I inter­viewed Sep­tem­ber FJ author Scot­ty Utz about Guns-to-Garden Move­ment. Fas­ci­nat­ing wit­ness and some heart­break­ing sto­ries. From my intro:

One of the most pro­found and oft quot­ed state­ments from prob­a­bly the entire Bible is from Isa­iah, and it goes And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many peo­ple, and they shall beat their swords into plough shares, and their spears into prun­ing hooks. Nations shall not lift up sword against nation, nei­ther shall they learn war any more. And this may seem like a won­der­ful lyri­cal kind of state­ment. But what if we actu­al­ly took it seri­ous­ly and actu­al­ly start­ed tak­ing our instru­ments of war and turn­ing them into prun­ing hooks?

Full show notes and tran­scrip­tions here.