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		By: Laura Orabone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Orabone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194217&quot;&gt;Martin Kelley&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your response. I will share that with my community. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194217">Martin Kelley</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your response. I will share that with my community. 🙂</p>
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		By: Martin Kelley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194216&quot;&gt;Laura Orabone&lt;/a&gt;.

What is effective? A few dozen or a few hundred protesters not paying any taxes won&#039;t make a dent in a trillion dollar war budget. If the WTR movement tripled overnight and was &quot;100%&quot; effective in withholding it&#039;s money there&#039;d still be all the same wars. I know people who have successfully withheld all or most of their money over decades but all this money combined is not even a rounding-off error.

The motivations to do this have to be deeper. Often they&#039;re a religious witness and even secular war tax resisters often seem to have an almost spiritual allegiance to pacifism. I could ask whether Jesus&#039; witness was effective. A defense lawyer would have to answer &quot;no&quot; because he was convicted and executed, but as a Christian I measure success differently: was he true to his spiritual leading, did he effectively model an alternative to violence?, etc. You don&#039;t have to believe anything supernatural to see that the most radical witnesses often work outside the box of rational effectiveness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194216">Laura Orabone</a>.</p>
<p>What is effective? A few dozen or a few hundred protesters not paying any taxes won’t make a dent in a trillion dollar war budget. If the WTR movement tripled overnight and was “100%” effective in withholding it’s money there’d still be all the same wars. I know people who have successfully withheld all or most of their money over decades but all this money combined is not even a rounding-off error.</p>
<p>The motivations to do this have to be deeper. Often they’re a religious witness and even secular war tax resisters often seem to have an almost spiritual allegiance to pacifism. I could ask whether Jesus’ witness was effective. A defense lawyer would have to answer “no” because he was convicted and executed, but as a Christian I measure success differently: was he true to his spiritual leading, did he effectively model an alternative to violence?, etc. You don’t have to believe anything supernatural to see that the most radical witnesses often work outside the box of rational effectiveness.</p>
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		By: Laura Orabone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194215&quot;&gt;Laura Orabone&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, I&#039;d appreciate your views no matter what! ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/war_tax_resistance_overview/#comment-194215">Laura Orabone</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, I’d appreciate your views no matter what! 😉</p>
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		By: Laura Orabone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my understanding that no matter how much one withholds in the name of not supporting war, the military will still take their cut out of whatever amount of taxes one does pay. This being the case, it seems to me that this sort of thing is only &quot;effective&quot; as a form of symbolic protest, but not in actually &quot;not supporting war.&quot; I&#039;d appreciate your views if this is not the case. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s my understanding that no matter how much one withholds in the name of not supporting war, the military will still take their cut out of whatever amount of taxes one does pay. This being the case, it seems to me that this sort of thing is only “effective” as a form of symbolic protest, but not in actually “not supporting war.” I’d appreciate your views if this is not the case. </p>
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