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		<title>Predictions on the ‘new evangelical’ movement</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Readers over on QuakerQuaker.org will know I’ve been interested in the tempest surrounding evangelical pastor Rob Bell. A popular minister for the Youtube generation, controversy over his new book has revealed some deep fissures among younger Evangelical Christians. I’ve been fascinated by this since 2003, when I started realizing I had a lot of commonalities [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers over on QuakerQuaker.org will know I’ve been <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/robbell">interested in the tempest</a> surrounding evangelical pastor <a href="http://www.robbell.com">Rob Bell</a>. A popular minister for the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nooma&amp;aq=f">Youtube generation</a>, controversy over his new book has revealed some deep fissures among younger Evangelical Christians. I’ve been <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2003/09/emergent_church_movement_the_y/">fascinated by this since 2003</a>, when I started realizing I had a lot of commonalities with mainstream Christian bloggers who I would have naturally dismissed out of hand. When they wrote about the authenticity of worship, decision-making in the church and the need to walk the talk and also to walk the line between truth and compassion, they spoke to my concerns (most of my reading since then has been blogs, pre-twentieth century Quaker writings and the <a href="http://www.oneyearbibleblog.com/">Bible</a>).</p>
<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/www.martinkelley.com/skitch/http__rachelheldevans.com_-20110324-192028.png?w=640" alt align="right">Today <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/jrobjohn">Jaime Johnson</a> tweeted out a link to a new piece by Rachel Held Evans called “The Future of Evangelicalism.” She does a nice job parsing out the differences between the two camps squaring off over Rob Bell. On the one side is a centralized movement of neo-Calvinists she calls Young, Restless, Reformed after a <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/september/42.32.html">2006 Christianity Today article</a>. I have little to no interest in this crowd except for mild academic curiosity. But the other side is what she’s dubbing&nbsp;“the new evangelicals”:</p>
<blockquote><p>The second group—sometimes referred to as “the new evangelicals” or “emerging evangelicals” or “the evangelical left” is significantly less organized than the first, but continues to grow at a grassroots level.  As Paul Markhan wrote in an excellent <a href="http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2010/2010-14.html">essay about the phenomenon</a>, young people who identify with this movement have grown weary of evangelicalism’s allegiance to Republican politics, are interested in pursuing social reform and social justice, believe that the gospel has as much to do with this life as the next, and are eager to be a part of inclusive, diverse, and authentic Christian communities.  “Their broadening sense of social responsibility is pushing them to rethink many of the fundamental theological presuppositions characteristic of their evangelical traditions,” Markham noted.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the group that intrigues me. There’s a lot of cross-over here with some of what I’m seeing with Quakers. In an ideal world, the Religious Society of Friends would open its arms to this new wave of seekers, especially as they hit the limits of denominational tolerance. But in reality, many of the East Coast meetings I’m most familiar with wouldn’t know what to do with this crowd. In Philly if you’re interested in this conversation you go to&nbsp;<a href="http://circleofhope.net/Jesus/">Circle of Hope</a> (<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/?s=circle+of+hope">previous posts</a>), not any of the established Quaker meetings.</p>
<p>Evans makes some educated guesses about the future of the “new evangelical” movement. She thinks there will be more discussion about the role of the Bible, though I would say it’s more discussion fo the various Christian interpretations of it. She also foresees a loosening of labels and denominational affiliations. I’m seeing some of this happening among Friends, though it’s almost completely on the individual level, at least here on the East Coast. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out over the next few years and whether it will bypass, engage with or siphon off the Society of Friends. In the meantime, Evans’ post and the links she embeds in it are well worth exploring.</p>
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		<title>Sightings: Quaker Families, Friends Leadership and In-Group Dynamics</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Hoopes: Young Families and Quakerism: Will the Center Hold? Young families need Quakerism, and Quakerism needs young families. Where does the Religious Society of Friends stand in relation to today’s “beleaguered moms and dads”? To the extent that Quaker culture has not intentionally organized itself around the needs of young families, many people of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://www.friendsjournal.org/young-families-and-quakerism-will-center-hold">Tom Hoopes: Young Families and Quakerism: Will the Center Hold?</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">Young families need Quakerism, and Quakerism needs young families. Where does the Religious Society of Friends stand in relation to today’s “beleaguered moms and dads”? To the extent that Quaker culture has not intentionally organized itself around the needs of young families, many people of my life stage have opted out of participation in organized Quakerism. We know this from research as well as experientially, as many Friends’ own adult children–and therefore their grandchildren –are not active in a meeting community.</p>
<p class="diigo-tags"><span>tags:</span> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker">quaker</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.youth">quaker.youth</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.community">quaker.community</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.parenting">quaker.parenting</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.philadelphia">quaker.philadelphia</a></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/plain/forum/topics/separation-interior-plainness">Karen Mercer: Separation &amp; Interior Plainness</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">For myself, I have found that I lost interest in or disliked many things over the years. I avoid a lot of entertainments because I find them overstimulating, they are too loud, too frantic and too full of events designed to provoke physiological arousal. More recently I find the amount of rudeness, violence and sexuality disturbing. I am left feeling exhausted but restless</p>
<p class="diigo-tags"><span>tags:</span> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker">quaker</a></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://lambswar.blogspot.com/2011/02/mighty-fortress-is-our-meeting.html">Micah Bales: Is Meeting “a place for good people like us”</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">The kids who remained part of the Meeting’s youth group tended to be ones who struggled to find their place in other areas of their lives.&nbsp;Through a set of shared rituals — jazz hands, cuddle puddles, and wink — and shared cultural assumptions and behaviors, the primary purpose of the Quaker youth community becomes about supporting “people like us”… This in-group dynamic is not limited to the youth.</p>
<p class="diigo-tags"><span>tags:</span> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker">quaker</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.youth">quaker.youth</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.liberal">quaker.liberal</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.baltimore">quaker.baltimore</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.community">quaker.community</a></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://esrquaker.blogspot.com/2011/02/what-does-mean-to-you.html">Jay Marshall: What does “leadership” mean to you?</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">While it is true that leadership can be a troubling concept for Friends, I have come to believe that we should move beyond our old hesitations. We would benefit from fussing less about the things that can go wrong, instead investing time reflecting upon the topic and developing an understanding of leadership that can function well in our context.</p>
<p class="diigo-tags"><span>tags:</span> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker">quaker</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.community">quaker.community</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.indiana">quaker.indiana</a></p>
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<p class="diigo-link"><a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/plain/forum/topics/plain-teenager-perfectly">Clio on QQ: Plain Teenager: Perfectly Possible 🙂</a></p>
<p class="diigo-description">My parents accidentally sent me to a liberal Friends summer camp not expecting me to come back hungry for faith. I missed having meeting every day. I missed the peace I felt in the meeting circle and the connection to God I found there. I used to go during free time to re-center myself and to seek a feeling I got during meeting. The best way to describe it to another person is that I was getting a&nbsp;hug from the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p class="diigo-tags"><span>tags:</span> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker">quaker</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.youth">quaker.youth</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.liberal">quaker.liberal</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.plain">quaker.plain</a> <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley/quaker.newyork">quaker.newyork</a></p>
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<p class="diigo-ps">Posted from <a href="http://www.diigo.com">Diigo</a>. The rest of my favorite links are <a href="http://www.diigo.com/user/martinkelley">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Young Adult Friends Conference in Wichita this Fifth Month</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve been lucky enough to have two houseguests this week: Micah Bales and Faith Kelley (no relation). They’ve come up to the Philadelphia area to help publicize a gathering of young adult Friends that will take place in Wichita in a few months. Before they left, I got them to share their excitement for the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been lucky enough to have two houseguests this week: Micah Bales and Faith Kelley (no relation). They’ve come up to the Philadelphia area to help publicize a gathering of young adult Friends that will take place in Wichita in a few months. Before they left, I got them to share their excitement for the conference in front of my webcam.<br>
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Interview with Faith Kelley &amp; Micah Bales, two of the organizers of the upcoming young adult Friends conference in Wichita Kansas.</p>
<blockquote><p>FAITH: This is an invitation for a gathering for young adult Friends ages 18–35 from all the branches of the Religious Society of Friends from all across the continent. It’s going to be in Wichita Kansas from May 28–31. It’s a time to get together and learn about each other, to hear each other’s stories and worship together. We’re really excited by this opportunity to have people who have never been to these before and to have people who have been to other gatherings to come back.<br>
MICAH: A lot of the advance material is already up online so you can get a good idea what this conference is going to be about and to get a sense of how to prepare yourself for a gathering like this. We’ll be getting together with folks from all over the country, Canada and Mexico–we’re hoping a lot of Hispanic Friends show up and we’ve already translated the website into Spanish. Registration is set up already; early registration goes until April 15. Airfare to Wichita is looking pretty good at the moment; if you register early you’re likely to get a fairly decent plane ticket out.<br>
FAITH: We’re hoping people will choose to carpool together. So get organized, register early and look at the advance materials online.
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<p>FOR MORE INFORMATION:<br>
<a href="http://yaf2010.wordpress.com">2010 Young Adult Friends Conference</a></p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting reading today about how our Quaker structures can choke the Spirit and hem in our communities. Johan M is no stranger to Quaker institutions, but in “Clerk Please” he writes: But who will see and proclaim these things to new audiences if we are so busy trying to sort out our structures, nomination processes, [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading today about how our Quaker structures can choke the Spirit and hem in our communities. Johan M is no stranger to Quaker institutions, but in “<a href="http://johanpdx.blogspot.com/2008/04/clerk-please.html">Clerk Please</a>” he writes:</p>
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<p>But who will see and proclaim these things to new audiences if we are so busy trying to sort out our structures, nomination processes, and interpersonal animosities that we don’t take the time to discern and honor leadings?</p>
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<p>Susanne K echos some of these themes in her latest post, “<a href="http://quakersusanne.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/quakerism-and-structure/">Quakerism and Structure</a>”:</p>
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<p>One of the key parts of George Fox’s revelation was that religious structures can kill the free movement of the Spirit… My Ffriend R has advocated the practice of disbanding the Religious Society of Friends every 50 years. He believes that the spark of the initial vision and passion of religious groups only survives for about 50 years before developing structures start to choke the movement of the Spirit.</p>
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<p>It’s been about eighteen months since I was sidelined from the professional Quaker world (I work for some Quakers now, but on a contract basis and the relationship is much different). A year or two before this, my monthly meeting melted down and more or less devolved into a worship group and while&nbsp;I’ve found a more active meeting to attend, it’s not particularly close and I haven’t joined.</p>
<p>The result of these two changes is that I haven’t sat in a staff meeting for over a year; I don’t attend business meetings; I don’t belong to any committees; I don’t represent any group at conferences. After years of being what <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/twenty_first_century_traveling_ministry_of_uberquakers_selfish_friends_and_the_search_for_unity.php">Evan Welkin called an uberQuaker</a>, I’m an uninvolved slacker. Bad Martin, right?</p>
<p>Except I’m not uninvolved of course. I feel I’m doing as much now to help people find and grow into Quakerism than I did when I was paid to do this. I don’t spend much time with that 2% skim of Quaker elite who attend all the same conferences and appoint each other to all the same committees, but then catering to their needs was pretty high maintenance and was never something I thought of as the real mission.</p>
<p>Suzanne talks about the “Sabbatical Year” meme, and of course lots of electrons fly about the blogosphere about the possibilities of the Emerging Church movement. There’s a hunger for a different way of being a Friend. I know one Quaker who threatens to burn down the famous meetinghouse he worships in because he feels that the building has become an empty icon, a weight of bricks upon the Spirit (I’ll leave him anonymous in case something mysterious happens to the meetinghouse tonight!). How tragic would it be, really, if some of institutional baggage was laid down and we had to find other ways to confirm and support one another’s ministries?</p>
<p>I love teaching Quakerism, I love helping Quakers use the internet for outreach and I love reaching out to potential Friends with my writing. I’m doing all that without committees or staff meetings. No budgets to fight over, no mission statements to write.</p>
<p>Half a decade ago now I wrote about the “lost Quaker generation,” active and visionary Gen X Friends who seemed to be dropping out in droves. We’re all keeping in better touch now via Facebook but I haven’t noticed&nbsp;much jumping back into the fray.&nbsp;What I <em>have </em>noticed is a phenomenon where Friends half a generation older are taking on Quaker responsibilities only to drop away from active meeting involvement when their terms ended.&nbsp;</p>
<p>If we could pull together all of the dropouts together and start meetings that focused on worship, religious education&nbsp;and deep-community activities, I think we’d&nbsp;see something interesting. I envy those with less-musty, Gen‑X heavy meetings nearby (<a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2008/04/where-do-you-see-signs-of-quaker.html">Robin M showcased her meeting recently</a>). And don’t get me wrong:&nbsp;I also love the old Quaker ideal of the strong local Quaker community and the bonds of the community on the individual,&nbsp;etc., etc. But I don’t see meetings&nbsp;like that anywhere nearby and the only clear leading I really have is to continue this “freelance” teaching, writing and organizing. It’s not the situation I want but it’s the situation I have and at this point I have to just trust the leadings as they come step by step and have faith they’re going somewhere. Boy though, I wish I knew where all this was heading sometimes!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For any bleeding edge Web 2.0 Quakers out there, there’s now a QuakerQuaker FriendFeed account to go along with its Twitter account. Both accounts simply spit out the QuakerQuaker RSS feed but there might be some practical uses. I actually follow QQ primary by Twitter these days and those who don’t mind annoying IM pop-ups [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any bleeding edge <a href="http://quakerquaker.org/">Web 2.0 Quakers</a> out there, there’s now a <a href="http://friendfeed.com/quakerquaker">QuakerQuaker FriendFeed </a>account to go along with its <a href="http://twitter.com/quakerquaker">Twitter account</a>. Both accounts simply spit out the QuakerQuaker RSS feed but there might be some practical uses. I actually follow QQ primary by Twitter these days and those who don’t mind annoying IM pop-ups could get instant alerts.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 everywhere man Robert Scoble recently posted that many of his conversations and comments have <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/04/02/how-our-digital-lives-are-spreading-out/">moved away from his blog and over to FriendFeed</a>. I don’t see that occurring anytime soon with QQ but I’ll set the accounts up and see what happens. I’ve hooked my own <a href="http://twitter.com/martin_kelley">Twitter </a>and <a href="http://friendfeed.com/martinkelley">FriendFeed </a>accounts up with QuakerQuaker, so that’s one way I’m cross-linking with this possible overlay of QQ.</p>
<p>For what it’s worth I’ve always assumed that QQ is relatively temporary, an initial meeting ground for a network of online Friends that will continue to expand into different forms. I’m hoping we can pick the best media to use and not just jump on the latest trends. As far as the Religious Society of Friends is concerned, I’d say the two most important tests of a new media is it’s ability to outreach to new people and its utility in helping to construct a shared vision of spiritual renewal.</p>
<p>On these test, Facebook has been a complete failure. So many promising bloggers have disappeared and seem to spend their online time swapping suggestive messages on Facebook (find a hotel room folks) or share animated gifs with 257 of their closed “friends.” Quaker Friends tend to be a clannish bunch and Facebook has really fed into that (unfortunate) part of our persona. Blogging seemed to be resuscitating the idea of the “Public Friend,” someone who was willing to share their Quaker identity with the general public. That’s still happening but it seems to have slowed down quite a bit. I’m not ready to close my own Facebook account but I would like to see Friends really think about which social media we spend our time on. Friends have always been adapting–railroads, newspapers, frequently flier miles have all affected how we communicate with each other and the outside world. Computer networking is just the latest wrinkle.</p>
<p>As a personal aside, the worst thing to happen to my Quaker blogging has been the lack of a commute (except for a short hop to do some <a href="http://www.raphaelwebscapes.com/">Haddonfield web design</a> a few times a week). I’m no longer stranded on a train for hours a week with nothing to do but read the journal of Samuel Bownas or throw open my laptop to write about the latest idea that flits through my head. Ah the travails of telecommuting!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robin M posts this week about two Convergent Events happening in California in the next month or two. And she also tries out a simplified definition of Convergent Friends: people who are engaged in the renewal movement within the Religious Society of Friends, across all the branches of Friends. It sounds good but what does [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin M posts this week about <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2007/07/two-convergent-events-in-california.html">two Convergent Events</a> happening in California in the next month or two. And she also tries out a simplified definition of Convergent Friends:</p>
<blockquote><p>people who are engaged in the renewal movement within the Religious Society of Friends, across all the branches of Friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>It sounds good but what does it mean? Specifically: who isn’t for renewal, at least on a theoretical level? There are lots of faithful, smart and loving Friends out there advocating renewal who don’t fit my definition of Convergent (which is fine, I don’t think the whole RSoF <em>should</em> be Convergent, it’s a movement in the river, not a dam).</p>
<p>When Robin <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2006/01/robinopedia-convergent-friends.html">coined the term</a> at the start of 2006 it seemed to refer to general trends in the Religious Society of Friends and the larger Christian world, but it was also referring to a specific (online) community that had had a year or two of conversation to shape itself and model trust and accountability. Most importantly we each were going out of our way to engage with Friends from other Quaker traditions and were each called on our own cultural assumptions.<br>
The coined term implied an experience of sort. “Convergent” explicitly references <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends">Conservative Friends</a> (“Con-”) and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergent_church">Emergent Church movement</a> (“-vergent”). It seems to me like one needs to look at those two phenomenon and their relation to one’s own understanding and experience of Quaker life and community before really understanding what all the fuss has been about. That’s happening lots of places and it is not simply a blog phenomenon.</p>
<p>Nowadays I’m noticing a lot of Friends declaring themselves Convergent after reading a blog post or two or attending a workshop. It’s becoming the term <em>du jour</em> for Friends who want to differentiate themselves from business-as-usual, Quakerism-as-usual. This fits Robin’s simplified definition. But if that’s all it is and it becomes all-inclusive for inclusivity’s sake, then “Convergent” will drift away away from the roots of the conversation that spawned it and turn into another buzzword for “liberal Quaker.” This is starting to happen.</p>
<p>The term “Convergent Friends” is being picked up by Friends outside the dozen or two blogs that spawned it and moving into the wild–that’s great, but also means it’s definition is becoming a moving target. People are grabbing onto it to sum up their dreams, visions and frustrations but we’re almost certainly not meaning the same thing by it. “Convergent Friends” implies that we’ve all arrived somewhere together. I’ve often wondered whether we shouldn’t be talking about “Converging Friends,” a term that implies a parallel set of movements and puts the rather important elephant square on the table: converging toward what? What we mean by convergence depends on our starting point. My attempt at a label was the rather clunky <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/conservative_liberal_quakers_and_not_becoming_a_leastcommondenominator_sentimental_faith.php">conservative-leaning liberal Friend</a>, which is probably what most of us in the liberal Quaker tradition are meaning by “Convergent.”</p>
<p>I started mapping out a <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/emergent_church_movement_the_younger_evangelicals_and_quaker_renewal.php">liberal plan for Convergent Friends</a> a couple of years before the term was coined and it still summarizes many of my hopes and concerns. The only thing I might add now is a paragraph about how we’ll have to work both inside and outside of normal Quaker channels to effect this change (Johan Maurer <a href="http://johanpdx.blogspot.com/2007/07/fum-retreat-what-did-we-accomplish.html">recently wrote</a> an interesting post that included the wonderful description of “the lovely subversives who ignore structures and communicate on a purely personal basis between the camps via blogs, visitation, and other means” and compared us to SCUBA divers (“ScubaQuake.org” anyone?).</p>
<p>Robin’s inclusive definition of “renewal” definitely speaks to something. Informal renewal networks are springing up all over North America. Many branches of Friends are involved. There are themes I’m seeing in lots of these places: a strong youth or next-generation focus; a reliance on the internet; a curiosity about “other” Friends traditions; a desire to get back to roots in the simple ministry of Jesus. Whatever label or labels this new revival might take on is less important than the Spirit behind it.</p>
<p>But is every hope for renewal “Convergent”? I don’t think so. At the end of the day the path for us is narrow and is given, not chosen. At the end of day—and beginning and middle—the work is to follow the Holy Spirit’s guidance in “real time.” Definitions and carefully selected words slough away as mere notions. The newest message is just the oldest message repackaged. Let’s not get too caught up in our own hip verbage, lecture invitations and glorious attention that we forget that there there is one, even Christ Jesus who can speak to our condition, that He Himself has come to teach, and that our message is to share the good news he’s given us. The Tempter is ready to distract us, to puff us up so we think we are the message, that we own the message, or that the message depends on our flowery words delivered from podiums. We must stay on guard, humbled, low and praying to be kept from the temptations that surround even the most well-meaning renewal attempts. It is our faithfulness to the free gospel ministry that will ultimately determine the fate of our work.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even though my last post was a five minute quickie, it generated a number of comments. One question that came up was how aware individual Friends are about the specific Quaker meanings of some of the common English words we use—“Light,” “Spirit,” etc.(disambiguation in Wiki-speak). Marshall Massey expressed sadness that the terms were used uncomprehendingly [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though my last post was a five minute quickie, it generated a number of comments. One question that came up was how aware individual Friends are about the specific Quaker meanings of some of the common English words we use—“Light,” “Spirit,” etc.(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation">disambiguation</a> in Wiki-speak). <a href="http://journal.earthwitness.org/the-quaker-magpie-journal/%20">Marshall Massey</a> expressed sadness that the terms were used uncomprehendingly and I suggested that some Friends knowingly confuse the generic and specific meanings. Marshall replied that if this were so it might be a cultural difference based on geography.</p>
<p>If it’s a cultural difference, I suspect it’s less geographic than functional. I was speaking of the class of professional Friends (heavy in my parts) who purposefully obscure their language. We’re very good at talking in a way that sounds Quaker to those who do know our specific language but that sounds generically spiritual to those who don’t. Sometimes this obscurantism is used by people who are repelled by traditional Quakerism but want to advance their ideas in the Religious Society of Friends, but more often (and more dangerously) it’s used by Friends who know and love what we are but are loathe to say anything that might sound controversial.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/2004/02/testimonies_for_twentiethfirst/">I’ve told the story before</a> of a Friend and friend who said that everytime he uses the word <em>community</em> he’s meaning <em>the body of Christ</em>. Newcomers hearing him and reading his articles could be forgiven for thinking that <em>community</em> is our reason-for-being, indeed: what we worship. The problem is that ten years later, they’ll have signed up and built up an identity as a Friend and will get all offended when someone suggests that this community they know and love is really <em>the body of Christ</em>.</p>
<p>Liberal Friends in the public eye need to be more honest in their conversation about the Biblical and Christian roots of our religious fellowship. That will scare off potential members who have been scarred by the acts of those who have falsely claimed Christ. I’m sorry about that and we need to be as gentle and humble about this as we can. But hopefully they’ll see the fruits of the true spirit in our openness, our warmth and our giving and will realize that Christian fellowship is not about televangelists and Presidential hypocrites. Maybe they’ll eventually join or maybe not, but if they do at least they won’t be surprised by our identity. Before someone comments back, I’m not saying that Christianity needs to be a test for individual membership but new members should know that everything from our name (“<a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#14">Friends of Christ</a>”) on down are rooted in that tradition and that that formal membership does not include veto power over our public identity.</p>
<p>There is room out there for spiritual-but-not-religious communities that aren’t built around a collective worship of God, don’t worry about any particular tradition and focus their energies and group identity on liberal social causes. But I guess part of what I wonder is why this doesn’t collect under the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalist_Association">UUA banner</a>, whose <a href="http://www.uua.org/aboutuua/principles.html%20">Principles and Purposes</a> statement is already much more syncretistic and post-religious than even the most liberal yearly meeting. Evolving into the “other UUA” would mean abandoning most of the valuable spiritual wisdom we have as a people.</p>
<p>I think there’s a need for the kind of strong liberal Christianity that Friends have practiced for 350 years. There must be millions of people parked on church benches every Sunday morning looking up at the pulpit and thinking to themselves, “surely this isn’t what Jesus was talking about.” Look, we have <a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/story/214/story_21415_1.html">Evangelical Christians coming out against the war</a>! And let’s face it, it’s only a matter of time before “Emergent Christians” realize how lame all that post-post candle worship is and look for something a little deeper. The times are ripe for “Opportunities,” Friends. We have important knowledge to share about all this. It would be a shame if we kept quiet.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[By James Riemermann Here’s a thought-provoking comment that James left a few days ago on the “We’re All Ranters Now”:http://www.nonviolence.org/Quaker/ranters.php piece. It’s an important testimony and a good challenge. I’m stumped trying to answer it upon first reading, which means it’s definitely worth featuring! There is much expressed in these pages which I can heartily [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By James Riemermann<br>
Here’s a thought-provoking comment that James left a few days ago on the “We’re All Ranters Now”:http://www.nonviolence.org/Quaker/ranters.php piece. It’s an important testimony and a good challenge. I’m stumped trying to answer it upon first reading, which means it’s definitely worth featuring!</p>
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There is much expressed in these pages which I can heartily support. Certainly, if Friends are reluctant to speak of God or Christ in the Religious Society of Friends for fear of disapproval or censure, something needs to be corrected. We cannot build deep, loving community in an atmosphere of anxiety and mistrust.<br>
I also discern a sense that the author and many visitors to this site feel that many Friends are more interested in an easy, comfortable, unchallenging social and political club, than a place for serious spiritual  growth and challenge. If you wish to call that being “convicted in our sin,” so be it. The phrase does not speak to me, but I think its meaning does.<br>
At the same time, I discern a sense here–rarely explicit, but frequently implied–that what liberal Quakers need is a good purging, a removal of those Friends who don’t believe what “we” think Friends should believe. Who “we” are, and precisely which beliefs are acceptable and unacceptable, is very much in question.<br>
I don’t believe in God, and have spent the last 15 years among Friends trying to understand, among many other things, why I feel so irrestibly drawn to a community and religious society in which the central term is God. My relationship with that community is at the center of my life, and has transformed and improved me in ways that make me deeply grateful and reverent for whatever it is we experience or create together. It has not made me a theist.<br>
In my large and very liberal meeting,  a fair number of messages in meeting for worship invoke the name of God or Christ or Jesus. Perhaps a larger percentage do not, including many from Friends I know to be Christians of various sorts. That a message does not invoke the name of God, does not prove or even suggest that God is not present in the message. If I am mistaken and God does exist, surely he is manifest in all creation and humanity, and not merely at those moments when we invoke his name. If I am mistaken and God does exist, surely he is manifest in me, and in what I bring to my meeting, and what my meeting brings to me. Surely your conception of God is not that he is only present in the lives of those who hold certain theological propositions to be true. Or am I mistaken about this as well?<br>
I do experience something mysterious and profound and life-changing in my religious life among Friends. I have a hard time describing it, though I occasionally try in my flawed and halting language. Perhaps the experience I have is the same as, or deeply similar to, that which you call God. For me to use that term would be misleading, even dishonest, because, mysterious as my experience sometimes is, nothing about it strikes me as unnatural. It is something beyond me, naturally, as it springs not from my own doing, but from the encounter or relationship between me and others, between me and the world. It is neither here nor there, but a living bond that comes from being alive in the world with other living beings. There is something sacred in that bond, and acting in ways that tend to violate it is not righteous. I depend on my community for many things, and one of those things is to keep me honest to that bond. I submit myself to that discipline freely and joyfully, and my willingness springs from the faith I have in the goodness of that community. I do not and cannot, however, submit my mind, my beliefs–my measure of the light–to any authority. To do so would be a violation of my integrity, and it is not in the tradition of George Fox or the founders to demand this sort of obedience, nor to deny the blessing of our community to those who will not state agreement with certain theological propositions.<br>
I am confident that Fox and his followers would have been shocked to see the theological diversity that is the reality of modern liberal Friends. He also would have  been shocked, I suspect, to learn that the creation story/stories of Genesis, taken literally, would soon be proven by science to be clearly and absolutely false. Given his unshakeable integrity,  given the radical nature of his ministry, given 300 more years of light and learning, I think his beliefs would have changed in many ways that are hard to imagine. Should we have not changed during this period?<br>
My goal is not to change Friends, though my presence among them will probably have some small effect. Like Popeye and Luther, I am what I am. At the same time, I applaud and honor the Christians and others whose faith in God is utterly central to everything of value in their lives. It would grieve me deeply if you were reluctant to speak your faith in worship to avoid offending me. Sometimes your language about God speaks to me very deeply, though on a metaphorical level. Other times, not so much. In any case, your beliefs are important to me. I want to know you. I would like for us to remain Friends.<br>
Either way, I’m here. I’m not going anywhere.</p>
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<p><i>This piece originally appeared as a comment on “We’re All Ranters Now”:http://www.nonviolence.org/Quaker/ranters.php.</i></p>
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