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By: Martin Kelley

Martin Kelley — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:31:13 +0000

Hi Peterson, thanks for your vote of confidence. Last night was the third of the four sessions and what was fascinating was how self-directed it was. Let me get out my notebook.... let's see, we talked about heaven and hell, the afterlife, the Quaker cautions against drinking and gambling and the possibilities for spiritual refreshment offered by long car commutes and showers. We occasionally touched base on our homework readings (Bill Taber's _Four Doors to Meeting for Worship_ and Birkel's chapter on "Nurturing the Inward Life") but the participants were hungry for an opportunity to to talk about these kind of issues among themselves. It can be dangerous letting a group go on its tangents--I've seen situations where the more-forward members start to dominate conversation--and so I kept scanning the circle of eight for any body-language clues that they might be dropping out but everyone kept remarkably engaged. It felt clear to me that my job was to chime in with the traditional Quaker party line on an issue as a point of information, connect their discussion with the reading and keep things going when the conversation started to lag or repeat itself. It's pretty amazing that busy people are willing to spend two hours on a Wednesday night like this.

By: peterson toscano

peterson toscano — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:05:21 +0000

I would LOVE to be a member of your class. I bet I would learn tons and grow in my faith. I agree that we need more than unprogrammed worship. Friends for most of our history spent so much time together talking about their faith, reading the Bible together, sharing meals. In our modern times these moments of faith sharing and growing need to be carved out. Yearly Meeting just is not enough for me. I need more and seek more.
Thanks Martin for articulating this clearly.

By: Martin Kelley

Martin Kelley — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:01:25 +0000

Hi Rob, The whole care & non-care of the meeting issue is an ambiguous one. At this year's FGC Gathering we had some great outreach sessions with Western Friends and one of the most marked differences was how loose they were with formal meeting establishment. Meetings tend to start organically, often without any formal Quaker body even knowing. Some start small and stay small, with no interest in doing anything other than serving a small inward-looking community. Others wait until they've hit a self-defined critical mass and then approach the nearest compatible meeting to discuss formal affiliation. Eastern Friends love their process of course and while I appreciate care and attention in these matters I also have to note that the loose process of Western Friends has actually started a whole lot more meetings! I wouldn't sweat it much. It sounds like your group is doing some very needed work--I'm jealous of course! If and when it's time to hook up with others or incorporate more I trust you'll know it.

By: R

Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:10:11 +0000

hey Martin - A few folks around here (Boston) have been gathering here and there in people's homes for a little worship, singing and what not. It's been a really powerful experience. We managed to pull together a little semi-programmed worship a few months ago, and that seemed to have a bit of life to it. Now, I'm in the process of seeing if folks want to make it a more regular thing, like one Wednesday a month. I'll let you know how it goes. The first thing someone asked was,"Is it under the care of a Meeting?" Yikes. I didn't know how to respond. "No." I guess it depends on a) whether this becomes a regular thing, and b) whether Friends gathered feel like a particular Meeting should be approached on the matter. I looked high and low for guidance on this in F&Ps, and it seemed like all the stuff about worship groups was written on the assumption that they would want to be a full-fledged Meeting one day (or at least act like one), and I'm not at all sure if that's the case. I guess it would help if all the folks who have expressed interest were from the same Meeting, but that's not so. We'll see. Anyway, good ideas and thoughts. Thanks, R