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		<title>Creeds and stories</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isaac Smith was going to write something about creeds: I had been kicking around writing something on the uses and abuses of creeds in the Quaker tradition, but then I discovered that Ben Wood had written a fairly definitive version of that essay already. So read that instead. Ben’s 2016 piece on Quakers and creeds [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isaac Smith <a href="https://theanarchyoftheranters.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/ben-wood-on-creeds/">was going to write</a> something about creeds:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had been kicking around writing something on the uses and abuses of creeds in the Quaker tradition, but then I discovered that Ben Wood had written a fairly definitive version of that essay already. So read that instead.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ben’s <a href="https://summeroflove85.wordpress.com/2016/03/20/quakers-and-creeds/">2016 piece on Quakers and creeds</a> is definitely worth a read. I checked my records and I must have missed it at the time, so I’ll share it now. He goes deep into the kinds of creeds that Penn and Barclay gave in their writings but also what the earlier Christian creed-makers were coming from. He also comes to today. Here’s a taste:</p>
<blockquote><p>we cannot be creed-makers before we are story-preservers and story-tellers. We cannot hope to resolve differences unless and until we dig down into our own Quaker story; unless we come to terms with its power and implications. At least part of our sense of spiritual malaise is a reticence to engage with the depth of the Quaker tale. Partly that reticence is about a lack of teaching ministry among Friends. We haven’t given each other the tools to become skillful readers of our own narrative. We have assumed that people can just ‘pick this stuff up’ through a mysterious process of osmosis. This has led to a fragmentation of understanding about the meaning and implications of Quaker grammar.</p></blockquote>
<p>In my world, talk of creeds has sprung up recently following the QuakerSpeak video of Arthur Larrabee’s <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/what-do-quaker-belief-anyway/">nine core principles of unprogrammed Friends</a>. His principles seem fairly descriptive of mainstream Liberal Friends to me, but predictably enough <a href="http://quakerspeak.com/9-core-quaker-beliefs/#comments">the video’s comments have people worried</a> about any formulation: “Espousing core beliefs—no matter how well intentioned—risks introducing a creed.” One of my pet theories is that the <a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/same_as_it_ever_was/">mid-century truce over theology talk that helped Quaker branches reunite</a> (at least on the U.S. East Coast) has stopped working.</p>
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		<title>Decline and persistence, part two</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So much to chew on in Johan Maurer’s Decline and persistence, part two. Find a good chair and take the time to read. Friends theology strips away all irrelevant social distinctions, giving us the potential for radical hospitality, but that requires us to neutralize elitist signals of all kinds with a hunger to taste heaven’s [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much to chew on in Johan Maurer’s <a href="http://blog.canyoubelieve.me/2018/03/decline-and-persistence-part-two.html">Decline and persistence, part two</a>. Find a good chair and take the time to read.</p>
<blockquote><p>Friends theology strips away all irrelevant social distinctions, giving us the potential for radical hospitality, but that requires us to neutralize elitist signals of all kinds with a hunger to taste heaven’s diversity here and now. If it takes a whole new conversion to give us the necessary freedom and emotional range in place of old class anxieties, so be it.</p></blockquote>
<p>http://blog.canyoubelieve.me/2018/03/decline-and-persistence-part-two.html</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[My workshop partner Wess Daniels just posted an update about the upcoming workshop at Pendle Hill. Here’s the start. Click through to the full post to get a taste of what we’re preparing. Martin Kelley and I will be leading a weekend retreat at Pendle Hill in just a couple weeks (May 14–16) and I’m [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img data-recalc-dims="1" decoding="async" src="https://i0.wp.com/api.ning.com/files/tCGHLjlysty4ue0jGKCFjTriDAaVlFtll4JaL2TIC481Rzg4UrFzTrLge9a-%2AQySjol7b18cOBShN5n6JSvCuJgPXMdy6FCa/skitched20091028113840.jpg?w=640" align="right">My workshop partner <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/">Wess Daniels</a> just posted an update about the upcoming workshop at Pendle Hill. Here’s the start. Click through to the <a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2010/04/28/new-monastics-and-convergent-friends-retreat-outline/">full post</a> to get a taste of what we’re preparing.</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="https://www.quakerranter.org/">Martin Kelley</a> and I will be<br>
leading <a href="http://www.pendlehill.org/workshops/spring-2010/228-new-monastics-and-convergent-friends">a<br>
weekend retreat at Pendle Hill in just a couple weeks (May 14–16)</a><br>
and I’m starting to get really excited about it! Martin and I have been<br>
collaborating a lot together over the past few months in preparation for<br>
this weekend and I wanted to share a little more of what we have<br>
planned for those of you who are interested in coming (or still on the<br>
fence).&nbsp;During the weekend we will be encouraging conversations around<br>
building communities, convergent Friends and how this looks in our local<br>
meetings. I wanted to give the description of the weekend, some of the<br>
queries we’ll be touching on, and the outline for the weekend. And of<br>
course, I want to invite all of you interested parties to join us!</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://gatheringinlight.com/2010/04/28/new-monastics-and-convergent-friends-retreat-outline/">Read the full post on Wess’s blog</a></p>
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		<title>Quaker video outreach, a talk with Raye Hodgson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interview with Raye, a member of Ohio Yearly Meeting Conservative who serves on their Electronic Outreach Committee. You can also watch it on QuakerQuaker: Quaker Video and Electronic Outreach. Raye: Ohio Yearly Meeting holds our yearly meeting in Barnesville Ohio–some people know us as those Barnesville folks. We have an electronic Outreach Committee and [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>An interview with Raye, a member of <a href="http://www.ohioyearlymeeting.org/">Ohio Yearly Meeting Conservative</a> who serves on their Electronic Outreach Committee. You can also watch it on QuakerQuaker: <a href="http://www.quakerquaker.org/video/quaker-video-and-electronic">Quaker Video and Electronic Outreach</a>.</b></p>
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<p><b>Raye:</b> Ohio Yearly Meeting holds our yearly meeting in Barnesville Ohio–some people know us as those Barnesville folks. We have an electronic Outreach Committee and that includes the oversight and ministry associated with our website. We spend time thinking about how to open up to people who might be interested in Friends’ ways and might want to know more about us whether or not they’ve ever read the Journal of George Fox. We’re trying to expand our witness, if you will.</p>
<p>One of the questions that has come up in this electronic outreach group is: what types of communication or video are useful for someone to get to know us but also respectful of the fact that we do worship and that worship is a spiritually intimate time. We’re trying to bridge and deal with respecting the worshippers, the Friends themselves, to not put on a performance and yet to try to communicate what it is that is edifying in practice and worship.</p>
<p><b>Martin:</b> How do you give newcomers a taste of Quakers without directing it too much? If you just have that silent empty box it’s hard for newcomers to know what should be filling that box.</p>
<p><b>Raye:</b> One of the things Friends have done for hundreds of years is to publish, to keep journals and to share that. But that’s not all there is to the Friends experience. There are those quiet times and those moments of ministry that we believe are Spirit-inspired. Many of us wish we could give people a little taste of that because that doesn’t show up in a lot of published writings. That spontaneous and timely, and at times prophetic, witness that we see in our Meetings. We have considered digital video as a way to do that.</p>
<p><b>Martin:</b> I love the video possibilities here. Video can be a way of reaching out to more people.</p>
<p><b>Raye:</b> It’s not just anything that can be written. Certainly the writings that have been published are very helpful in getting some sort of a glimmer of where we have been, or in some cases where we are headed or where we are. But there is nothing like that experience of being with Friends in meeting. It doesn’t always happen but there are these moments called a covered meeting or a gathered meeting where everybody seems to be in the same place spiritually and when seems to be messages and gifts coming through people. That’s difficult to get across.</p>
<p>We’re hoping that with video we can discuss these kinds of things after the fact. We don’t want to turn it into a spectator sport or performance.</p>
<p><b>Martin:</b> Authenticity is a key part of the Quaker message. You’re not practicing what you’re going to say for First Day or Sunday. You’re sitting there and waiting for that immediate spirit to come upon you.</p>
<p><b>Raye:</b> We don’t know when that will happen. There are meetings where everybody is very quiet, where there’s a sense of that spirit and unity but it may be an outwardly quiet meeting. I have been in meetings where someone stood up and began to sing their message or a psalm or someone had a wonderful sermon that was perfect for the moment. These things happen but we don’t know when they will.</p>
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