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		<title>What Chairs can learn from the Quaker Business Method</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The author Shivaji Shiva isn’t talking about the furniture we sit on but rather the leader of board meetings. The section on the role of a clerk is very useful, covering sections like “Humility,” “Contributions and ‘air-time’, and “Navigating conflicting views.” He concludes: If some of these approaches are less familiar to you, why not [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author Shivaji Shiva isn’t talking about the furniture we sit on but rather the leader of board meetings. The section on the role of a clerk is very useful, covering sections like “Humility,” “Contributions and ‘air-time’, and “Navigating conflicting views.” He concludes:</p>
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  If some of these approaches are less familiar to you, why not find out more about Quaker business methods and how a governance tool kit used for more than 350 years could work for you?
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<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="RVzLPbthFg"><p><a href="https://www.associationofchairs.org.uk/2019/04/10/what-charity-chairs-can-learn-from-the-quaker-business-method/">What Chairs can learn from the Quaker Business Method</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Sin, corruption, temptation and distraction</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2019 20:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Patricia Dallmann on the role of sin: It is better to see the sin of the world as uniform and single rather than to view its manifestations as particular properties belonging to specific corrupted persons. That is to say, in its uniformity, the world’s sin is more like an expanse of mud than it is [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia Dallmann on the role of sin:</p>
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  It is better to see the sin of the world as uniform and single rather than to view its manifestations as particular properties belonging to specific corrupted persons. That is to say, in its uniformity, the world’s sin is more like an expanse of mud than it is like separate rocks situated at intervals in a field! Seeing sin as a uniform force helps the intellect direct the incensive power toward sin itself, and away from particular offenders who have succumbed to and embody demonic power.
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<p>I like how she pulls from fourth-century spiritual texts but uses them as a way to understand our own modern-day psychological responses. Modern Friends don’t often explore the dynamics of sin and I think we sometimes lose out by simply discounting it. The language of temptation—and the Quaker interpretation by early ministers like Samuel Bownas–has helped me understand moments when the easy path of acclaim is not necessarily the right choice.</p>
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		<title>The Art of Persuasion</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Philadelphia Yearly Meeting highlights artists, including Signe Wilkinson and Ramona Sharples, in The Art of Persuasion: “I was thinking about (emotion and art) recently as I was going through all my comics, and there is a rhythm that is very slow and quiet. It’s not very actiony comics that I’m drawing … because … [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philadelphia Yearly Meeting highlights artists, including Signe Wilkinson and Ramona Sharples, in <a href="http://www.pym.org/art-persuasion-trans-comic-ramona-sharples-editorial-cartoonist-signe-wilkinson-discuss-craft/">The Art of Persuasion</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“I was thinking about (emotion and art) recently as I was going through all my comics, and there is a rhythm that is very slow and quiet. It’s not very actiony comics that I’m drawing … because … a lot of the feelings that I am describing are melancholy, and that plays a role in the way that my comics are presented.”</p>
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		<title>On the State of Religious Discourse at Haverford</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This one only tangentially skims Friends but it’s an interesting case. A independent student website at the historically-Quaker Haverford College decided not to do a special issue on religion and one student penned an article about why he disagrees: On the State of Religious Discourse at Haverford Haverford is not immune to this plague: we [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one only tangentially skims Friends but it’s an interesting case. A independent student website at the historically-Quaker Haverford College decided not to do a special issue on religion and one student penned an article about why he disagrees: <a href="http://haverfordclerk.com/a-regretful-piece-to-have-written-on-the-state-of-religious-discourse-at-haverford/">On the State of Religious Discourse at Haverford</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Haverford is not immune to this plague: we too relegate religious knowledge to a dimension of the personal. Considering the religious history and Quaker roots of our institution, this is particularly troubling. Haverford sells itself as a Quaker institution, and there is a sense in which this is true, as there are certain traditions at Haverford (speaking out of silence, quorum, confrontation, etc.), and yet the school split from organized Quakerism long ago, and one need only look at the last year to understand that we make decisions as an institution that are quite separable from any promoted quaker values.</p>
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<p>Haverford’s official statement on its Quaker identity is a <a href="https://www.haverford.edu/religious-spiritual-life/haverfords-quaker-character">rather strained two sentences</a>, but in recent years it’s developed a <a href="https://www.haverford.edu/quaker-affairs">Quaker Affairs program</a>, which is currently led by the awesome Walter Sullivan. The program’s&nbsp;<a href="https://www.haverford.edu/quaker-affairs/friend-residence">Friend in Residence</a> program has brought in some great Quaker thinkers on campus.</p>
<p>More on this topic soon as Friends Journal’s May issue will ask “What Are Quaker Values Anyway?” (Some of my <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/writing-opp-quaker-values-anyway/">preliminary thought are here</a>).</p>
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		<title>Quakers acting badly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2017 23:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Friends don’t have a particularly good track record with regards to controversy. There’s no reason we need to pretend to be talking historically. We’ve had two major yearly meetings break up in this summer&#160;(meet Sierra-Cascades Yearly Meeting and North Carolina Fellowship of Friends), with at least one more “at bat” for some future long hot [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Friends don’t have a particularly good track record with regards to controversy. There’s no reason we need to pretend to be talking historically. We’ve had two major yearly meetings break up in this summer&nbsp;(meet <a href="https://www.scymfriends.org/">Sierra-Cascades Yearly Meeting</a> and <a href="http://www.quakernews.com/category/ncff/">North Carolina Fellowship of Friends</a>), with at least <a href="https://jplund.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/wyn-2017-context/">one more “at bat”</a> for some future long hot summer.</p>
<p>Controversies flare up in many places. Friend Sa’ed Atshan just broke his media silence to <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/commentary/friends-central-school-saed-atshan-swarthmore-palestine-quaker-20170808.html">talk about the cancelation of his talk at Friends’ Central School in February</a> and the subsequent walk-outs, firings, and litigations. The controversy around <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/experience-african-american-quaker/">Avis Wanda McClinton’s disownment by Upper Dublin Meeting</a> continues to incense large numbers of Philadelphia Friends, with fuel to the fire coming from the role that the <a href="http://www.pym.org/addressing-racism/undoing-racism-group/">Undoing Racism Group</a> does or doesn’t have in the <a href="https://theliberalquaker.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/a-recent-history-of-philadelphia-yearly-meeting/">yearly meeting structure</a>. Last year a majority of Friends of color <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/news-september-2016/">boycotted public events at the FGC Gathering</a> over frustration at the site selection process and the underlying issues extend to other Quaker venues.</p>
<p>The most-commented recent article in Friends Journal is&nbsp;<a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/it-breaks-my-heart/">“It Breaks My Heart” by Kate Pruitt</a> from the online June/July issue. Many readers related to her sense of alienation and loss. Two comments that hit me the hardest were:</p>
<blockquote><p>Not all Friends are found in Quaker Meetings. You’re better off without your meeting.</p>
<p>Gone now is the hope… of finding community among Quakers. To be frank, why bother? There’s plenty of brokenness right where I am.</p></blockquote>
<p>And I get enough “Why I’m leaving Friends” manifestos in my email inbox every month that I could turn it into a regular <em>Friends Journal</em> column.</p>
<p>It seems to me that are a number of underlying issues that tie these controversies together. What do we do when a group of Friends starts acting in a manner that seems contrary to our understanding of Quaker testimonies and practices? How do we balance love and judgement when conflict arises among us? When do we break out of Quaker niceness? Maybe even more challenging, how do we maintain our integrity and accountability when controversy breaks us into camps willing to engage in exaggeration? And just what do we say when the outside public only gets half the story or thinks that one side is speaking for all Friends?</p>
<p>So this is a plug for <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/submissions/">submissions</a> for December’s <em>Friends Journal</em>.&nbsp; The theme is “<a href="https://friendsjournal.submittable.com/submit/81838/dec-2017-conflict-and-controversy">Conflict and Controversy</a>” and the submission deadline is September 9. We’re not looking for blow-by-blow accounts of being mistreated, and we’re not terribly interested (this time) in manifestos about Quaker cultural norms. I’m less interested in specific issues than I am the meta of discernment: How do individuals or small groups of Friends move forward in the heat of controversy. What do we do when the easy solutions have failed? How do we decide when it’s time to break out of Quaker niceness to lay down some truth—or time to <a href="http://biblehub.com/matthew/10-14.htm">kick the dust off your sandals</a> and move along?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over email, the news that Christine Manville Greenland has passed. In recent times I worked with Christine mostly through the Tract Association of Friends but I’ve known her for so long I don’t know when I first met her. Whenever she said something it was well worth listening to. On online forums from Soc.religion.quaker to [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over email, the news that Christine Manville Greenland has passed. In recent times I worked with Christine mostly through the Tract Association of Friends but I’ve known her for so long I don’t know when I first met her.</p>
<p>Whenever she said something it was well worth listening to. On online forums from Soc.religion.quaker to Facebook she was always encouraging to what Samuel Bownas had called “infant ministers.” She had the rare ability to slice through thorny Quaker issues with unexpected observation and wisdom. She had a long view of recent Quaker history that put things in context and she would pull metaphors from her training as a botanist to explain mystifying behaviors in our coreligionists.</p>
<p>She also had a wealth of institutional memory. There’s incredible value in this. Friends, like most humans, give a lot of value to the ways we’re doing things right now. It only takes a few years before a process feels timeless and essential. We forget that things once worked differently or that other Friends have a different methods. By being involved with Friends in different areas—Canada and Colorado—Christine brought geographic awareness and by being involved in Philadelphia so long she brought a modern historical awareness. That dysfunctional meeting everyone’s talking about? She’ll remember that everyone was talking about it thirty years ago for another controversy and point out the similarities. That doubt you’ll have about a path? Christine will tell you how others have felt the leading and assure you that it’s genuine.</p>
<p>She did all this with such gentleness and modesty that it’s only now that she’s gone that I’m realizing the debt I owe her. More than anything perhaps, she showed how to live a life as a Friend of integrity through the politics and foibles of our Religious Society.</p>
<p>I used Google to find precious gems of wisdom she left on comment threads. It’s a long trail. She was active on soc.religion.quaker back in the day, commented on most Convergent Friends blogs and was active on Facebook. She took the time to write many enlightening and warm commentary. Here is a random sample.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/vision-and-leadership-keeping-the-long-view/#comment-449520788">Comment on my post “Vision and Leadership”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Yesterday, I&nbsp; clerked a small quarterly meeting working group — I’m co-clerk, since it&nbsp; isn’t my quarter… and the other co-clerk is, which works well. We keep asking the questions and seeing the potentials … but when it comes down to being faithful (a term I use instead of “accountable”) that needs consistent testing. It is important to center in worship, no matter what we are doing.</p>
<p>I had the experience of being chair of a group of biologists, and found that, even then, I conducted business in the same way… one of seeking guidance from other members of the group — even though the group of which we were a small part used Robert’s rules of order. I felt our group was too small to make that approach workable… Occasionally, I forgot I wasn’t among Friends until another member of the group (a United Church graduate of Swarthmore College) reminded me… Church of the Brethren folks just grinned and allowed as how they preferred the approach; we were, after all, both friends and biologists.&nbsp; For most of us, the work had both a scientific and a spiritual basis.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.micahbales.com/get-rid-yearly-meetings/">To Micah Bales’s “Is It Time to Get Rid of Yearly Meetings?”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I checked in with Friends at our Quarterly Meeting picnic yesterday; responses were mixed for a variety of reasons, some having to do with resistance to changing the ways in which we are Friends, and other responses that I can only describe as “institutional cheer-leading”.</p>
<p>Some of this has to do with expected tensions as we grapple with matters of both race and class; still other matters have to do with the fact that our structures have changed at least twice in 30 years, as has the outline of our faith and practice. The question I have (of myself and others) is “How do we — individually and corporately — show that we truly love one another as Christ has loved us?” By that, I mean all others.</p>
<p>The most hopeful exchange was speaking with a dear Friend in my former meeting who had gone for the first time in decades, and feels strongly led to encourage her meeting to assist in work going on at both the quarter and yearly meeting level; this will cross boundaries. I was hopeful in part because this Friend exudes consistent love. … and has in the 25 years I’ve known her. Love of God/neighbor are inseparable. She lives that better than I do.</p>
<p>It seems I have much to learn.</p></blockquote>
<p>Comment on my “What Does it Mean to be a Quaker?” (on an old site)</p>
<blockquote><p>I cringe when I hear the word “Quakerism” or “the Quaker Way”… I find the two terms interchangeable — both can lack substance. It seems we have finally become the “bureaucratic association of distant acquantances” rather than the Religious Society of Friends. Some years ago, an experienced Friend wrote that Integrity (saying what one means, meaning what one says) was at the heart of Quaker Practice — as a testimony.</p>
<p>If we’re just going for PR, that lacks integrity.</p>
<p>The question — for me — becomes “How can I live as a Friend?”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/categorically-not-the-testimonies/">Comment on Eric Moon’s “Categorically Not the Testimonies”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>When I first came to Friends, it was the way of life — not the intellectual construct — that drew me to meeting week after week (a university meeting in what later became Intermountain Yearly Meeting). When I applied for membership, my committee of clearness questioned more whether I could live into a way of life, into the community of that particular meeting. Friends felt that wrestling with the understanding of the faith tradition was a part of my education. Only after I moved to Philadelphia did I begin hearing of the “parsing” of the faith tradition. It seemed too pat.</p>
<p>Still, the overlapping categories are still as useful by way of explanation, but it isn’t the whole story.</p>
<p>As with many matters of faith, for those who possess it, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not, no explanation is possible. Howard Brinton did his best by way of explanation, but faith-wrestling is a task we all have.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://questforadequacy.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-cost-of-traveling-ministry.html">Comment on Ashley Wilcox’s The Cost of Traveling Ministry</a></p>
<blockquote><p>My question about younger Friends serving as traveling ministers is somewhat more serious: Are their meetings attentive to both the spiritual gifts and the needs (cost of travel, etc.)as well as the spiritual need for support. If not, is the Friend with a concern for travel, teaching, or any other ministry) humble enough to ask the questions Jon is asking. In my experience (as an older adult Friend)there is little communication among age groups so that gifts of ministry are fully recognized… Young Friends are often left to their own devices. It may be that lack of spiritual support that is the “last door out.”</p>
<p>For instance, I would not travel without the full consent of my past committee of care, all of whom know me well. They have generously supported me this year (as well as my co-leader).</p>
<p>What concerns me is the energy it takes (spiritual and physical), and that it most often takes an elder to attend to the mundane things — as well as to keep the minister on track.</p></blockquote>
<p>She was also always one to think of the kids. Here she is <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/bringing-children-to-worship/">commenting on Kathleen Karhnak-Glasby’s “Bringing Children to Worship: Trusting God to Take Over from There”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I recall one parent of a small meeting in Ontario at Canadian Yearly Meeting sessions trying to encourage his daughter to sit quietly during worship… Her very reasonable response was “but Daddy, I can pray standing on my head!” Her ministry caused me to reflect on whether I could indeed pray/worship in all circumstances, and from whatever position I was in at the time. I still reflect on that…</p>
<p>At another meeting, when Friends noticed the power struggles between children and their parents, we asked elder Friends to serve as “adoptive” grandparents, with whom the children could sit… That defused the power struggles, and members of meeting who had no children of their own were very helpful to parents in that meeting.</p>
<p>I also recall learning to sink deeply into worship — and hearing a younger Friend’s grandmother giggle. I looked down and there was the 1–2 year old peering up in wonder at why/how I could sit so quietly when he was busy crawling under the benches. it was just fine. He became a part of my prayers that day, and still is a part of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this one has to be the last I’ll share, from a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/forum/topics/elders-corner?xg_source=activity&amp;id=2360685%3ATopic%3A110091&amp;page=2#comments">QuakerQuaker discussion started by Richard B Miller and titled “Elders’ Corner”</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Like you, I learned about the role of elders from Conservative Friends (in Canada and Ohio).&nbsp; In the context of my own meeting (and quarter), however, there are Friends who can and do serve as guides and sounding boards — offering corrections as may be required.&nbsp; Ideally, elders should arise from the monthly meetings, and then be recognized in larger bodies of Friends, not necessarily being named by a yearly meeting nominating committee.</p>
<p>I was asked to serve as an elder for Yearly Meeting/Interim Meeting… but because I was also on the nominating committee, had a “stop” about whether that was rightly ordered. I consulted some North Carolina Friends, who agreed with the “stop”.</p>
<p>One difficulty that you raised is that many of the conservative Friends who held that tradition are no longer available as guides… One effect is that the role elders once played is diminishing among conservative Friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>I’m feeling pretty broken up right now. And I’m feeling the weight of this loss. I’ve found myself more and more to be the one giving out advice and giving historical context that newer Friends might not have. It’s the kind of perch that Christine had. I’m only starting to appreciate that she formed a gentle mentoring role for me—and I’m sure for many others.</p>
<p>A few years ago my wife and I lost our remaining parents (her dad, my mom) and we had the unescapable recognition that we were now the oldest generation. I know there are older Friends around still and some have bits of Christine’s wit and wisdom. But one of our human guides have left us.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, reader James F. used my&#160;“Ask me anything!” page&#160;to wonder&#160;about two types of Friends: I’ve read a little and watched various videos about the Friends. My questions are , is there a gulf between “conservative” friends and liberal? As well as what defines the two generally? I’m in Maryland near D.C. Do [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>A few weeks ago, reader James F. used my&nbsp;“<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/ask-me-anything/">Ask me anything!</a>” page&nbsp;to wonder&nbsp;about two types of Friends:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve read a little and watched various videos about the Friends. My questions are , is there a gulf between “conservative” friends and liberal? As well as what defines the two generally? I’m in Maryland near D.C. Do Quakers who define themselves as essentially Christian worship with those who don’t identify as such?</p></blockquote>
<p>Hi James, what a great question! I think many of us don’t fully appreciate the confusion we sow when we casually use&nbsp;these terms in our online discussions. They can be useful rhetorical shortcuts but sometimes I think we give them more weight than they deserve. I worry that&nbsp;Friends sometimes come off as more divided along these lines than we really are. Over the years I’ve noticed a certain kind of rigid online&nbsp;seeker who dissects theological discussions with such conviction&nbsp;that they’ll refused to even visit their nearest&nbsp;meeting because it’s not the right type. That’s so tragic.</p>
<h3>What the terms&nbsp;don’t mean</h3>
<p>The first and most common problem is that people don’t realize we’re using these terms in a specifically Quaker context. “Liberal” and “Conservative” don’t refer to&nbsp;political ideologies. One&nbsp;can be a Conservative Friend and vote for liberal or socialist politicians, for example.</p>
<p>Adding to the complications is that these can be&nbsp;imprecise terms. Quaker bodies themselves typically do not identify as either Liberal or Conservative. While local congregations often have their own unique characteristics, culture, and style, nothing goes on the sign out front. Our regional bodies, called yearly meetings, are the highest authority in Quakerism but I can’t think of any that doesn’t&nbsp;span some diversity of theologies.</p>
<p>Historically (and currently) we’ve had the situation where a yearly meeting will split into two separate bodies. The causes can be complex; theology is a piece, but demographics and mainstream&nbsp;cultural shifts also play a huge role. In centuries past (and kind of ridiculously, today still), both of the newly reorganized yearly meetings were obsessed with keeping&nbsp;the name&nbsp;as a way to claim&nbsp;their legitimacy. To tell them apart we’d append awkward and incomplete labels, so in the past we had Philadelphia Yearly Meeting (Hicksite) and Philadelphia Yearly Meeting (Orthodox).</p>
<p>In the United States, we have two places where yearly meetings&nbsp;compete names and one side’s labelled appendage is “Conservative,” giving us Iowa Yearly Meeting (Conservative) and North Carolina Yearly Meeting (Conservative). Over time, both of these yearly meetings have diversified to the point where they contain outwardly Liberal&nbsp;monthly meetings. The name&nbsp;Conservative in the yearly meeting title has become partly administrative.</p>
<p>A third yearly meeting is usually also included in the list of Conservative bodies. Present-day Ohio Yearly Meeting once competed with <em>two</em> other Ohio Yearly Meetings for the name but is the only one using it&nbsp;today. The name “Ohio Yearly Meeting (Conservative)” is still sometimes seen, but it’s unnecessary, not technically correct, and not used in the yearly meeting’s formal correspondence. (You want to know more? The yearly meeting’s clerk maintains a website that <a href="http://www.quaker-chronicle.info">goes amazingly deep into the history of Ohio Friends</a>).</p>
<p>All that said, these three yearly meetings have more than their share of traditionalist Christian Quaker members. Ohio’s&nbsp;gatherings have the highest percentage of plain dressing- and speaking- Friends around (though even there,&nbsp;they are&nbsp;a minority).&nbsp;But other&nbsp;yearly meetings will have individual members and sometimes whole monthly meetings that could be accurately&nbsp;described as Conservative Quaker.</p>
<p>I&nbsp;might have upset some folks with these observations. In all aspects of life you’ll find people who are very&nbsp;attached to labels. That’s what the comment section is for.</p>
<h3>The meanings of the terms</h3>
<p>Formal identities aside, there&nbsp;are good reasons we use the concept of&nbsp;Liberal and Conservative Quakerism. They denote a general approach to the world and a way of incorporating our history, our Christian heritage, our understanding of the role of Christ in our discernment, and the format and pace&nbsp;of our group decision making.</p>
<p>But at the same time there’s all sorts of diversity and personal and local histories involved. It’s hard to talk about any of this in concrete terms without dissolving into footnotes and qualifications&nbsp;and long discourses about the differences between various historical sub-movements within Friends (<a href="http://www.snowcamp.org/shocf/shocframes.html">queue awesome 16000-word history</a>).</p>
<p>Many of us comfortably span both worlds.&nbsp;In writing, I sometimes try to escape the weight of the most overused labels by substituting&nbsp;more generic terms, like traditional Friends or Christ-centered Friends. These terms also get problematic if you scratch at them too hard. Reminder: God is the Word and our language is by definition limiting.</p>
<p>If you like the sociology&nbsp;of such things, Isabel Penraeth wrote a fascinating article in <em>Friends Journal</em> a few years ago, <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/understanding-ourselves-respecting-differences/">Understanding Ourselves, Respecting the Differences</a>. More recently in <em>FJ</em> a Philadelphia Friend, John Andrew Gallery, visited Ohio Friends and talked about the spiritual refreshment of Conservative Friends in <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/ohio-yearly-meeting-quaker-spring/">Ohio Yearly Meeting Gathering and Quaker Spring</a>. Much of the discussion around the modern phrase <a href="http://www.convergentfriends.org">Convergent Friends</a> and the threads&nbsp;on <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/">QuakerQuaker</a> has focused on those who span a Liberal and Conservative Quaker worldview.</p>
<p>The distinction between Conservatives and Liberals&nbsp;can become quite evident when you observe how Friends conduct a&nbsp;business meeting or how they present themselves. It’s all too&nbsp;easy to veer into caricature&nbsp;here but Liberal Friends are prone to reinventions and the use of <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/testimonies_for_twentiethfirst/">imprecise secular language</a>, whileConservative Friends are&nbsp;attached to&nbsp;established processes and can be unwelcoming to change that might disrupt internal unity.</p>
<p>But even these brief observations are imprecise and can mask&nbsp;surprisingly similar talents and&nbsp;stumbling blocks. We all of us are humans, after all. The Inward Christ is always available to instruct and comfort, just as we are all broken and prone&nbsp;to act impulsively against that advice.</p>
<h3>Worshipping?</h3>
<p>Finally, pretty much all Friends will worship with anyone. Most local congregations have their own distinct flavor. There are some in which the ministry is largely Christian, with a Quaker-infused explanation of a parable or gospel, while there are others where you’ll rarely hear Christ mentioned. You should try out different meetings and see which ones feed your soul. Be ready to find nurturance in unexpected places.&nbsp;God may instruct&nbsp;us to serve anywhere with no notice, as he did the Good Samaritan.&nbsp;Christ isn’t bound by any of our silly words.</p>
<p>Thanks to James for the question!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[On a recent evening I met up with Gathering in Light Wess, who was in Philadelphia for a Quaker-sponsored peace conference. Over the next few hours, six of us went out for a great dinner, Wess and I tested some testimonies, and a revolving group of Friends ended up around a table in the conference’s [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a recent evening I met up with <a href="http://www.gatheringinlight.com/">Gathering in Light Wess</a>, who was in Philadelphia for a Quaker-sponsored peace conference. Over the next few hours, six of us went out for <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/kingdom-of-vegetarians-restaurant-philadelphia#hrid:11t7dYSSc9bWX8fu3g4TFA">a great dinner</a>, Wess and I <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/buffalo-billiards-philadelphia#hrid:qDYzC_5ChziAy3_hg4oUsA">tested some testimonies</a>,<br>
and a revolving group of Friends ended up around a table in the<br>
conference’s hotel lobby talking late into the night (the links are<br>
Wess’ reviews, these days you can reverse stalk him through his Yelp<br>
account). </p>
<p>Of all of the many people I spoke with, only one had any kind of<br>
featured role at the conference. Without exception my conversation<br>
partners were fascinating and insightful about the issues that had<br>
brought them to Philadelphia, yet I sensed a pervading sense of missed<br>
opportunity: hundreds of lives rearranged and thousands of air miles<br>
flown mostly to listen to others talk. I spent my long commute home<br>
wondering what it would have been like to have spent the weekend in the<br>
hotel lobby recording ten minute Youtube interviews with as many<br>
conference participants as I could. We would have ended up with a<br>
snapshot of faith-based peace organizing circa 2009.</p>
<p>Next weekend I’ll be burning up more of the ozone layer by flying to California to co-lead a workshop with Wess and <a href="http://robinmsf.blogspot.com/">Robin M</a>. (details at <a href="http://convergentfriends.org/">ConvergentFriends.org</a>,<br>
I’m sure we can squeeze more people in!) The participant list looks<br>
fabulous. I don’t know everyone but there’s at least half a dozen<br>
people coming who I would be thrilled to take workshops from. I really<br>
don’t want to spend the weekend hearing myself talk! I also know there<br>
are plenty of people who can’t come because of commitments and costs.</p>
<p>So we’re going to try some experiments–they might work, they might not. On QuakerQuaker, there’s a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/group/2009reclaiming">new group for the event</a> and a <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/forum/topics/event-talk-2009-reclaiming-the">discussion thread</a> open to all QQ members (sign up is quick and painless). For those of you comfortable with the <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/notes/Contributor_Instructions">QQ tagging system</a>, the Delicious tag for the event is “quaker.reclaiming2009”. Robin M has proposed using <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=convergentfriends">#convergentfriends</a> as our Twitter hashtag. </p>
<p>There’s all sorts of mad things we could try (Ustream video or live<br>
blogging via Twitter, anyone?), wacky wacky stuff that would distract<br>
us from whatever message the Inward Christ might be trying to give us.<br>
But behind all this is a real questions about why and how we should<br>
gather together as Friends. As the banking system tanks, as the environment<br>
strains, as communications costs drop and we find ourselves in a <a href="http://otherexcuses.blogspot.com/2009/01/social-media-vs-recession.html">curious new economy</a>, what challenges and opportunities open up?</p>
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