a>.</p>
<p>I’ve been figuring out Facebook strategies for Quaker media since it opened up to non-students circa 2006. I appreciate much of the attention it’s provided over the years. Social media like YouTube has also been a useful platform for things like the <a href="http://www.quakerspeak.com">Quakerspeak project</a>despite owner Google’s spotty track record. But it’s becoming hard to deny that social media has reshaped the style of civil discourse and trollish hackery, mostly for the worse. I think it’s really essential that we become more conscious of the sources of our daily media diet.</p>
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		<title>Facebook superposters and the loss of our own narrative</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the NYTimes, a fascinating piece on filter bubbles and the ability of Facebook “superposters” to dominate feeds, distort reality, and promote paranoia and violence. Superposters tend to be “more opinionated, more extreme, more engaged, more everything,” said Andrew Guess, a Princeton University social scientist. When more casual users open Facebook, often what they see [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the NYTimes, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/world/europe/facebook-refugee-attacks-germany.html">a fascinating piece on filter bubbles</a> and the ability of Facebook “superposters” to dominate feeds, distort reality, and promote paranoia and violence.</p>
<blockquote><p>Superposters tend to be “more opinionated, more extreme, more engaged, more everything,” said Andrew Guess, a Princeton University social scientist. When more casual users open Facebook, often what they see is a world shaped by superposters like Mr. Wasserman. Their exaggerated worldviews play well on the algorithm, allowing them to collectively — and often unknowingly — dominate newsfeeds. “That’s something special about Facebook,” Dr. Paluck said. “If you end up getting a lot of time on the feed, you are influential. It’s a difference with real life.”</p></blockquote>
<p>A great many general-interest Facebook groups that I see are dominated by trollish people whose visibility relies on how provocative they can get without being banned. This is true in many Quaker-focused groups. Facebook prioritizes engagement and nothing seems to get our fingers madly tapping more than provocation by someone half-informed.</p>
<p>Formal membership in a Quaker meeting is a considered process; for many Quaker groups, public ministry is also a deliberated process, with clearness committees, anchor committees, etc. On Facebook, membership consists of clicking a like button; public ministry, aka visibility, is a matter of having a lot of time to post comments. Public groups with minimal moderation which run on Facebook’s engagement-inducing algorithms are the public face of Friends these days, far more visible than any publication or recognized Quaker body’s Facebook presence. I <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/who-tells-our-story/">written before of my long-term worry</a> that with the rise of social media gatekeeping sites, we’re not the ones writing our story anymore.</p>
<p>I don’t have any answers. But the NYTimes piece helped give me some useful ways of thinking about these phenomena.</p>
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		<title>The open (Quaker) web</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Hardie’s semi-viral manifesto championing the open internet isn’t about Quakerism per se, but Chris is a Friend (and one time web host to everything Quaker within a hundred miles of Richmond, Ind.). Since the rise of corporate gate-keeping websites and then social media, I’ve worried that they represent some of the largest and least [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Hardie’s semi-viral manifesto <a href="https://chrishardie.com/2018/04/rebuilding-open-web/">championing the open internet</a> isn’t about Quakerism per se, but Chris is a Friend (and one time web host to everything Quaker within a hundred miles of Richmond, Ind.). Since the rise of corporate gate-keeping websites and then social media, I’ve worried that they represent some of the largest and least visible threats to the Quaker movement.</p>
<p>I use it all as a tool, for sure. But there are many ways in which we’re increasingly defined by corporations with no Quakers and no interest in us except for whatever engagement numbers they can generate. Look at the nonsense at many of the open Quaker Facebook groups as an obvious example. People with limited experience or knowledge and relatively fringe ideas can easily dominate discussion just by posting with a frequency that involved or careful Friends couldn’t match. Facebook doesn’t care if it’s a zoo as long as people come back to read the latest outrageous comment thread. Just because the topic is Quaker doesn’t mean the discourse really holds well to our values, historical or modern.</p>
<p>Add to this that Google and Facebook could make any of our Quaker-owned websites nearly invisible with a tweak of algorithms (this is not hypothetical: Facebook has dinged most publisher Pages over the years).</p>
<p>The open web has a lot of pluses. I’m glad to see a Friend among its prominent champions and I’d like to see Quaker readers seeking it out more (most easily by straying of Facebook and subscribing to blogs’ email lists). From Hardie:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course, there is an alternative to Facebook and other walled gardens: the open web. The alternative is the version of the Internet where you own your content and activity, have minimal dependence on third party business models, can discover new things outside of what for-profit algorithms show you, and where tools and services interact to enhance each other’s offerings, instead of to stamp each other out of existence.</p></blockquote>
<p>https://chrishardie.com/2018/04/rebuilding-open-web/amp/?__twitter_impression=true</p>
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