Reddit Thread on Quakers and Generative AI Art

August 4, 2026

An inter­est­ing Red­dit thread on “Quak­ers and Gen­er­a­tive AI Art” by user balsawoodspirit.

I encour­age Friends to please remem­ber that Gen­er­a­tive AI art is pro­duced uneth­i­cal­ly from AI mod­els that scrape the work of real artists with­out con­sent or com­pen­sa­tion. In the last few weeks, I have encoun­tered two instances of Quak­ers using Gen­er­a­tive AI as a part of their Out­reach. This is deeply dis­turb­ing to me. There is no legit­i­mate rea­son to use Gen­er­a­tive AI Art. You can use open source images, you can hire artists, or you can make your own art. Or, use no art at all. Bet­ter that than to steal from artists and dis­play art you hand no hand in making.

My Face­book feed is awash in ter­ri­ble AI art accom­pa­nied by ter­ri­ble AI-written feel-good sto­ries, shared as much by Quak­ers as by any oth­er demo­graph­ic (my bad for still being on there, perhaps).

Quak­erism is a spir­i­tu­al­i­ty that requires active par­tic­i­pa­tion. You can’t just nod off in the back (well, you can but you should­n’t). Quak­er com­mu­ni­ties have been lived expe­ri­ences. As some­one who works dai­ly with writ­ers, it’s stun­ning just how much AI has become a crutch for peo­ple. There are some very active writ­ers in Quak­er online spaces whose work is most­ly AI. Is it for the social boost that comes from being ubiquitous?

A weird tan­gent but hear me out: if you read a lot of clas­sic Quak­er jour­nals, there’s fre­quent­ly sto­ries from their teens in which the author con­scious­ly wres­tles with plain dress. They talk about the lost friend­ships that came when they adopt­ed a more uni­form style and also about how hard it is to dis­cern and nav­i­gate the inevitable voice of pride inside them­selves (look at me, I’m plain!) with their legit­i­mate wish and lead­ing to be of use to the fel­low­ship. That process of wrestling with ego is some­thing that nev­er ends for any of us, but espe­cial­ly not one of these min­is­ters. Know­ing when min­istry is Spirit-led or ego-fed is a core com­pe­ten­cy for this work. In the end, the dress did­n’t mat­ter so much. But the “baby steps” of wor­ry­ing about it was an ear­ly work­out of those dis­cern­ment muscles.

When we turn to AI we stop work­ing those mus­cles and offload so much to the machine. Skip­ping the baby steps means we’re not nec­es­sar­i­ly going to be as prac­ticed when impor­tant deci­sions need to be made. Let’s put out bad art if it means we’ll start learn­ing how to put out more authen­tic art as we develop.

The Peaceable Kingdom Lost

June 30, 2026

A sto­ry by Charles Fox of just a few of the mas­sacres of Indige­nous peo­ple in Penn­syl­va­nia in the late 1700s. While the Friends and Mora­vians often har­bored endan­gered Susque­han­nock, their paci­fism meant they were large­ly unable to stop the maraud­ing Scots-Irish who were doing the killing.

As one his­to­ri­an wrote:

The fron­tier did col­lapse in late 1763. The sur­prise was that the armed mob that descend­ed from the fron­tier into Lan­cast­er — and then to Philadel­phia in 1764 — were White fron­tiers­men. Every­body had expect­ed it would be Indians.

Even more trag­i­cal­ly, a few of the peo­ple who escaped the mobs end­ed up being slaugh­tered in lat­er attacks. Much of the colo­nial gov­ern­ment was­n’t Quak­er in the lat­ter half of the cen­tu­ry, includ­ing some of William Pen­n’s descen­dants. Still, Friends today can won­der whether the high-minded promis­es of eter­nal friend­ship between Quak­ers and Indige­nous Peo­ples were more hol­low and aspi­ra­tional than we’d like to admit. (Of course most of the Lenape and Susque­han­nock died from European-imported dis­eases, with every boat­load of set­tlers bring­ing more death to the orig­i­nal inhabitants.)

September Friends Journal

September 4, 2025

The Sep­tem­ber issue of Friends Jour­nal is out. There are a lot of sto­ries about how we get through trou­bled times. From my open­ing col­umn:

One of the roles of faith is to remem­ber that we’ve been here before. We’ve been the wan­der­ing Jews lost in the desert but fed man­na to sur­vive. We remem­ber the dis­ci­ples tak­en by sur­prise by the rush of Roman guards come to arrest our Mes­si­ah, who urged us to put away our swords. We tell sto­ries of a young George Fox wan­der­ing Eng­land look­ing for spir­i­tu­al teach­ers until all his “hopes in them and in all men were gone.” We sur­vive by telling sto­ries. We keep our­selves cen­tered and calm by remem­ber­ing oth­ers who found a path through uncer­tain­ty and assured us they were held up by a Comforter.

www.friendsjournal.org www​.friend​sjour​nal​.org

Navigating Gender Transition as a Quaker

July 13, 2025

New from Quak­er­S­peak, an inter­view with Willa Taber:

Joy was my guide­post through my tran­si­tion,” Willa reflects. “I real­ized that at the age of 70, I was too old to post­pone joy. I real­ized short­ly after that that at four years old, I was too old to post­pone joy, but I didn’t know it then.

Willa was one of the reg­u­lar Quak­er blog­gers back in the day1. I had most­ly lost touch, only hear­ing third hand of the tran­si­tion some­where. I’m glad she’s doing well and still wit­ness­ing to the Truth as revealed to her.

In defense of Quaker media

January 3, 2019

I gath­er that the Quak­er Face­book group is going through one of its reg­u­lar debates about iden­ti­ty and tone and mod­er­a­tion. The prob­lem is Face­book. It is the most direct com­peti­tor of Quaker-produced media. Its algo­rithms and mod­er­a­tor tools are not designed for the kind of con­sid­ered, inclu­sive, Spirit-led, and non-reactive dis­course that is Quak­er style at its ide­al (yes, we blow it our­selves con­stant­ly but hope­ful­ly keep striving).

I post­ed there tonight sug­gest­ing that Friends con­sid­er a media diet that includes more Quak­er media — books and mag­a­zines and blogs and videos and in-real-life dis­cus­sion oppor­tu­ni­ties. I wor­ry that if Face­book groups become the most vis­i­ble style of Quak­er dia­logue, then we will have lost some­thing tru­ly precious.

This mes­sage isn’t new to long­time read­ers of Quak­er­Ran­ter. I extolled blog­ging as a hedge against Face­bookjust yes­ter­day and in August I wrote about some of the dia­logue prob­lems inher­ent in the Face­book mod­el.

I’ve been fig­ur­ing out Face­book strate­gies for Quak­er media since it opened up to non-students cir­ca 2006. I appre­ci­ate much of the atten­tion it’s pro­vid­ed over the years. Social media like YouTube has also been a use­ful plat­form for things like the Quak­er­s­peak projectdespite own­er Google’s spot­ty track record. But it’s becom­ing hard to deny that social media has reshaped the style of civ­il dis­course and troll­ish hack­ery, most­ly for the worse. I think it’s real­ly essen­tial that we become more con­scious of the sources of our dai­ly media diet.

Redefining rude

October 23, 2018

From Mol­ly Shee­han, one of a small “gray wave” of Quak­ers who ran for Con­gress this year (she lost her pri­ma­ry bid):

When the mar­gin­al­ized cry out for com­pas­sion, they are not cen­sor­ing any­body. They are fight­ing for their very right to exist. Non­vi­o­lent dis­obe­di­ence and rewrit­ing the rules of civil­i­ty is for these groups. It is our job, espe­cial­ly as white peo­ple, or those with more soci­etal pow­er and time to protest, to ampli­fy the voic­es of the most marginalized.

https://​mil​len​ni​alpol​i​tics​.co/​r​e​d​e​f​i​n​e​-​r​u​d​e​-​e​m​b​r​a​c​e​-​d​i​s​r​u​p​t​i​ve/

Dynamics of Evil

July 16, 2018

From Patri­cia Dallmann:

Hold­ing the line, speak­ing the truth is the Christian’s (Quaker’s) oblig­a­tion in the Lamb’s War. If the God of truth is hon­ored in just one mind, heart, and soul, the world is not lost, as Jesus showed us by pro­to­typ­al exam­ple. In this state­ment giv­en before Pilate short­ly before the end of his earth­ly life, Jesus iden­ti­fied his life’s pur­pose not only for him­self but for us all.

https://​patradall​mann​.word​press​.com/​2​0​1​8​/​0​7​/​0​1​/​d​y​n​a​m​i​c​s​-​o​f​-​e​v​il/

Does this need to be said?

April 11, 2018

A great piece from newish Quak­er blog­ger Josh Tal­bot on the per­son­al strug­gle to fol­low the peace tes­ti­mo­ny: Not Falling Into the Fire of My Own Ire.

Los­ing your­self to anger is pos­si­ble even with anger focused against injus­tice and cru­el­ty. You can become so focused on the tar­get of your rage. That you do not notice when you have lost sight of your goals and are only in it for the fight. Even fol­low­ing the Peace Tes­ti­mo­ny of Non-Violence we need to rec­og­nize when we are no longer being Non-Aggressive.

Like many con­vinced Friends, I came to the soci­ety through activism. I had met plen­ty of peo­ple who let right­eous anger serve as cov­er for more vis­cer­al hatred. One eye-opening protest in the 90s was in a rur­al part of Penn­syl­va­nia. When one of the locals screamed the cliche of the era — “Go get a job!” — a pro­tes­tor shout­ed back, “I’ve got a job and I make more than you.” It was true even as it was cru­el and irrel­e­vant and braggy.

I did­n’t see this kind of behav­ior as much with the Friends I saw at var­i­ous protests, which is large­ly why I start­ed grav­i­tat­ing toward them when­ev­er pos­si­ble. I could see that there was some­thing in the Quak­er cul­ture and val­ue sys­tem that was able to nav­i­gate between right­eous and per­son­al anger and draw the line in dif­fi­cult sit­u­a­tions. I love Josh’s descrip­tion of the “Craig Fer­gu­son” method:

I ask myself. “Does this need to be said?” “Does this need to be said by me?” “Does this need to be said by me right now?” Doing this cuts down on moments of spon­ta­neous anger.

This could also describe the Quak­er dis­cern­ment method for min­istry. Maybe there’s some­thing to the care we take (or at least aim for) in that process that gives us a lit­tle more self-discipline in the heat of protest or that helps us sort through thorny eth­i­cal issues that run through our own community.

https://​quak​er​re​turns​.blogspot​.com/​2​0​1​8​/​0​4​/​n​o​t​-​f​a​l​l​i​n​g​-​i​n​t​o​-​f​i​r​e​-​o​f​-​m​y​-​o​w​n​-​i​r​e​.​h​tml