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		<title>Hard questions on Ukraine invasion anniversary</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2023 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From British Quakers: Quakers have been asking some very hard questions about their testimony to peace and their forms of pacifism following the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. They are hard because there are no simple right answers.]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/hard-questions-ukraine-invasion-anniversary">From British Quakers</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Quakers have been asking some very hard questions about their testimony to peace and their forms of pacifism following the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. They are hard because there are no simple right answers.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Ukraine and the dilemmas of pacifism</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Johan Maurer But let’s say you and I have put all our eggs into the Jesus basket. Abandoning nonviolence is simply not an option. What can we say that is different from the calculations of our peace-loving friends and neighbors who are casting about for political solutions and compromises when evidence suggests that the [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://blog.canyoubelieve.me/2022/05/ukraine-and-dilemmas-of-pacifism.html">From Johan Maurer</a></p>
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  But let’s say you and I have put all our eggs into the Jesus basket. Abandoning nonviolence is simply not an option. What can we say that is different from the calculations of our peace-loving friends and neighbors who are casting about for political solutions and compromises when evidence suggests that the aggressor is completely uninterested in what we think of him?</p></blockquote>
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		<title>The Quaker Peace Testimony and Ukraine</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2022 14:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over on Friends Journal, the head of Sidwell Friends School on Quakers and pacifism is getting some attention, in part I think because it’s not absolutist on pacifism: Quakers are short on dogma and long on discernment, a process that calls individuals to interrogate circumstances, seek truth, and act upon their conscience. Over the centuries [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Over on <em>Friends Journal</em>, the head of Sidwell Friends School on <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/the-peace-testimony-and-ukraine/">Quakers and pacifism is getting some attention</a>, in part I think because it’s not absolutist on pacifism:</p>



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<p>Quakers are short on dogma and long on discernment, a process that calls individuals to interrogate circumstances, seek truth, and act upon their conscience. Over the centuries individual Quakers have engaged in warfare provided they deemed the cause just. Somewhere between thirty and fifty percent of eligible U.S. and British Quakers fought in World War I, and approximately three-quarters chose to bear arms in World War II. </p>
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<p>History is history, of course, and Friends’ attitudes have actually been more fluid than our peace testimony would let on. The first rejoinder online comes from <a href="https://www.friendsjournal.org/the-peace-testimony-and-ukraine/#comment-215668">Don Badgley</a>:</p>



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<p>So, let us be clear; without the direct and present leadership of the Divine Source, our so-called “testimonies” crumble to dust. Absent that One Source these “testimonies” are little more than religio-political posturing, relics—and impossible to justify, especially within the context of the actual evil we see in the world today. Alternatively, when we testify to the whole world about the life-altering Truths that originate in our Experience of the Divine Presence, that ministry is imbued with a vital, even miraculous power. </p>
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<p>As in most things Quaker, I find myself intellectually in agreement with both of them (we’ve got a complicated history). I’m personally quite pacifist. Even defensive wars kill innocents and liberatory good guys have become tyrants over and over again in history. But I have to admit I’ve been quite grateful to see Ukrainians successfully holding the Russian army at bay. I think it’s possible for pacifists to be strategic and even have an edge of <em>realpolitik</em> as we question war-making, both philosophically and tactically. </p>



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		<title>George Lakey on people power in Ukraine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2022 21:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Quaker activist looks back at nonviolent resistance struggles to previous superpower invasions in places like 1968 Czechoslovakia and 1940s Denmark. What strikes me as extraordinary about these and other successful cases is that the nonviolent combatants engaged in their struggle without the benefit of training. What army commander would order troops into combat without [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Quaker activist <a href="https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/02/ukraine-doesnt-need-to-match-russias-military-might-to-defend-against-invasion/">looks back at nonviolent resistance struggles</a> to previous superpower invasions in places like 1968 Czechoslovakia and 1940s Denmark.</p>
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  What strikes me as extraordinary about these and other successful cases is that the nonviolent combatants engaged in their struggle without the benefit of training. What army commander would order troops into combat without training them first?
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<p>We’ve been talking about these kinds of resistance in peace circles for decades and kudos to Gene Sharp, who categorized a lot of the techniques, and Erica Chenoweth, who has done a lot more recent work. When people doubt that pacifism can work, we can turn to this research to prove it does—or can. The trouble is the body count can get high. Putin’s not an empathetic guy and it seems his paranoia and megalomania is getting worse. I’m worried that he’s not above an extended bloodbath if it feeds his vision of a greater Russian.</p>
<p>https://wagingnonviolence.org/2022/02/ukraine-doesnt-need-to-match-russias-military-might-to-defend-against-invasion/</p>
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		<title>Stop the Zipper War Before It Starts</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is President Clinton talking about a reprise of&#160;the 1991 Persian Gulf War? We’re told it’s because U.N. inspectors believe that&#160;Iraq has hidden “weapons of mass destruction.” But&#160;of course so does the United States. And Britain,&#160;France, Russia, the Ukraine, China, India and&#160;Pakistan. Iraq doesn’t even hold a regional&#160;monopoly, as Israel certainly has atomic weapons&#160;atop U.S.-designed [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is President Clinton talking about a reprise of&nbsp;the 1991 Persian Gulf War?</p>
<p>We’re told it’s because U.N. inspectors believe that&nbsp;Iraq has hidden “weapons of mass destruction.” But&nbsp;of course so does the United States. And Britain,&nbsp;France, Russia, the Ukraine, China, India and&nbsp;Pakistan. Iraq doesn’t even hold a regional&nbsp;monopoly, as Israel certainly has atomic weapons&nbsp;atop U.S.-designed rockets aimed this very moment at&nbsp;Hussein’s Baghdad palaces.</p>
<p>Insanely-destructive weapons are a fact of life in&nbsp;the fin-de-Millennium. There’s already plenty of&nbsp;countries with atomic weapons and the missile&nbsp;systems to lob them into neighboring countries.&nbsp;Hussein probably doesn’t have them, and the weapons&nbsp;U.N. inspectors are worried about are chemical. This&nbsp;is the “poor man’s atomic bomb,” a way to play at&nbsp;the level of nuclear diplomacy without the expenses&nbsp;of a nuclear program.</p>
<p>Clinton seems oblivious to the irony of opposing&nbsp;Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction with our own. The&nbsp;aircraft carriers and battle fleets that have been&nbsp;sent into the Gulf in recent weeks are loaded with&nbsp;tactical nuclear missiles.</p>
<p>If the possession of weapons of mass destruction is&nbsp;wrong for Iraq, then it is wrong for everyone. It is&nbsp;time to abolish all weapons programs and to build&nbsp;real world peace along lines of cooperation.</p>
<p>He’s our Bully</p>
<p>Most Americans, on hearing a call to let Hussein be,&nbsp;will react with disbelief. Conditioned to think of&nbsp;him as our modern Hitler, anyone opposing a new Gulf&nbsp;War must be crazy, someone unfamiliar with the&nbsp;history of the appeasement of Hitler prior to World&nbsp;War II that allowed him to build his military to the&nbsp;frightening levels of 1939.</p>
<p>But Americans have alas not been told too much of&nbsp;more recent history. Saddam Hussein is our creation,&nbsp;he’s our bully. It started with Iran. Obsessed with&nbsp;global military control, the U.S. government started&nbsp;arming regional superpowers. We gave our chosen&nbsp;countries weapons and money to bully around their&nbsp;neighbors and we looked the other way at human&nbsp;rights abuses. We created and strengthened dictators&nbsp;around the world, including the Shah of Iran. A&nbsp;revolution finally threw him out of power and&nbsp;ushered in a government understandable hostile to&nbsp;the United States.</p>
<p>Rather than take this development to mean that the&nbsp;regional superpower concept was a bad idea, the U.S.&nbsp;just chose another regional superpower: Iraq. We&nbsp;looked the other way when the two got into a war,&nbsp;and started building up Iraq’s military arsenal,&nbsp;giving him the planes and military equipment we had&nbsp;given Iran. This was a bloody, crazy war, where huge&nbsp;casualties would be racked up only to move the front&nbsp;a few miles, an advance that would be nullified when&nbsp;the other army attacked with the same level of&nbsp;casualties. The United States supported that war.&nbsp;International human rights activists kept&nbsp;publicizing the abuses within Iraq, and denouncing&nbsp;him for use of chemical weapons. They got little&nbsp;media attention because it was not in U.S. political&nbsp;interests to fight Hussein.</p>
<p>Nothing’s really changed now except U.S. political&nbsp;interests. Hussein is still a tyrant. He’s still&nbsp;stockpiling chemical weapons. Why are U.S. political&nbsp;interests different now? Why does Bill Clinton want&nbsp;U.S. media attention focused on Iraq? Look no&nbsp;further than Big Bill’s zipper. Stop the next war&nbsp;before it starts. Abolish everyone’s weapons of mass&nbsp;destruction and let’s get a President who doesn’t&nbsp;need a war to clear his name.</p>
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