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		<title>The January issue of +Friends Journal will include an interview with +Robin Mohr.…</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The January issue of +Friends Journal will include an interview with +Robin Mohr. One of the classic Quaker tracts that’s inspired her is a 1944 speech that Rufus M Jones gave to young Friends in Baltimore Yearly Meeting. We couldn’t locate a copy online so we scanned, copied and typed it in and will use [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The January issue of <span class="proflinkWrapper"><span class="proflinkPrefix">+</span><a href="https://plus.google.com/101546958950061680517" class="proflink" oid="101546958950061680517">Friends Journal</a></span> will include an interview with <span class="proflinkWrapper"><span class="proflinkPrefix">+</span><a href="https://plus.google.com/115345037413737848569" class="proflink" oid="115345037413737848569">Robin Mohr</a></span>. One of the classic Quaker tracts that’s inspired her is a 1944 speech that Rufus M Jones gave to young Friends in Baltimore Yearly Meeting. We couldn’t locate a copy online so we scanned, copied and typed it in and will use it as a supplemental link to Robin’s piece.  #blog</p>
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												By Rufus M Jones Web-only feature Rufus M. Jones’ 1944 lecture for Baltimore Young Friends Yearly Meeting.
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		<title>Flashbacks: Aging Youth, Vanity Googling, War Fatigue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I occasionally go back to my blogging archives to pick out interesting articles from one, five and ten years ago. ONE YEAR AGO: The Not-Quite-So Young Quakers It was five years ago this week that I sat down and wrote about a coolnew movement I had been reading about. It would have been Jordan Cooper’s [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I occasionally go back to my blogging archives to pick out interesting articles from one, five and ten years ago.</p>
<p><b>ONE YEAR AGO: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/the_not-quite-so_young_quakers.php">The Not-Quite-So Young Quakers</a></b></p>
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<div class="asset-body">It was five years ago this week that I sat down and wrote about a cool<br>new movement I had been reading about. It would have been <a href="http://www.jordoncooper.com/">Jordan Cooper</a>’s blog that turned me onto <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/aprilweb-only/118-12.0.html">Robert E Webber</a>’s <a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://www.amazon.com/Younger-Evangelicals-Facing-Challenges-World/dp/0801091527">The Younger Evangelicals</a>, a look at generational shifts among American Evangelicals. In retrospect, it’s fair to say that the <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/">QuakerQuaker community</a> gathered around this essay (here’s <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-quaker-blogosphere-changed-my-life.html">Robin M’s account of first reading it</a>) and it’s follow-up <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/were_all_ranters_now_on_liberal_friends_and_becoming_a_society_of_finders.php">We’re All Ranters Now</a> (<a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2007/04/20/quaker-ranter-martin-kelley-puts-a-new-face-on-an-old-tradition/">Wess talking about it</a>).</div>
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<p>And yet? All of this is still a small demographic scattered all around. If I wanted to have a good two-hour caffeine-fueled bull session about the future of Friends at some local coffeeshop this afternoon, I can’t think of anyone even vaguely local who I could call up. I’m really sad to say we’re still largely on our own. According to actuarial tables, I’ve recently crossed my life’s halfway point and here I am still referencing generational change. How I wish I could honestly say that I could get involved with any committee in my yearly meeting and get to work on the issues raised in “Younger Evangelicals and Younger Quakers”. Someone recently sent me an email thread between members of an outreach committee for another large East Coast yearly meeting and they were debating whether the internet was an appropriate place to do outreach work–in 2008?!?</p>
<p><i>Published 9/14/2008.</i></p></blockquote>
<p><b>FIVE YEARS AGO: <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/vanity_googling_of_causes.php">Vanity Googling of Causes</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>A poster to an obscure discussion board recently described typing a particular search phrase into Google and finding nothing but bad information. Reproducing the search I determined two things: 1) that my site topped the list and 2) that the results were actually quite accurate. I’ve been hearing an increasing number of stories like this. “Cause Googling,” a variation on “vanity googling,” is suddenly becoming quite popular. But the interesting thing is that these new searchers don’t actually seem curious about the results. Has Google become our new proof text?</p>
<p><i>Published 10/2/2004 in The Quaker Ranter.</i></p></blockquote>
<p><b>TEN’ISH YEARS AGO: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/19991014023505/www.nonviolence.org/board/messages/6773.htm">War Time Again</a><br></b>This piece is about the NATO bombing campaign in Serbia (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia">Wikipedia</a>). It’s strange to see I was feeling war fatigue even before 9/11 and the “real” wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. </p>
<blockquote><p>There’s a great danger in all this. A danger to the soul of America. This is the fourth country the U.S. has gone to war against in the last six months. War is becoming routine. It is sandwiched between the soap operas and the sitcoms, between the traffic and weather reports. Intense cruise missile bombardments are carried out but have no effect on the psyche or even imagination of the U.S. citizens.</p>
<p>It’s as if war itself has become another consumer good. Another event to be packaged for commercial television. Given a theme song. We’re at war with a country we don’t know over a region we don’t really care about. I’m not be facetious, I’m simply stating a fact. The United States can and should play an active peacemaking role in the region, but only after we’ve done our homework and have basic knowledge of the players and situation. Isolationism is dangerous, yes, but not nearly as dangerous as the emerging culture of these dilettante made-for-TV wars.</p>
<p><i>Published March 25, 1999, Nonviolence.org</i></p></blockquote>
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		<title>What Convergence means to Ohio Conservative</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robin M’s recent post on a Convergent Friends definition has garnered a number of fascinating commenters. The latest comes from Scott Savage, a well-known Conservative Friend (author of A Plain Life, publisher of the defunct Plain Magazine and lightening rod for a recent culture war skirmish over homosexuality at Ohio State University). Savage’s comment on [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin M’s recent post on a <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/2007/07/two-convergent-events-in-california.html">Convergent Friends definition</a> has garnered a number of fascinating commenters. The latest comes from Scott Savage, a well-known Conservative Friend (author of <em>A Plain Life</em>, publisher of the defunct <em>Plain Magazine</em> and lightening rod for a recent culture war skirmish over homosexuality at Ohio State University). Savage’s comment on Robin’s blog follows what we could call the “Cranky Conservative” template: gratuitous swipes at Conservatives in Iowa and North Carolina, wholesale dismissal of other Friends, multiple affirmations of Christ, digs at the issue of homosexuality, a recitation of past failures of cross-branch communication, then a shrug that seems to ask why he should stoop to our level for dialogue.</p>
<p>Snore.</p>
<p>What makes my sleepy response especially strange is that except for the homosexuality issue (yay for <a href="http://www.quaker.org/flgbtqc/">FLGBTQC</a>!), I’m pretty close to Scott’s positions. I worry about the liberalization of Conservative Friends, I get cranky about Christian Friends who deny Christ in public, and I think a lot of Friends are missing the boat on some core essentials. When I open my copy of Ohio’s 1968 discipline and read its statement of faith (oops, sorry, “Introduction”), I nod my head. As far as I’m aware I’m in unity with all of Ohio Conservative’s principles of faith and practice and if I signed up for their distance membership I certainly wouldn’t be the most liberal member of the yearly meeting.</p>
<p>I’m actually not sure about Scott’s yearly meeting membership; I’m simply answering his question of why he and the other Conservatives who hold a strong concern for “the hedge” (a separation of Conservative Friends from other branches) might want to think about Convergence. Of all the remaining Conservative bodies, the hedge is arguably strongest in Ohio Yearly Meeting and while parts of this apply to Conservatives elsewhere—Iowa, North Carolina and individuals embedded in non-Conservative yearly meetings—the snares and opportunities are different for them than they are for Ohioans.</p>
<p>Why Ohio Conservative should engage with Convergence:</p>
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<li>If you have all the answers and don’t mind keeping them hidden under the nearest bushel then Convergence means nothing.</li>
<li>But if you’re interested in following Jesus and being a fisher of men and women by sharing the good news… Well, then it’s useful to learn that there’s a growing movement of Friends from outside Conservative circles (however defined) who are sensing there’s something missing and looking to traditional Quakerism for answers.</li>
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<p>Ohio Conservatives have answers and this Convergence movement is providing a fresh opportunity to share them with the apostate Friends and with Christians in other denominations seeking out a more authentic relationship with Christ. Engaging with Convergence doesn’t mean Ohio Friends have to change anything of their faith or practice and it needn’t be about “dialogue”: simply sharing the truth as you understand it is ministry.</p>
<p>Yes, there are snares involved in any true gospel ministry; striking the right balance is always difficult. As the carpenter said, “narrow is the way which leadeth unto life”. We are beset on all sides by roadblocks that threaten to lead us away from Christ’s leadership. Ohio Friends will need to be on guard that ministers don’t succumb to the temptation to water down their theology for any fleeting popularity. This is a real danger and <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/even_though_my_last_post/">it frequently occurs</a> but while I could tell eight years of great insider stories from the halls of Philadelphia, is that what we’re here to do?</p>
<p>Let me put my cards on the table: I don’t see much of Ohio effectively ministering now. There’s too much of a kind of pride that borders on obnoxiousness, that loves endlessly reciting why Iowa and North Carolina aren’t Conservative and why no other Friends are Friends, blah blah blah. It can get tiresome and legalistic. I could point to plenty of online forums where it crosses the line into detraction. Charity and love are Christian qualities too. Humility and a sense of humor are compatible with traditional Quakerism. How do we find a way to continue safeguarding Ohio’s pearls while sharing them widely with the world. There are Ohio Friends doing this and while I differ with Scott Savage on some social issues I consider tangential (and he probably doesn’t), I very much appreciate his hard work advancing the understanding of Quakerism and agree on more than I disagree.</p>
<p>But how do we find a way to be both Conservative and Evangelical? To marry Truth with Love? To not only understand the truth but to know how, when and where to share it? I think Convergence can help Ohio think about delivery of Truth and it can help bring seekers into the doors. When I rhetorically asked last month what Convergent Friends <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/robin_m_posts_this_week/">might be converging toward</a>, the first answer that popped in my head was Ohio Friends with a sense of humor. I’m not sure it’s the most accurate definition but it reveals my own sympathies and I find it tempting to think about what that would look like (hint: <a href="http://www.conservativefriend.org/newsandevents.htm">kraken might be involved</a>).</p>
<p>A reminder to everyone that I’ll be at <a href="http://www.conservativefriend.org/2007yearlymeeting.htm">Ohio Yearly Meeting Conservative sessions</a>&nbsp;in a few weeks to talk more about the opportunities for Ohio engagement with Convergence. Come round if you’re in the area.<br>
Also check out Robin’s own response to Scott, up there on her own blog. It’s a moving personal testimony to the power and joy of cross-Quaker fellowship and the spiritual growth that can result.</p>
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