Talking about Who We Believe In

December 11, 2025

I talked with Tom Gates this week about the nature of belief. He has an arti­cle in the cur­rent Friends Jour­nal titled “Beyond What Words Can Utter.”

We agreed that a lot of Quak­er belief can only be expe­ri­enced, not described, which makes for dif­fi­cul­ties when doing out­reach. It’s easy to go into nuance once some­one has com­ing into the meet­ing­house and is par­tic­i­pat­ing in an edu­ca­tion pro­gram but how do we get them off the street in the first place. Tom said:

I’m com­fort­able with Christ lan­guage and the inward light of Christ. And I know there are friends who are not, and there are good rea­sons why they’re not. I’m not deny­ing that. in these new­com­er ses­sions a per­sis­tent ques­tion is: Are Quak­ers Chris­t­ian? And how do you under­stand that? And they’re most­ly com­ing from back­grounds and oth­er kind of more con­ser­v­a­tive churches.

And so that’s a live ques­tion for them because in some sense they all left those church­es because the fun­da­men­tal­ism was grat­ing on them. I always pull off this thing from my shelf, it’s the Reader’s Guide to George Fox’s Jour­nal by Joseph Pick­vance. And he makes a fas­ci­nat­ing state­ment: the com­mon­est cause of mis­un­der­stand­ing of Fox’s teach­ing today is a fail­ure to real­ize how wide and deep and func­tion­al is the mean­ing that quote Christ had for him. 

Our dis­cus­sion ranged quite a bit, from Art Larrabee’s “Nine Core Quak­er Beliefs” to Mar­cus Borg’s Heart of Chris­tian­i­ty and 1653’s Saul’s Errand to Dam­as­cus, by James Nayler and George Fox. I def­i­nite­ly need to do some more reading!

Full show notes and a tran­script are avail­able.

Tom has also writ­ten a follow-up post on Quak­er belief on his blog. 

Ready to die for the silence

July 15, 2025

I’m pret­ty used to the stan­dard rhetor­i­cal paths of Quak­er sto­ries after so many years as an edi­tor but every once in a while one comes along and knocks my socks off.

I’ve writ­ten before1 that I’m not a fan of the “when to speak in meet­ing” flow­charts Friends some­times post in the meet­ing­house to dis­cour­age vocal min­istry. One is expect­ed to test an incom­ing mes­sage against half a dozen queries and only speak if they can clear them all in the space of an hour. A lot of new­com­ers see these and decide to just keep quiet.

Chris­tine Hart­mann was just one of these new atten­ders. She writes “after study­ing all this, I decid­ed to hold off speak­ing in meet­ing, if at all pos­si­ble, for fear of get­ting it wrong.” She was so care­ful and so scrupu­lous that her silence almost cost her her life. I’m not kid­ding. Lit­er­al­ly. Read the arti­cle. Wild, wild.

(Yes, there are dis­rup­tive new­com­ers who give inap­pro­pri­ate min­istry in Quak­er wor­ship. In my expe­ri­ence they’re rarely the ones sit­ting down and study­ing flow­charts. The vis­i­tors these charts deter are the care­ful and thought­ful ones who are already tying them­selves in knots won­der­ing whether they should speak. These are the folks you want to encourage.) 

Trip to Harper’s Ferry

May 1, 2025

Last week my son Gre­go­ry’s scout troop head­ed to south­ern Penn­syl­va­nia to start a 50-mile back­pack­ing trip south, to cov­er all of Mary­land’s por­tion of the Appalachi­an Trail and end up in Harper’s Fer­ry, West Vir­ginia. I was asked to dri­ve them, and as it seemed a lit­tle too far to com­mute back to South Jer­sey I spent four days by myself down there and had a great time. I thought I’d share var­i­ous thoughts:

Hos­tels are great. I haven’t stayed in a hos­tel in for­ev­er but at $35/night, the price was right. I’m so glad I did. Every night was a new cast of peo­ple to get to meet, quirky and fun and delight­ful­ly weird. This was the week­end of the Flip-Flop Kick­off fes­ti­val put on by the Appalachi­an Trail Con­ser­van­cy. As I under­stand it, the “flip flop” is an alter­nate way of doing a through-hike on the Appalachi­an Trail (“the AT”). Instead of start­ing in Geor­gia and head­ing north along with hun­dreds of oth­ers, you start in Harper’s Fer­ry (the hon­orary halfway point) and go south, then find a ride back to Harper’s Fer­ry and go north. The fes­ti­val brought a lot of hik­ers to Cross Trails hos­tel, where I stayed, and I even par­tic­i­pat­ed in a few events; I felt myself an hon­orary AT hiker!

I loved the ambiance and the char­ac­ters at Cross Trails Hos­tel. The staff were great.

I love my bike. I put my bike rack on my old econobox car and used it every day to com­mute the five miles or so from the hos­tel to Harper’s Fer­ry. The C&O Canal Tow­path is a most­ly flat, beau­ti­ful trail that winds 180 miles along­side the Potomac Riv­er. One day I con­tin­ued north from Harper’s Fer­ry and rode it to Shep­ard­stown: a beau­ti­ful ride apart from the calf-breaking bluffs on either side of the trip.2 Also a lot of out­door fun is white­wa­ter raft­ing. There’s three com­pa­nies in the area offer­ing it and I had a good time with Harper’s Fer­ry Adven­ture Cen­ter.

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The C&O Canal Tow­path trail is wonderful.

Don’t for­get the non-vegan restau­rants. I was excit­ed by a veg­an option in Harper’s Fer­ry but my favorite meal by far was at a reg­u­lar cafe in Shep­herd­stown. I had an amaz­ing home­made black bean veg­gie burg­er, a sesame noo­dles appe­tiz­er, decent fries, and a tall cold glass of hard apple cider. Five stars to the Blue Moon Cafe. Extra bonus: there’s an actu­al creek flow­ing through the back patio.

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Five stars to Shep­herd­stown’s Blue Moon Cafe.

There is so much his­to­ry atop itself in Harper’s Fer­ry. It’s a tiny town and yet every time you turn around there’s some­thing mon­u­men­tal going on. John’s Brown raid is per­haps the most famous but it was also the site of mul­ti­ple Civ­il War engage­ments, a pro­vi­sion­ing stop for Meri­wether Lewis, and a place where Thomas Jef­fer­son waxed poet­ic.

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The Odd­fel­lows Hall. One of their mem­bers was tak­en hostage by John Brown. As if that’s not enough his­to­ry, famed Civ­il War pho­tog­ra­ph­er Matthew Brady set up his cam­era here and took lots of pic­tures of sol­diers from this van­tage point.

Don’t defend Harper’s Fer­ry. There’s much one could say about John Brown’s moti­va­tions, tac­tics, etc., but real­ly dude, how dumb do you have to be to try to force-start the Civ­il War there of all places? As soon as word got out about what was hap­pen­ing, mili­tias from three states and fed­er­al troops poured in from the hills on all sides of the town and trapped him. It was over almost as soon as it began. The Civ­il War engage­ments were like that too. It’s a fish­bowl with moun­tain ridges on all sides: you just set up your muni­tions on Mary­land or Loudoun Heights and lob can­non balls down on the town until you get a sur­ren­der. A quote attrib­uted to a Union lieu­tenant in an exhib­it real­ly summed it up for me: “Gen. Jack­son and Gen. Hill told me per­son­al­ly, they had rather take it [Harper’s Fer­ry] forty times than to under­take to defend it once.”

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These are the lit­tle hills behind Harper’s Fer­ry. On either side are much taller ones.

Vis­it­ing new meet­ings is great. On Sun­day morn­ing I had church time so I motored south to vis­it Goose Creek Meet­ing in Lin­coln, Vir­ginia. 3 It’s an old meet­ing, steeped in its own his­to­ry. It’s aways fun to see a new meet­ing. They have honest-to-God pews with hym­nal racks along the back, each care­ful­ly stocked with a Bible, an FGC hym­nal, and Bal­ti­more’s Faith and Prac­tice. They have a loud clock, which I’ve always heard was a Hick­site mark­er and indeed I lat­er learned the Hick­sites held the meet­ing­house in the nine­teenth cen­tu­ry schisms.4 There were only two mes­sages and one was a fake Gand­hi quote (you all will be hap­py that I did­n’t fact-check it in real time and just let the sen­ti­ment behind it stand for itself). It seemed like a real­ly ground­ed meet­ing. I was impressed that peo­ple got there ear­ly and sat qui­et­ly prepar­ing for wor­ship. Every­one was very friend­ly for the few min­utes of cof­fee hour I could squeeze out before head­ing back north to pick up scouts.

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Nice light in the main room before wor­ship. Note the hym­nal racks on the back of bench­es and also the promi­nent clock.

And a big thanks to Troop 48 Berlin NJ for get­ting me out of the house. Scout­mas­ter Mike has a post about their trip up on the web­site. It’s a great troop and Gre­go­ry’s real­ly thriv­ing there.

What Does the Outside Say?

March 7, 2019

Also in Friends Jour­nal’s issue, “Out­side the Meet­ing­house,” a piece from Brad Stock­er of Mia­mi Meet­ing in Florida:

Most Friends have an under­stand­ing of the archi­tec­tur­al mes­sage that our meet­ing­hous­es express. We under­stand the sim­plic­i­ty of the struc­ture. We under­stand the rea­son there are no steeples or cross­es on the out­side and why we have clear win­dows placed so as to invite the light to enter. We are equal­ly sen­si­tive to inte­ri­or design. While we come into fre­quent, inti­mate con­tact with the meet­ing­house exte­ri­or, and the land it sits on, we may be less aware of the mes­sage they convey. 

There may be a lit­tle whiplash to talk about but­ter­fly gar­dens after the recent arti­cle on Quak­er wor­ship from prison but I like the inten­tion­al­i­ty of Stock­er’s obser­va­tions: we are always mak­ing state­ments with the care (or non-care) of our phys­i­cal space. Miami’s the kind of coastal city where cli­mate change is very much not a the­o­ret­i­cal issue and Stock­er is very involved in his year­ly meet­ing’s earth­care edu­ca­tion ini­tia­tives. The meet­ing­house grounds are a place to mod­el good stew­ard­ship; tak­ing the care to have them be invit­ing and qui­et­ly demon­stra­tive of Quak­er val­ues is impor­tant outreach.

Never Having Set Foot in the Meetinghouse

March 5, 2019

Yohannes “Knowl­edge” John­son is a mem­ber of Bulls Head — Oswego Meet­ing even though he has nev­er set foot in the meet­ing­house. He has­n’t because he’s been a guest of the New York State prison sys­tem for almost forty years (mur­der and attempt­ed mur­der in 1980). John­son talks about how he cen­ters and par­tic­i­pates despite the walls and bars sur­round­ing him:

Cen­ter­ing is always a wel­come chal­lenge, for, as one would expect, prison can be a noisy place and com­pet­ing con­ver­sa­tions can be over­whelm­ing. What I do is draw myself into the pic­tures and focus upon the images and peo­ple there­in. I have accom­pa­ny­ing pic­tures of places vis­it­ed by Friends and sent to me over the years with scenery that, for me as a per­son raised on the con­crete pave­ments of New York City, gives me visions of nat­ur­al beau­ty with­out the clut­ter of build­ing struc­tures and the like. 

Where do we hear God’s voice?

January 3, 2019

Angel­i­ca Brown on min­istry from unex­pect­ed sources:

I think about the peo­ple I’ve cared about who have need­ed to talk to them­selves and make nois­es. Who need to pace and say things we don’t under­stand. Spir­it is mov­ing through them, in this incar­na­tion­al way. Remind­ing them they still have bod­ies that can make nois­es, that they still can breath words into being. 

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Money and the things we really value

July 3, 2018

I think I’ve already shared that Friends Jour­nal is doing an issue on “Meet­ings and Mon­ey” in the fall. While I’ve heard from some poten­tial authors that they’re writ­ing some­thing, we haven’t actu­al­ly got­ten any­thing in-hand yet. We’re extend­ing the dead­line to Fri­day, 7/20. This is a good oppor­tu­ni­ty to write for FJ.

How we spend mon­ey is often a telling indi­ca­tor of what val­ues we real­ly val­ue. Mon­ey is not just a mat­ter of finan­cial state­ments and invest­ment strate­gies. It’s chil­dren pro­gram. It’s local soup kitchens. It’s the town peace fair. It’s the acces­si­ble bath­room or hear­ing aid sys­tem. And how we dis­cuss and dis­cern and fight over mon­ey is often a test of our com­mit­ment to Quak­er values.

Here’s some of the spe­cif­ic issues we’ve brain­stormed for the issue.

Where does our mon­ey come from? A lot of Quak­er wealth is locked up in endow­ments start­ed by “dead Quak­er mon­ey” — wealth bequeathed by Quak­ers of cen­turies past.

Much of our Amer­i­can Quak­er for­tunes trace back to a large land grant giv­en in pay­ment for war debt. For the first cen­tu­ry or so, this wealth was aug­ment­ed by slave labor. Lat­er Quak­er enter­pris­es were aug­ment­ed by cap­i­tal from these ini­tial wealth sources.

In times past, there were well-known Quak­er fam­i­ly busi­ness­es and wealthy Quak­er indus­tri­al­ists. But Amer­i­can cap­i­tal­ism has changed: fam­i­lies rarely own medium- or large-scale busi­ness­es; they own stocks in firms run by a pro­fes­sion­al man­agers. If the abil­i­ty to run busi­ness­es based on Quak­er val­ues is over, is share­hold­er activism our clos­est analogue?

Many Friends now work in ser­vice fields. Fam­i­ly life has also changed, and the (large­ly female) free labor of one-income house­holds is no longer avail­able to sup­port Quak­er endeav­ors as read­i­ly. How have all of these changes affect­ed the finances of our denom­i­na­tion and the abil­i­ty to live out our val­ues in the workplace?

How do we sup­port our mem­bers? A per­son­al anec­dote: some years ago I unex­pect­ed­ly lost my job. It was touch and go for awhile whether we’d be able to keep up with mort­gage pay­ments; los­ing our house was a real pos­si­bil­i­ty. Mem­bers of a near­by non-Quaker church heard that there was a fam­i­ly in need and a few days lat­er a stranger showed up on our back porch with a dozen bags of gro­ceries and new win­ter coats for each of us. When my Friends meet­ing heard, I was told there was a com­mit­tee that I could apply to that would con­sid­er whether it might help.

Where does the mon­ey go? A activist Friend of mine use to point to the nice fur­nish­ings in our meet­ing­house and chuck­le about how many good things we could fund in the com­mu­ni­ty if we sold some of it off. Has your meet­ing liq­ui­dat­ed any of its prop­er­ty for com­mu­ni­ty service?

When we do find our­selves with extra funds from a bequest or wind­fall, where do we spend it? How do we bal­ance our needs (such as meet­ing­house ren­o­va­tions, schol­ar­ships for Quak­er stu­dents), and when and how do we give it to oth­ers in our community?

What can we let go of? There are a lot of meet­ing­hous­es in more rur­al areas that are most­ly emp­ty these days, even on First Day. Could we ever decide we don’t need all of these spaces? Could we con­sol­i­date? Or could we go fur­ther and sell our prop­er­ties and start meet­ing at a rent­ed space like a fire­hall or library once a week?

Who gets the meet­ing­house after a break-up? In the last few years we’ve seen three major year­ly meet­ings split apart, prompt­ing a whole mess of finan­cial dis­en­tan­gle­ment. What hap­pens to the prop­er­ties and sum­mer camps and endow­ments when this hap­pens? How fierce­ly are we will­ing to fight fel­low Friends over money?

What con­ver­sa­tions aren’t we hav­ing? Where do we invest our cor­po­rate sav­ings? Who decides how we spend mon­ey in our meetings?

Please feel free to share this with any Friend who might have inter­est­ing obser­va­tions about Friends’ atti­tudes toward finances!

Skeletons (not even) in the closet

May 22, 2018

This is a bit a gru­some sto­ry, though not as shock­ing at it should be. Louellen White, a researcher look­ing for bur­ial records of Native Amer­i­can chil­dren stum­bled on a Native Amer­i­can skull just sit­ting in a dis­play case of a old Philadel­phia meeting.

As White searched for grave­yard ledgers in the library — crammed with stuffed birds, cloth­ing, shells and books — she came upon the skull. Her legs wob­bled. And her stom­ach dropped. Arsenault-Cote offered advice and reas­sur­ance. “You’re out there look­ing for them, and now they’re show­ing them­selves to you,” she told White. “He’s been wait­ing a long time.” His­tor­i­cal­ly, Philadel­phia Quak­ers were “incon­sis­tent friends” to Indi­ans, engaged in the same col­o­niz­ing projects as oth­er faiths while see­ing them­selves as unique­ly able to edu­cate natives.

Incon­sis­tent is an apt word. Paula Palmer has been trac­ing the his­to­ry of Quak­er Indi­an Board­ing Schools: high-minded enter­pris­es that often for­ca­bly stripped her­itage from their pupils in ways that were as cul­tur­al­ly impe­r­i­al as they were unaware.

Byber­ry Meet­ing dates to the 1690s and the meet­ing­house grounds are full of abo­li­tion­ist his­to­ry. The skull was appar­ent­ly dug up in the mid-nineteenth cen­tu­ry as part of a near­by canal project and is thought to have come to the meet­ing­house as part of a col­lec­tion from a shut­tered his­tor­i­cal soci­ety. Its pres­ence on the shelf rep­re­sents the atti­tudes of Friends many decades ago who thought noth­ing of plac­ing a Lenape skull in a case. There’s also the sad sub­text that the meet­ing library is said to be so unused that most of the meet­ing’s con­tem­po­rary mem­bers had no idea it was there. It’s a shame that it took an out­side researcher to notice the skele­tons in our dis­play case.

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