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		<title>President of Southern Baptist Theological Seminiary on Simon Jenkins article</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2018 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chalk this one up as another whisper-down-the-lane. As readers will probably remember, a few weeks ago, non-Friend Simon Jenkins wrote an&#160;opinion piece in The Guardian about the possibility of British Friends dropping God from their Faith and Practice. There were a lot of exaggerations in it; the yearly meeting session was mostly deciding whether it [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chalk this one up as another whisper-down-the-lane. As readers will probably remember, a few weeks ago, non-Friend Simon Jenkins wrote an&nbsp;<a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/the-quakers-are-right-we-dont-need-god/">opinion piece in The Guardian</a> about the possibility of British Friends dropping God from their <em>Faith and Practice</em>. There were a lot of exaggerations in it; the yearly meeting session was mostly deciding whether it it <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/british-quakers-take-long-hard-look-at-faith/">felt led to start the long process of revising the document of Friends’ belief and practice</a>. Many yearly meetings do this every generation or so. AFAIK, there was no substantive discussion on what the revisions might bring. At the time, I speculated that “Jenkins is chasing the headline to advance his own argument without regard to how his statement might polarize Friends.”</p>
<p>Now we have another headline chaser. The president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary more or less <a href="https://albertmohler.com/2018/05/14/briefing-5-14-18/">reads Jenkins’s piece aloud on his radio show</a>&nbsp;(hat-tip havedanson on the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Quakers/comments/8jmaee/southern_baptist_leader_comments_on_guardian/?st=jh7w5uff&amp;sh=595313b3">Quakers subreddit</a>).&nbsp;He lightly skips over the fact that Jenkins isn’t Quaker and admits to limited experience of Quaker worship. The SBTS president, Albert Mohler, repeatedly calls the Guardian article a “news report” even though it is clearly labeled as an opinion piece.&nbsp;If any publicity is good publicity then it’s good that non-Friends like Jenkins and now Mohler are talking about the decision-making process of a Quaker yearly meeting, but this is stupid piled on stupid.</p>
<p>From a media perspective, I get it: Mohler has a daily 24-minute podcast to fill. He has interns who scan buzzy news items. They rearrange the text with interstitials like “he continues, and I quote” and “he goes on to say” so that Mohler can spend five minutes reading an article without sounding like he’s just reading an article. But seriously, how does the president of a major seminary have such disregard for anything approaching academic rigor? Also: how much regurgitated junk is on the internet simply because people need to fill time? The Quaker caution about giving ministry just because you’re paid to give ministry and it’s time to give ministry seems apt in this case.</p>
<blockquote class="wp-embedded-content" data-secret="6XJ7ZuIHCP"><p><a href="https://albertmohler.com/2018/05/14/briefing-5-14-18/">Monday, May 14, 2018</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Bulldozing the U.N.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2005 08:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[President Bush has nominated a “foe of the United Nations to be its U.S. ambassador”:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13790-2005Mar7.html. Ten years ago he declared: “There’s no such thing as the United Nations,” and went on to say “If the U.N. secretary building in New York lost 10 stories, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.” This is a fellow [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Bush has nominated a “foe of the United Nations to be its U.S. ambassador”:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13790-2005Mar7.html. Ten years ago he declared: “There’s no such thing as the United Nations,” and went on to say “If the U.N. secretary building in New York lost 10 stories, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.” This is a fellow who called his role in withdrawling the U.S. signature on the treaty ratifying the International Criminal Court “the happiest moment of my government service”:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13790-2005Mar7.html.  The Guardian reports that “fought arms control agreements, a strengthening of the biological weapons convention and the comprehensive test ban treaty”:http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1432701,00.html?gusrc=rss. With his nomination, the Bush Administration continues its course of unilaterialism and open contempt for the world community. Not a good way to build a last peace.</p>
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		<title>Where’s the grassroots contemporary nonviolence movement?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’ve long noticed there are few active, online peace sites or communities that have the grassroots depth I see occurring elsewhere on the net. It’s a problem for Nonviolence.org [update: a project since laid down], as it makes it harder to find a diversity of stories. I have two types of sources for Nonviolence.org.&#160;The first [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve long noticed there are few active, online peace sites or communities that have the grassroots depth I see occurring elsewhere on the net. It’s a problem for Nonviolence.org [update: a project since laid down], as it makes it harder to find a diversity of stories.</p>
<p>I have two types of sources for Nonviolence.org.&nbsp;The first is mainstream news. I&nbsp;search through Google News, Technorati current events, then maybe the New York Times, The Guardian, and the Washington Post.</p>
<p>There are lots of interesting articles on the war in iraq, but there’s always a political spin somewhere, especially in timing. Most big news stories have broken in one month, died down, and then become huge news three months later (e.g., Wilson’s CIA wife being exposed, which was first reported on Nonviolence.org on July 22 but became headlines in early October). These news cycles are driven by domestic party politics, and at times I feel all my links make Nonviolence.org sound like an apparatchik of the Democratic Party USA.</p>
<p>But it’s not just the tone that makes mainstream news articles a problem–it’s also the general subject matter. There’s a lot more to nonviolence than antiwar exposes, yet the news rarely covers anything about the culture of peace. “If it bleeds it leads” is an old newspaper slogan and you will never learn about the wider scope of nonviolence by reading the papers.</p>
<p>My second source is peace movement websites</p>
<p>And these are, by-and-large, uninteresting. Often they’re not updated frequently. But even when they are, the pieces on them can be shallow. You’ll see the self-serving press release (“as a peace organization we protest war actions”) and you’ll see the exclamatory all-caps screed (“eND THe OCCUPATION NOW!!!”). These are fine as long as you’re already a member of said organization or already have decided you’re against the war, but there’s little persuasion or dialogue possible in this style of writing and organizing.</p>
<p>There are few people in the larger peace movement who regularly write pieces that are interesting to those outside our narrow circles. David McReynolds and Geov Parrish are two of those exceptions. It takes an ability to sometimes question your own group’s consensus and to acknowledge when nonviolence orthodoxy sometimes just doesn’t have an answer.</p>
<p>And what of peace bloggers? I really admire Joshua Micah Marshall, but he’s not a pacifist. There’s the excellent Gutless Pacifist (who’s led me to some very interesting websites over the last year), Bill Connelly/Thoughts on the eve, Stand Down/No War Blog, and a new one for me, The Picket Line. But most of us are all pointing to the same mainstream news articles, with the same Iraq War focus.</p>
<p>If the web had started in the early 1970s, there would have been lots of interesting publishing projects and blogs growing out the activist communities. Younger people today are using the internet to sponsor interesting gatherings and using sites like Meetup to build connections, but I don’t see communities built around peace the way they did in the early 1970s. There are few people building a life–hope, friends, work–around pacifism.</p>
<p>Has “pacifism” become ossified as its own in-group dogma of a certain generation of activists? What links can we build with current movements? How can we deepen and expand what we mean by nonviolence so that it relates to the world outside our tiny organizations?</p>
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		<title>“Have you ever felt like the fall guy?”</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In strange and sad news, the man who was probably the unnamed “senior official” who first told the BBC that Britain “sexed up” its Iraq weapons dossier has turned up dead in the woods near his home. Dr. David Kelly gave evidence to the UK foreign affairs committee just days ago, where he asked the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In strange and sad news, the man who was probably the unnamed “senior official” who first told the BBC that Britain “sexed up” its Iraq weapons dossier has <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3076801.stm">turned up dead in the woods near his home</a>. Dr. David Kelly gave evidence to the UK foreign affairs committee just days ago, where he asked the committee “Have you ever felt like the fall guy?” One member of the committee told the Guardian that “<a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1000922,00.html">We thought he’d been put up quite deliberately to distract us from the case of the government’s case for war.</a>”</p>
<p>David Kelly has been described as a “soft spoken” man <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3076869.stm">not used to the public glare he’s been under</a>. Reports haven’t even given the cause of death, so conspiracy theories will have to be put on hold. It’s quite possible that this faithful civil servant and scientist finally cracked under the pressure of the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3077059.stm">media onslaught</a> and took his life. It is a tragedy for his family.</p>
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