Cesar Chavez and me

March 19, 2026

Wow, so stunned to read the reports of Cesar Chavez abus­ing young girls and rap­ing Unit­ed Farm Work­er VP Dolores Huer­ta.

In the mid-80s I was one of the many ide­al­is­tic col­lege kids who interned with the UFW for a sum­mer. I got to hang out with him a num­ber of times. His son-in-law ran the NYC-based media cam­paign and Cesar would come for plan­ning meet­ings but also to vis­it his daugh­ter and grand­kids. She made great cheese enchi­ladas and all of us would talk late into the night as he told stories.

I do remem­ber think­ing — and ask­ing — why the saint­ed VP Dolores Huer­ta nev­er actu­al­ly seemed all that involved, at least not to the point of ever com­ing East that sum­mer to par­tic­i­pate in NYC-based media strat­e­gy meet­ings. It was explained she was need­ed back in Cal­i­for­nia.1 I nev­er met her. I remem­ber not being sur­prised at all that she did­n’t ascend to the UFW pres­i­den­cy when Cesar died. It went instead to the son-in-law who had led our office.

My direct super­vi­sor was a schlub and sex­ist pig. He was always mak­ing inap­pro­pri­ate­ly sug­ges­tive com­ments to the young female interns, which they uni­ver­sal­ly laughed off. They were all smart, con­fi­dent women with futures who weren’t going to be put off by him. I was the only male intern that sum­mer and he put me in shit­ty assign­ments, pres­sur­ing me to drop out. I assume I was seen as com­pe­ti­tion and indeed I did start dat­ing a fel­low intern (the only rea­son I put up with his behav­ior and made it through the sum­mer). I see he’s still with the UFW, now list­ed as first vice pres­i­dent, which is not at all inspiring.

It was per­haps the most dys­func­tion­al office cul­ture I’ve ever seen. The union’s influ­ence had obvi­ous­ly declined since the heady days of RFK march­ing with Cesar in huge ral­lies. They seemed to jump from fad to fad hop­ing to recap­ture atten­tion. That year direct mar­ket­ing was all the rage in busi­ness cir­cles and the UFW was jump­ing in with both feet. We would spend hours in meet­ings set­ting unre­al­is­tic expec­ta­tions, then break our own guide­lines to “meet” them. I’d be called out for try­ing to do things the way we had agreed. I remem­ber won­der­ing if any of the office work I did that sum­mer actu­al­ly made a jot of dif­fer­ence. Help­ing to orga­nize East Coast appear­ances of Cesar was def­i­nite­ly the high­light of the sum­mer — well, that and the girl­friend and get­ting to hang out in New York City all the time.

I do have to won­der now if some of the dys­func­tion and sex­ism in the office was ulti­mate­ly relat­ed to Cesar’s repeat­ed molesta­tion of chil­dren.2 Did he fos­ter a cul­ture in which we laughed off bad behav­ior and did­n’t ques­tion poor management?

NYTimes inves­ti­ga­tion

Less is More: The Testament of Ann Lee

January 27, 2026
Stir­ring ren­di­tion of a song first pub­lished a full cen­tu­ry after this ocean pas­sage.

I was real­ly look­ing for­ward to The Tes­ta­ment of Ann Lee, the biopic of Shak­er founder Ann Lee, direct­ed and cowrit­ten by Mona Fastvold and star­ring Aman­da Seyfried as the tit­u­lar char­ac­ter. My wife and I have read a bunch of books on Shak­ers over the last few years, includ­ing at least one cit­ed by the film­mak­ers in the end cred­its. We knew from the trail­er that this would be a Hol­ly­wood treat­ment, with Ann Lee played by a lithe­some young blonde actress but we fig­ured it might be inter­est­ing enough anyway.

Nope. It didn’t feel as if the direc­tor real­ly under­stood either the the­ol­o­gy behind Shak­er aes­thet­ics or the pro­found odd­ness of Moth­er Ann. Much of the movie leaned heav­i­ly on music-video styling, with wall-of sound elec­tron­i­ca and well-trained singing voic­es rework­ing Shak­er hymns, all set to care­ful­ly chore­o­graphed dance scenes. That would be fine for a Pat Bene­tar biopic but the real Shak­ers were fierce­ly against musi­cal instru­ments (they con­sid­ered them used “to excite las­civ­i­ous­ness, and to invite and stim­u­late men to destroy each oth­ers’ lives”). I’ve always imag­ined that danc­ing would have been more of the ran­dom repet­i­tive trance of hip­py or all-night raver — chaot­ic, unpre­dictable, pro­found­ly un-synchronized.

I cer­tain­ly under­stand that cre­ators of peri­od dra­mas some­times feel the need to go off in ahis­tor­i­cal direc­tions, espe­cial­ly in their use of music, as a way of set­ting a mood. But the plain­ness of Shak­er music and dance is pre­cise­ly its point. To make it too per­fect is to mis­un­der­stand the the­ol­o­gy itself.

The Ann Lee in my head canon isn’t a come­ly fig­ure with a lust for mys­ti­cal visions, burn­ing truth and kind­ness for all. She’s short, kind of shape­less, illit­er­ate, but most of all she’s unpre­dictable, by turns kind and mean, but also bat­shit and manip­u­la­tive. The movie only has one scene about her con­fes­sions (a tame depic­tion at that), which is a shame as con­fes­sions were a core part of Moth­er Ann-era Shak­er bond­ing. When peo­ple came to join or even vis­it the Shak­ers, she would con­front them to con­fess all their sins in great detail. It was a humil­i­at­ing process and not by acci­dent: per­son­al humil­i­a­tion is a key tac­tic for all cults. There’s an implied black­mail, as embar­rass­ing details could be shared pub­licly of any­one who might change their mind and want to leave. Anoth­er com­mon cult tac­tic is sep­a­rat­ing indi­vid­u­als from their fam­i­lies, also an essen­tial part of the Shak­er experience.

In the movie, we see a dra­mat­ic exam­ple of towns­peo­ple ter­ror­iz­ing the Shak­ers but we’re nev­er shown why the locals might be so angry. When peo­ple joined the Shak­ers they split up mar­riages, pulled chil­dren from par­ents, demand­ed con­verts give their mate­r­i­al goods to the col­lec­tive, and turned the new believ­ers against their non-Shaker fam­i­lies. There were accu­sa­tions that they stole wives and chil­dren, all detailed in law­suits. The Shak­er mod­el was a pro­found threat to the famil­ial struc­tures that held togeth­er late-eighteenth cen­tu­ry New Eng­land life. The vio­lence shown the Shak­ers was inex­cus­able but also some­what under­stand­able — well, unless you watched this movie, where it was por­trayed as a fear of the unknown.

The details also seri­ous­ly strayed from his­to­ry toward the end, depict­ing lat­er Shak­er life as co-existing with Moth­er Ann. That’s a ter­ri­ble choice. Shak­erism as an orga­nized reli­gion arguably only began short­ly after her death, when a new lead­er­ship came togeth­er, new set­tle­ments start­ed, and a social struc­ture con­struct­ed that reward­ed tech­ni­cal inno­va­tion. Pret­ty much every­thing we asso­ciate with Shak­er design — the flat brooms (1798), the effi­cient­ly of the round barns (1826), the apple peel­ers (1830s), even the hymns that this movie sets to mod­ern music (“Song of Sum­mer” is c. 1875) — came lat­er and real­ly could only have come from insti­tu­tion­al Shak­ers. This is the course of most new reli­gious move­ments: a charis­mat­ic leader hold­ing a small band of com­mit­ted zealots togeth­er, fol­lowed by a lat­er insti­tu­tion­al­iza­tion of roles. By smush­ing these eras togeth­er, Moth­er Lee’s life is san­i­tized and Shak­ers pre­sent­ed as an Amer­i­can ori­gin sto­ry.3 4

What’s iron­ic that the movie itself is beau­ti­ful­ly done. The rocked-up ahis­tor­i­cal Shak­er songs are stir­ring. The singing and danc­ing are beau­ti­ful and well chore­o­graphed. The cin­e­matog­ra­phy is excep­tion­al. Aman­da Seyfried does a great job play­ing the char­ac­ter she’s been giv­en. If only she had been giv­en Moth­er Ann!

I recent­ly got around to see­ing Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hol­ly­wood, anoth­er peri­od movie that pro­files a cult in a tumul­tuous time in Amer­i­can his­to­ry. It trans­port­ed me so much more than this one. As I sat in the the­ater this week, sigh­ing as yet anoth­er music video mon­tage pow­ered up, I found myself long­ing for an auteur with a tiny bud­get to take on Ann Lee’s sto­ry (David Lynch would have under­stood the essen­tial weird­ness of Ann Lee). Less is some­times more. And it def­i­nite­ly would have been for this production.

Origin of the Quaker SPICES testimonies

December 20, 2025

If you ask about Quak­er beliefs these days, one of the com­mon answers you’ll get is SPICE, a handy acronym that holds togeth­er a hodge­podge of val­ues, name­ly: sim­plic­i­ty, peace, integri­ty, com­mu­ni­ty and equal­i­ty (and lat­er sus­tain­abil­i­ty to become SPICES). One Quak­er school defin­i­tive­ly puts it, “Quak­ers agree to a core set of val­ues, known as tes­ti­monies.” I’ve not found SPICES list­ed before 2000 and even many of the indi­vid­ual com­po­nents are absent from old­er books of Faith and Practice.

The ques­tion of where this ubiq­ui­tous acronym came from, and when, reg­u­lar­ly comes up in Quak­er dis­course (most­ly recent­ly on Red­dit here). I some­times answer with the bits I’ve dug up but rather than rein­vent­ing the wheel each time, I thought I’d write it all down. I invite peo­ple to add what they know in com­ments and I’ll edit this.

1940s

Howard Brin­ton was the inven­tor of our mod­ern idea of a “tes­ti­mo­ny” in the 1940s, and his orig­i­nal list was com­mu­ni­ty, har­mo­ny, equal­i­ty, and sim­plic­i­ty. He was the Philadelphia-area born Friend who helped orga­nize unpro­grammed Friends on the U.S. West Coast in the ear­ly part of the twen­ti­eth cen­tu­ry. Brin­ton had a knack for sim­ple expla­na­tions that expressed the emerg­ing con­sen­sus of a new gen­er­a­tion of Friends who were heal­ing from the nineteenth-century schisms. Find­ing new ways of talk­ing about our com­mon­al­i­ties was a cen­tral part of the work of rec­on­cil­i­a­tion. From his tour de force 1952 mas­ter­piece, Friends for 300 Years:

The mean­ing of the group in Quak­er prac­tice can be sug­gest­ed by a dia­gram. Light from God streams down into the wait­ing group. This Light, if the way is open for it, pro­duces three results: uni­ty, knowl­edge, and pow­er. As a result we have the kind of behav­ior which exists as an ide­al in a meet­ing for wor­ship and a meet­ing for busi­ness. Because of the char­ac­ter­is­tics of the Light of Christ, the result­ing behav­ior can be described in a gen­er­al way by the four words Com­mu­ni­ty, Har­mo­ny, Equal­i­ty, and Sim­plic­i­ty.…

He includ­ed a chart, which hon­est­ly does­n’t help much with my under­stand­ing of the meta­physics of it all.

1975

Read­er Tomas Mario Kalmar sent me a paper called Learn­ing Com­mu­ni­ty pre­pared by the Edu­ca­tion Com­mis­sion of Aus­tralian Year­ly Meet­ing that lists six “char­ac­ter­is­tics that dis­tin­guished Quak­er edu­ca­tion”: a reli­gious­ly guard­ed edu­ca­tion, com­mu­ni­ty, non-violence, equal­i­ty, sim­plic­i­ty, and an expe­ri­en­tial cur­ricu­lum. The list is large­ly based on Howard Brin­ton’s work but I include it here because it shows how Friends were remix­ing and repur­pos­ing his list. Learn­ing Com­mu­ni­ty actu­al­ly looks pret­ty good and fair­ly time­less and Tomas gave me per­mis­sion to repost the PDF here.

1980 – 90s

In a Red­dit thread a few years ago, macoafi wrote: “My in-laws were chil­dren in first day school in the 1980s and 1990s, and they learned 4 tes­ti­monies, no acronym. (Peace, truth, sim­plic­i­ty, equal­i­ty).” At some point Brin­ton’s har­mo­ny start­ed being called peace so this is most­ly his list except for truth being swapped for com­mu­ni­ty.

1981

Com­menter Sharon writes:

I first heard SPICE at the 1981 FGC gath­er­ing in Berea KY! At the time it didn’t sit well with me as I found it too glib. I was still work­ing out what God want­ed my life to tes­ti­fy too.

This would put it near­ly two decades before from any doc­u­ment­ed instance I’ve seen. It is also well before any instance I’ve seen that includ­ed an I for integri­ty. I admit I’ll remain skep­ti­cal until I see fur­ther evi­dence, though it is pos­si­ble that some­one remem­bered it from the Berea gath­er­ing and start­ed reusing it in the last 1990s.5

1990

Wilmer Coop­er was an Ohio Wilbu­rite Friend who went on to become first dean of Earl­ham School of Reli­gion upon its found­ing in 1960. Thir­ty years lat­er he pub­lished A Liv­ing Faith, which was built on an ESR course called Basic Quak­er Beliefs. In the pref­ace he writes: “It is my hope that this work will help Friends gain a fuller under­stand­ing of their Quak­er her­itage and the­o­log­i­cal roots, while pro­vid­ing for non-Quakers a com­pre­hen­sive answer to the ques­tions: ‘Who are the Quak­ers?’ and “What is Quak­erism?’ ” In its final chap­ter Coop­er has two lists, which each have four tes­ti­monies. His reli­gious tes­ti­monies are:

  • belief that we can have direct and imme­di­ate access to the liv­ing God;
  • we can no only know the will of God but can, by God’s grace, be enabled to do the will of God.
  • the Quak­er expe­ri­ence of of com­mu­ni­ty as expressed in the “gath­ered meeting.”
  • the sacra­men­tal view of life.

His social tes­ti­monies are:

  • Peace Tes­ti­mo­ny
  • sim­plic­i­ty
  • equal­i­ty
  • integri­ty

He expands to give a para­graph to each of his eight tes­ti­monies but obvi­ous­ly the sec­ond list is much pithi­er.6. He does say that this isn’t a canon­i­cal list, that dif­fer­ent Friends will have dif­fer­ent lists, and con­cludes the sec­tion on tes­ti­monies by, well, tes­ti­fy­ing: “Friends believe deeply that if they sub­mit them­selves to God and live by the Light of Christ they will be enabled to live by the truth of the Gospel.” It’s worth not­ing that the lat­er SPICE/S for­mu­la­tion did­n’t include any of the reli­gious ones (you could per­haps try to claim com­mu­ni­ty der­vices from his reli­gious tes­ti­monies list but I don’t gen­er­al­ly hear the SPICES C described in the kind of spir­i­tu­al lan­guage Coop­er used).

The next year Coop­er wrote a Pen­dle Hill pam­phlet that focused on integri­ty. As far as I’ve seen Coop­er is the first to include an I for integri­ty, set­ting the stage for our famil­iar acronym.

Mid-1990s

My wife Julie insists that she remem­bers talk of SPICE/S back when she was in high school start­ing to get involved with Friends (cir­ca 1994). She did­n’t attend a Quak­er school so this would have been in Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing cir­cles, prob­a­bly specif­i­cal­ly South Jersey.

Late 1990s

In a com­ment to this very post, Pen­dle Hill edi­tor Jana­ki Spickard Keel­er says that when she was work­ing a 2023 pam­phlet with Paul Buck­ley, they tracked SPICE/S to a Friends Coun­cil for Edu­ca­tion list­serv for edu­ca­tors (per­haps E‑Quakes, which was start­ed in 1996 accord­ing to a FCE his­to­ry). Jana­ki writes: “No one came for­ward as being the first to come up with the idea, but they shared it along them­selves and it spread. They esti­mate this hap­pened around 1998.” The pam­phlet quotes Tom Hoopes, who start­ed as direc­tor of edu­ca­tion for Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing in 1998: “I encoun­tered it in use by one of the month­ly meet­ings of Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing, and I thought to myself, ‘what a great mnemon­ic device for help­ing peo­ple to remem­ber what we Quak­ers claim to pri­or­i­tize, and to try to prac­tice!’” Tom told Jana­ki and Paul that he did­n’t remem­ber the iden­ti­ty of the Friends meeting.

1999

The Sum­mer 1999 edi­tion of Salem Quar­ter (N.J.) News reports that Wood­stown Meet­ing cre­at­ed a SPICE rap in for a First-day School pro­gram which also includ­ed songs from Spice Girls. Yes it’s as unique as it sounds:

What’s the word? SPICE!!!! What’s the word? SPICE IS THE WAY TO GO!!!!
Sim­plic­i­ty is sim­ple, and you know it’s right. Squan­derin’ mon­ey gets ya into a fight.
Peace, it rules, and you know that it’s true. It’s the thing I need to get along with you. Don’t yell and sing those fight­in’ songs, when you can help oth­ers and right their wrongs.
Integri­ty is always bein’ true to your word. It’s the most hon­est tes­ti­mo­ny I’ve ever heard.
Livin’ and a‑sharin’ all together’s real­ly fun. Com­mu­ni­ty is helpin’, workin’, playin’ all in one.
Equal­i­ty means every­one is equal, and that’s cool.
Respect­ing oth­er is what’s right and is the gold­en rule!!

Note that the arti­cle gives a clue on source: “After read­ing a short arti­cle in Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing News with the acronym SPICE high­light­ing the tes­ti­monies… [we] were inspired to incor­po­rate this into our First Day School Pro­gram at Wood­stown MM.” The old­est copy of PYM News avail­able via Archive​.org is tan­ta­liz­ing­ly close — Nov/December 1999. That seems to be when PYM start­ed post­ing its newslet­ter.7

2003

Google finds a PDF of a 2003 talk giv­en to a Uni­tar­i­an Uni­ver­sal­ist church by Salt Lake City Friend Diana Lee Hirschi in 2003 talk­ing about SPICE. 

2004

I myself first com­plained about SPICE in 2004 (note it had­n’t got­ten a sec­ond S yet). I com­plained that this kind of list of sec­u­lar tes­ti­monies were too restric­tive. I real­ly was a Quak­er Ranter back then; also I was real­ly kind of hard on Brin­ton, who I appre­ci­ate more now.

2006

I like to search the Friends Jour­nal archives to see when new terms show up. New terms are often bandied about by par­tic­u­lar Friends or with­in sub-groups, where they might cir­cu­late for a few years with­out get­ting into wider usage. As far as I’ve been able to deter­mine, the first ref­er­ence to SPICES in Friends Jour­nal is a 2006 arti­cle by Har­ri­ett Heath titled “The Quak­er Par­ent­ing Project: A Report.” She’s lays it out as an attempt to teach Quak­er chil­dren with­out resort­ing to dogma:

There are sev­er­al dif­fer­ent lists of tes­ti­monies. We start­ed with one com­mon­ly referred to by the acronym SPICES: Sim­plic­i­ty, Peace, Integri­ty, Com­mu­ni­ty, Equal­i­ty, and Stew­ard­ship — but we found that there were oth­er issues not addressed by this list. Ser­vice is an inte­gral part of Quak­erism in our efforts to live our faith; should it be a tes­ti­mo­ny? Edu­ca­tion has been his­tor­i­cal­ly an inte­gral part of Quak­er­sim; should it, too, be includ­ed? Where does wor­ship — time set apart — fit in?

Her project even­tu­al­ly picked a dif­fer­ent list because they did­n’t want to be bound by the dic­tates of fit­ting into an acronym. They includ­ed con­flict and growth and ser­vice (which some­times is list­ed as the final S).

2007/2008 videos

In 2007, British Friends could pro­duce a video called “The Quak­er Tes­ti­monies” that did­n’t men­tion SPICE/S and ranged over oth­er non-acronymed tes­ti­monies such as one for respect and anoth­er against oath-taking. If you lis­ten care­ful­ly, I think at least one of the speak­ers must have heard of SPICE because he seemed to be orga­niz­ing thoughts around it. 

In 2008 I talked about SPICE and spir­i­tu­al­ly get­ting deep­er with tes­ti­monies in a YouTube video and accom­pa­ny­ing blog post.

2009

Brin­ton schol­ar Antho­ny Manousos did a deep dive on SPICES. Although Antho­ny claims Briton invent­ed SPICES per se, I think he just invent­ed the idea of tes­ti­monies and the ini­tial list that includ­ed three of them (four if you count the harmony/peace change).

2011

Less than two years after Heath’s arti­cle, Mark Dansereau and Kim Tso­canos, the co-heads of Con­necti­cut Friends School in Wilton, Conn., pub­lished an anno­tat­ed list of SPICES in Friends Jour­nal, explain­ing that their school was built on these “Six Quak­er Val­ues” (yes, ital­i­cized and cap­i­tal­ized) and that they applied and wove them into each activ­i­ty in their cur­ric­u­la. This might be one of the old­est fully-intact list­ings still eas­i­ly avail­able on the web. This has become one of the most vis­it­ed pages on Friends Jour­nal website.

2012

By this time SPICE/S was becom­ing ubiq­ui­tous. See this blog post from North­west Year­ly Meet­ing and a video Brent Bill put togeth­er to pro­mote an upcom­ing intro­duc­to­ry work­shop at his meet­ing in Indiana.

Paul Buck­ley gave a talk in 2012 that high­light­ed the role of Wilmer Coop­er, an Ohio Friend per­haps most well remem­bered for found­ing Earl­ham School of Reli­gion in 1960. In 2023, Paul Buck­ley wrote a pam­phlet from Pen­dle Hill, Quak­er Tes­ti­mo­ny: What We Wit­ness to the World, edit­ed by Jana­ki Spickard Keel­er, dur­ing which they deter­mined the late 1990s date.

2013

Some­one around 2006 I was stand­ing in a meal line at a Quak­er event with Cal­i­for­nia Friend Eric Moon and we start­ed to talk about tes­ti­monies. It was the start of a great con­ver­sa­tion, cut short by some inter­rup­tion or anoth­er before we even hit the dessert sta­tion. When I start­ed as Friends Jour­nal edi­tor I asked him to write some­thing. 2013’s Cat­e­gor­i­cal­ly Not the Tes­ti­monies was the result. We also talked in an ear­ly Quak­er Author Pod­cast.


So where did the SPICES for­mu­la­tion come from? It ulti­mate­ly derived from Brin­ton’s list, with har­mo­ny mor­ph­ing to peace and WIl Coop­er’s integri­ty adding an I. Giv­en its ped­a­gog­i­cal nature, it was prob­a­bly coined by edu­ca­tors. It’s a good teach­ing tool, easy to remem­ber and some­thing you can eas­i­ly weave into a multi-week class. 

Since there’s noth­ing par­tic­u­lar­ly reli­gious about the SPICE/S list, it can work in an essen­tial­ly sec­u­lar envi­ron­ment that might be aller­gic to religious-sounding Quak­er the­ol­o­gy. This would include Friends schools appeal­ing to a non-Quaker audi­ence or a Lib­er­al Friends Meet­ing that wants some­thing non-controversial to teach the kids. I nev­er hear any­one talk about it being derived from “char­ac­ter­is­tics of the Light of Christ,” as Brin­ton did when he intro­duced it.

In the last few years it’s become pret­ty ubiq­ui­tous on Tik­Tok and oth­er short-form video (Dis­cov­er­ing Quak­ers, _gloyoyo_, itsmekat­evee).8 If you have five min­utes to tell a gen­er­al audi­ence about Quak­ers, bite-sized descrip­tions are impor­tant. Also: some of these con­tent cre­ators are prob­a­bly younger than the term itself. Also: I’ve final­ly grown into the Old Man Yelling at the Clouds meme. SPICES is here to stay.

Is SPICES all that ter­ri­ble? No, not real­ly. It can be handy. But it is pret­ty annoy­ing that we’ve con­fused a list of gener­ic val­ues for belief. And it’s super annoy­ing that even that list of val­ues is hemmed in by the require­ment that every com­po­nent fit into a sil­ly acronym.9

What’s fun­ny about the mys­tery of this is that there’s a very good chance that the per­son who first list­ed out SPICE is still around. There’s a box in some­one’s garage packed with late-1990s newslet­ters, one of which lists it out for the first time in print. Any­one with any infor­ma­tion can com­ment below or email me at martink@martinkelley.com.

Young adults profiled in publications

December 7, 2025

Two recent arti­cles in pub­li­ca­tions have got­ten some buzz. One writ­ten by AP reporter Luis Andres Henao looks at a rise of young adult inter­est in Friends and pro­files a dra­mat­ic increase in atten­dance at Arch Street Meet­ing in Philadel­phia. It’s been reprint­ed in a lot of news­pa­pers. It quotes a Valerie Goodman:

“It feels like I can have a minute to breathe. It’s dif­fer­ent than hav­ing a moment of med­i­ta­tion in my apart­ment because there’s still all of the dis­trac­tions around,” Good­man says. “And it’s crazy being in a room full of oth­er peo­ple that are all there to expe­ri­ence that themselves.”

The oth­er is a beau­ti­ful essay by a new UK Friend, who explains the appeal of the silence:

It was as if some­one had turned down the vol­ume of the world, and all that remained was my feel­ings, sit­ting raw and open like a wound. Rather than run­ning, I sat for an hour and let them wash over me. I left with a fresh­er per­spec­tive and spent the rest of the day in a calm daze. For the first time in a while, I felt anchored to some­thing greater than myself.

YouTube: I’m an Atheist. I Visited a Quaker Church.

August 2, 2025

Jared is an athe­ist YouTu­ber whose schtick is vis­it­ing dif­fer­ent church­es. I’ve watched him before so was thrilled to see he’s now vis­it­ed Friends.

He’s very good at observ­ing and under­stand­ing and explain­ing what he’s seen. There’s no sub­stan­tive inac­cu­ra­cies here. He had a deeply mov­ing expe­ri­ence that he says he won’t forget.

That said, he felt dis­ap­point­ed that the meet­ing he vis­it­ed wasn’t more dis­tinct­ly Quak­er, call­ing it a “bait and switch almost.” The only min­istry was polit­i­cal and while he does a good job defend­ing the speaker’s com­pas­sion he says that it felt “solemn but not sacred” to him, which I think is a fas­ci­nat­ing way of putting it:

I’m real­ly inter­est­ed in the hand­ful of peo­ple who feel like they’ve touched God. I don’t, but It’s still a pro­found thing to talk to some­body who’s don’t that.

He grew up Pen­te­costal and knew that there was a lot of crossover with ear­ly Friends. That’s what he was look­ing for. I think his obser­va­tions on this was prob­a­bly pret­ty fair for most Lib­er­al Friends meet­ings today. I think there are oth­er seek­ers like him want­i­ng to expe­ri­ence some­thing more dis­tinc­tive­ly and reli­gious­ly Quak­er. Over­all, an awe­some video, very recommended.

What Have Friends Been Reading?

July 12, 2025

There’s a new top-five list of arti­cles from Friends Jour­nal so far in 2025. We have a cou­ple of news ones — the law­suits against DHS and the recent Quak­er Walk — but we also have more con­tem­pla­tive fair.

I like the sto­ry of the Friends at William Penn Uni­ver­si­ty in Iowa dis­cov­er­ing some of the pos­i­tive qual­i­ties of plain dress from a inter­net chal­lenge. And Gail Melix (Greenwater)‘s reflec­tion on being both Quak­er and Indige­nous is quite moving.

Namesake of school in latest massacre had Quaker roots

February 27, 2018

When this lat­est school gun mas­sacre took place in a school called Stone­man Dou­glas I only paused at the unusu­al name as I con­tin­ued to read how­ev­er many details of the hor­ror I could stom­ach. But Stone­man Dou­glas was a per­son, an ear­ly envi­ron­men­tal activist who helped raise aware­ness of the Ever­glades as a nat­ur­al trea­sure. She might have got­ten some of that gump­tion and care from her father, a Quak­er from Minnesota:

The fam­i­ly found a com­mu­ni­ty of Quak­er friends in the small town, of which Stone­man Dou­glas wrote, “It may have been a ‘fron­tier town,’ but there was strict tra­di­tion to guide him, the tra­di­tion of ‘Yea and nay,’ the tra­di­tion of plain liv­ing and clear and inde­pen­dent think­ing, and there were fam­i­ly sto­ries to point up the stiff-backed breed. They may have been plain peo­ple but they were colorful.”
 — Read on m.startribune.com/namesake-at-school-of-latest-massacre-was-a-minnesota-native-born-in-1890/475206053/

Ask Me Anything: Conservative and Liberal Friends?

February 22, 2017

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Marl­bor­ough (Pa.) Friends meet­ing­house at dusk. c. 2006.

A few weeks ago, read­er James F. used my “Ask me any­thing!” page to won­der about two types of Friends:

I’ve read a lit­tle and watched var­i­ous videos about the Friends. My ques­tions are , is there a gulf between “con­ser­v­a­tive” friends and lib­er­al? As well as what defines the two gen­er­al­ly? I’m in Mary­land near D.C. Do Quak­ers who define them­selves as essen­tial­ly Chris­t­ian wor­ship with those who don’t iden­ti­fy as such?

Hi James, what a great ques­tion! I think many of us don’t ful­ly appre­ci­ate the con­fu­sion we sow when we casu­al­ly use these terms in our online dis­cus­sions. They can be use­ful rhetor­i­cal short­cuts but some­times I think we give them more weight than they deserve. I wor­ry that Friends some­times come off as more divid­ed along these lines than we real­ly are. Over the years I’ve noticed a cer­tain kind of rigid online seek­er who dis­sects the­o­log­i­cal dis­cus­sions with such con­vic­tion that they’ll refused to even vis­it their near­est meet­ing because it’s not the right type. That’s so tragic.

What the terms don’t mean

The first and most com­mon prob­lem is that peo­ple don’t real­ize we’re using these terms in a specif­i­cal­ly Quak­er con­text. “Lib­er­al” and “Con­ser­v­a­tive” don’t refer to polit­i­cal ide­olo­gies. One can be a Con­ser­v­a­tive Friend and vote for lib­er­al or social­ist politi­cians, for example.

Adding to the com­pli­ca­tions is that these can be impre­cise terms. Quak­er bod­ies them­selves typ­i­cal­ly do not iden­ti­fy as either Lib­er­al or Con­ser­v­a­tive. While local con­gre­ga­tions often have their own unique char­ac­ter­is­tics, cul­ture, and style, noth­ing goes on the sign out front. Our region­al bod­ies, called year­ly meet­ings, are the high­est author­i­ty in Quak­erism but I can’t think of any that does­n’t span some diver­si­ty of theologies.

His­tor­i­cal­ly (and cur­rent­ly) we’ve had the sit­u­a­tion where a year­ly meet­ing will split into two sep­a­rate bod­ies. The caus­es can be com­plex; the­ol­o­gy is a piece, but demo­graph­ics and main­stream cul­tur­al shifts also play a huge role. In cen­turies past (and kind of ridicu­lous­ly, today still), both of the new­ly reor­ga­nized year­ly meet­ings were obsessed with keep­ing the name as a way to claim their legit­i­ma­cy. To tell them apart we’d append awk­ward and incom­plete labels, so in the past we had Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing (Hick­site) and Philadel­phia Year­ly Meet­ing (Ortho­dox).

In the Unit­ed States, we have two places where year­ly meet­ings com­pete names and one side’s labelled appendage is “Con­ser­v­a­tive,” giv­ing us Iowa Year­ly Meet­ing (Con­ser­v­a­tive) and North Car­oli­na Year­ly Meet­ing (Con­ser­v­a­tive). Over time, both of these year­ly meet­ings have diver­si­fied to the point where they con­tain out­ward­ly Lib­er­al month­ly meet­ings. The name Con­ser­v­a­tive in the year­ly meet­ing title has become part­ly administrative.

A third year­ly meet­ing is usu­al­ly also includ­ed in the list of Con­ser­v­a­tive bod­ies. Present-day Ohio Year­ly Meet­ing once com­pet­ed with two oth­er Ohio Year­ly Meet­ings for the name but is the only one using it today. The name “Ohio Year­ly Meet­ing (Con­ser­v­a­tive)” is still some­times seen, but it’s unnec­es­sary, not tech­ni­cal­ly cor­rect, and not used in the year­ly meeting’s for­mal cor­re­spon­dence. (You want to know more? The year­ly meet­ing’s clerk main­tains a web­site that goes amaz­ing­ly deep into the his­to­ry of Ohio Friends).

All that said, these three year­ly meet­ings have more than their share of tra­di­tion­al­ist Chris­t­ian Quak­er mem­bers. Ohio’s gath­er­ings have the high­est per­cent­age of plain dressing- and speaking- Friends around (though even there, they are a minor­i­ty). But oth­er year­ly meet­ings will have indi­vid­ual mem­bers and some­times whole month­ly meet­ings that could be accu­rate­ly described as Con­ser­v­a­tive Quaker.

I might have upset some folks with these obser­va­tions. In all aspects of life you’ll find peo­ple who are very attached to labels. That’s what the com­ment sec­tion is for.

The meanings of the terms

For­mal iden­ti­ties aside, there are good rea­sons we use the con­cept of Lib­er­al and Con­ser­v­a­tive Quak­erism. They denote a gen­er­al approach to the world and a way of incor­po­rat­ing our his­to­ry, our Chris­t­ian her­itage, our under­stand­ing of the role of Christ in our dis­cern­ment, and the for­mat and pace of our group deci­sion making.

But at the same time there’s all sorts of diver­si­ty and per­son­al and local his­to­ries involved. It’s hard to talk about any of this in con­crete terms with­out dis­solv­ing into foot­notes and qual­i­fi­ca­tions and long dis­cours­es about the dif­fer­ences between var­i­ous his­tor­i­cal sub-movements with­in Friends (queue awe­some 16000-word his­to­ry).

Many of us com­fort­ably span both worlds. In writ­ing, I some­times try to escape the weight of the most overused labels by sub­sti­tut­ing more gener­ic terms, like tra­di­tion­al Friends or Christ-centered Friends. These terms also get prob­lem­at­ic if you scratch at them too hard. Reminder: God is the Word and our lan­guage is by def­i­n­i­tion limiting.

If you like the soci­ol­o­gy of such things, Isabel Pen­raeth wrote a fas­ci­nat­ing arti­cle in Friends Jour­nal a few years ago, Under­stand­ing Our­selves, Respect­ing the Dif­fer­ences. More recent­ly in FJ a Philadel­phia Friend, John Andrew Gallery, vis­it­ed Ohio Friends and talked about the spir­i­tu­al refresh­ment of Con­ser­v­a­tive Friends in Ohio Year­ly Meet­ing Gath­er­ing and Quak­er Spring. Much of the dis­cus­sion around the mod­ern phrase Con­ver­gent Friends and the threads on Quak­erQuak­er has focused on those who span a Lib­er­al and Con­ser­v­a­tive Quak­er worldview.

The dis­tinc­tion between Con­ser­v­a­tives and Lib­er­als can become quite evi­dent when you observe how Friends con­duct a busi­ness meet­ing or how they present them­selves. It’s all too easy to veer into car­i­ca­ture here but Lib­er­al Friends are prone to rein­ven­tions and the use of impre­cise sec­u­lar lan­guage, while­Con­ser­v­a­tive Friends are attached to estab­lished process­es and can be unwel­com­ing to change that might dis­rupt inter­nal unity.

But even these brief obser­va­tions are impre­cise and can mask sur­pris­ing­ly sim­i­lar tal­ents and stum­bling blocks. We all of us are humans, after all. The Inward Christ is always avail­able to instruct and com­fort, just as we are all bro­ken and prone to act impul­sive­ly against that advice.

Worshipping?

Final­ly, pret­ty much all Friends will wor­ship with any­one. Most local con­gre­ga­tions have their own dis­tinct fla­vor. There are some in which the min­istry is large­ly Chris­t­ian, with a Quaker-infused expla­na­tion of a para­ble or gospel, while there are oth­ers where you’ll rarely hear Christ men­tioned. You should try out dif­fer­ent meet­ings and see which ones feed your soul. Be ready to find nur­tu­rance in unex­pect­ed places. God may instruct us to serve any­where with no notice, as he did the Good Samar­i­tan. Christ isn’t bound by any of our sil­ly words.

Thanks to James for the question!

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