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					<description><![CDATA[I’m pretty used to the standard rhetorical paths of Quaker stories after so many years as an editor but every once in a while one comes along and knocks my socks off. I’ve written before that I’m not a fan of the “when to speak in meeting” flowcharts Friends sometimes post in the meetinghouse to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I’m pretty used to the standard rhetorical paths of Quaker stories after so many years as an editor but every once in a while one comes along and knocks my socks off.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I’ve written before<span id="easy-footnote-1-280036" class="easy-footnote-margin-adjust"></span><span class="easy-footnote"><a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/ready-to-die-for-the-silence/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-280036" title="See: <a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/retro-quaker-vocal-ministry-flowchart/&quot;>Retro Quaker Vocal Ministry Flowchart</a>, <a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/an-expected-miracle/&quot;>An Expected Miracle</a>."><sup>1</sup></a></span> that I’m not a fan of the “when to speak in meeting” flowcharts Friends sometimes post in the meetinghouse to discourage vocal ministry. One is expected to test an incoming message against half a dozen queries and only speak if they can clear them all in the space of an hour. A lot of newcomers see these and decide to just keep quiet.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Christine Hartmann was just one of these new attenders. She writes “after studying all this, I decided to hold off speaking in meeting, if at all possible, for fear of getting it wrong.” She was <em>so</em> careful and <em>so</em> scrupulous that her silence almost cost her her life. <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/breaking-the-silence/">I’m not kidding. Literally. Read the article. Wild, wild</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">(Yes, there are disruptive newcomers who give inappropriate ministry in Quaker worship. In my experience they’re rarely the ones sitting down and studying flowcharts. The visitors these charts deter are the careful and thoughtful ones who are already tying themselves in knots wondering whether they should speak. These are the folks you want to encourage.) </p>



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		<title>An Open Letter To David Byrne from Radio Paradise</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Radio Paradise is one of my go-to online radio stations. Much of my music discovery in the last five years has come from its thoughtful and eclectic feed. The music scene in this country would be truly impoverished if these small niche stations were shut down because of unsustainable&#160;licensing charges. Apparently David Bryne is one [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radio Paradise is one of my go-to online radio stations. Much of my music discovery in the last five years has come from its thoughtful and eclectic feed. The music scene in this country would be truly impoverished if these small niche stations were shut down because of unsustainable&nbsp;licensing charges. Apparently David Bryne is one of the people who decides these things. Let’s hope he supports musical diversity and quirkiness.</p>
<p><a href="https://t.co/BmZoz8wYtM">An Open Letter To David Byrne – RAIN News</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[There’s been some head-scratching going on about QuakerQuaker over the last few weeks. In the service of transparency I’ve posted my contributor guidelines on the “About QuakerQuaker page”. Here they are: Post should be explicitly Quaker: Any thoughtful posts from any branch of Friends that wrestles in some way with what it means to be [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s been some head-scratching going on about QuakerQuaker over the last few weeks. In the service of transparency I’ve posted my contributor guidelines on the “<a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/notes/Notes_Home">About QuakerQuaker page</a>”. Here they are:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Post should be explicitly Quaker:</strong> Any thoughtful posts from any branch of Friends that wrestles in some way with what it means to be a Quaker is fair game. While we all have our own issues that connect deeply with our understanding of our faith, the Blogwatch only seems to work if it keeps focused on Quakerism, on how we our faith and lives interact. Back when this was just a links list on my personal site I would get complaints when I added something that seemed related to my understanding of Quakerism but that wasn’t specifically written from a Quaker standpoint (when we want to make this kind of link we should do so on our personal blogs where we can put it in better context).</p>
<p><strong>Post should be timely</strong>: I’ve billed QuakerQuaker as “a guide to the Quaker conversation” and links should go to recently-written articles with strong voices. We’re not trying to create a comprehensive list of Quaker websites, so no linking to organizational homepages. While most links should go to blog posts, it’s fine to include good articles from Quaker publications. A link to something like a press release or new book announcement should only be made if it’s extraordinary. Remember that QuakerQuaker posts will only appear on the main site for a few days (if the initial setup goes well I can start work on some ideas to giave a more timeless element to the site).</p>
<p><strong>Post should be Interesting:</strong> Don’t bookmark everything you find. If the post feels predictable or snoozy, just ignore it (even if the writer or topic is important). The Quaker bloggers all have their audiences and we don’t need to highlight every post of every blogger. Only make the link if the post speaks out to you in some way (it’s quite possible that one of the other contributors will pick up, finding something you didn’t and highlighting it in their description). That said, the posts you link to don’t have to be masterpieces; they can have grammatical and logical mistakes. What’s important is that there’s some idea in there that’s interesting. It might be a good discipline for each of us not to add our the posts from our own personal blogs but to let one of the other contributors do it for us.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s it. While there are some vague assumptions in all this about the role of tradition and community, discipline and individualism, there’s nothing about theology or who gets linked. This is a publication, with something of an editorial voice in that I’ve chosen who gets to add links and asked them to be subjective, but its very mellow and I’ve been happy to see contributors range far afield. Google tells us that this is one of 18.7 <em>million</em> “Quaker” websites and $10/month will get you your own so let’s not do too much navel-gazing about what’s linked or not linked. If you don’t find it interesting, there are plenty of non-subjective Quaker blogs lists out there. I do listen to feedback and am always twiddling with the site so feel free to send email to me at <a href="http://www.martinkelley.com/contact">martinkelley.com/contact</a>.</p>
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