Standing with the Marginalized, with Anthony Manousos)

September 22, 2025

This week I talked with my old Friend Antho­ny Manousos about the [waves hand in the air] polit­i­cal sit­u­a­tion we’re in. I’ve known Antho­ny for over 28 years now, back when we were part of a con­fer­ence to try to kick-start what lat­er was reborn as Quak­er Vol­un­tary Ser­vice (spoil­er: our attempt failed for what I think were most­ly gen­er­a­tional issues). Antho­ny is still protest­ing and wit­ness­ing to make a bet­ter world. I loved hear­ing his sto­ry of coali­tion work and the joy of orga­niz­ing with music. His arti­cle, “We Have No King,” appears in this mon­th’s Friends Jour­nal

I asked him what Quak­ers bring to protests:

One of the impor­tant things that we bring is our way of wor­ship. And our way of wor­ship helps to bring the tem­per­a­ture down. I think what the cur­rent regime wants is a vio­lent move­ment oppos­ing them. That plays out what they want (and cer­tain­ly the assas­si­na­tion of Char­lie Kirk plays into that sce­nario). What Quak­ers bring is a com­mit­ment to peace­ful protest. And when we’re around, we can be that strong, com­mit­ted, peace­ful pres­ence. And that’s important.

I also asked him a follow-up ques­tion of what we need to do to get out of the way and accept the lead­er­ship of oth­ers in social change. You can lis­ten to his answers or read them in the show notes

A Journey of Conscience: Ron Marullo’s Story

September 16, 2025

I talked with Friends Jour­nal author Ronald Marul­lo this week. His arti­cle, “I Aint’ March­ing Any­more” (a nod to Phil Ochs of course), recounts his path to con­sci­en­tious objec­tion dur­ing the Viet­nam war, helped by a very knowl­edgable Quak­er coun­selor. It always amazes me that just a few con­ver­sa­tions at the right time can help some­one clar­i­fy their beliefs and set their lives on a dif­fer­ent path.

I was espe­cial­ly inter­est­ed in talk­ing about the after-effects of the CO process since I went through some­thing sim­i­lar myself. Around age 17 my father start­ed lob­by­ing hard for me to go to the Naval Acad­e­my at Annapo­lis. Except for a few years in Pres­by­ter­ian Sun­day School we had grown up most­ly a‑religious and I found the idea intrigu­ing. I think in ret­ro­spect I was most­ly excit­ed by the idea of an order­ly life that might address my ADHD (called hyper­ac­tiv­i­ty in those days). I got far enough into the process to take a phys­i­cal and get a let­ter of com­men­da­tion from our con­gressper­son but then thought more about the mil­i­tary itself. I real­ized I did­n’t feel com­fort­able join­ing an orga­ni­za­tion whose pur­pose was threat­en­ing to kill. I had on prin­ci­ple, and with­out much delib­er­a­tion, decid­ed not to engage in school­yard fights years before, and suf­fered the reg­u­lar humil­i­a­tions that comes of being the small­est kid in class who every­one knows won’t fight back. To the dis­ap­point­ment of my father I stopped the appli­ca­tion process for the navy. As I pon­dered what to do next, I asked myself what oth­er val­ues might come from my new­found paci­fism. Over the next few years I explored var­i­ous leads and — being in the Philadel­phia area — start­ed run­ning into Quak­ers, some of whom had a kind of inner con­vic­tion I found intriguing.

So while I was far too young to ever wor­ry about a draft, I did have a sim­i­lar defin­ing “what do I believe” moment as a teenag­er. As Ron says in our author chat pod­cast:

That was a turn­ing point in my life. I made deci­sions from fill­ing out those forms and answer­ing those ques­tions actu­al­ly made con­crete what I had inside me, ide­al­ly. You think about this and think about that and whether or not you hold it true. But when you have to put it all on paper and you have to sub­mit it to the world, it changes you. And I’ve lived by that phi­los­o­phy since that age. I’ve done it in my edu­ca­tion­al expe­ri­ence with chil­dren. I’ve done it in my pri­vate life with friends, care­giv­ing oth­ers. My wife and I have been doing that, you know, for decades.

September Friends Journal

September 4, 2025

The Sep­tem­ber issue of Friends Jour­nal is out. There are a lot of sto­ries about how we get through trou­bled times. From my open­ing col­umn:

One of the roles of faith is to remem­ber that we’ve been here before. We’ve been the wan­der­ing Jews lost in the desert but fed man­na to sur­vive. We remem­ber the dis­ci­ples tak­en by sur­prise by the rush of Roman guards come to arrest our Mes­si­ah, who urged us to put away our swords. We tell sto­ries of a young George Fox wan­der­ing Eng­land look­ing for spir­i­tu­al teach­ers until all his “hopes in them and in all men were gone.” We sur­vive by telling sto­ries. We keep our­selves cen­tered and calm by remem­ber­ing oth­ers who found a path through uncer­tain­ty and assured us they were held up by a Comforter.

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Michael Jay on Cost of Compromise

August 11, 2025

Lessons from 1842, when Indi­ana Friends were torn between anti­slav­ery and partisanship.

I’m start­ing to won­der if it’s time to revis­it that 19th cen­tu­ry advice, and step back. I’ve seen too much of the cor­rupt­ing influ­ence of par­ti­san­ship. I’ve seen too many argu­ments from peo­ple who know bet­ter about which peo­ple are not real­ly peo­ple. I’ve too many friends who have become polit­i­cal argu­ments which do not respect their humanity.

Education and Empowerment in Post-Civil War America: Lynette Love

August 7, 2025

I talk with Lynette Love, who’s writ­ten an arti­cle about a post-Civil War school in South Car­oli­na that was start­ed by Friends.

We dis­cuss the life and impact of Cor­nelia Han­cock, a Quak­er nurse dur­ing the Civ­il War who played a sig­nif­i­cant role in estab­lish­ing Freed­men Schools in South Car­oli­na. The dis­cus­sion cov­ers Han­cock­’s brav­ery, the human­i­tar­i­an cri­sis of con­tra­band dur­ing the war, and the lega­cy of edu­ca­tion for freed slaves. Lynette also address­es the cur­rent con­tro­ver­sies sur­round­ing her book about this his­to­ry, touch­ing on themes of cen­sor­ship and the impor­tance of remem­ber­ing the full scope of his­to­ry, includ­ing its dark­er aspects.

In today’s polit­i­cal cli­mate, not every­one is com­fort­able with that full scope. A report in the Charleston Post and Couri­er last month says that Love’s book has been flagged under Sec­re­tary of the Inte­ri­or Doug Burgum’s May 2025 order titled “Restor­ing Truth and San­i­ty to Amer­i­can His­to­ry.” Here’s a clip of Lynette and I talk­ing about this.

Black Resistance to Quaker Enslavement

August 4, 2025

Nice detec­tive work in this arti­cle by Jim Fussell. In recent years, we’ve flipped the tra­di­tion­al script of Friends as unal­loyed sav­iors for their work on man­u­mis­sions and the abo­li­tion of slav­ery. We now affirm that many held slaves begin­ning in 1655, when Quak­er mis­sion­ar­ies Ann Austin and Mary Fish­er land­ed on the heav­i­ly enslaved island of Bar­ba­dos and con­vinced a num­ber of the White enslavers to become Friends. A few years lat­er Mary Fish­er then went on trav­el to Turkey to try to con­vince the sul­tan of the Ottoman Empire. Despite her amaz­ing brav­ery, in her will Fish­er named a “Indi­an girle Slave, named Reigner.” .

We now talk about the era in which Quak­ers were slave­hold­ers but Jim goes a step fur­ther to talk about the enslaved Africans’ resis­tance to Quak­er enslavers. In an era in which we’re once more appar­ent­ly debat­ing if vio­lence against prop­er­ty is okay, the sto­ry of two enslaved women, Grace and Jane, burn­ing a plan­ta­tion tobac­co barn seems almost quaint­ly direct action.

YouTube: I’m an Atheist. I Visited a Quaker Church.

August 2, 2025

Jared is an athe­ist YouTu­ber whose schtick is vis­it­ing dif­fer­ent church­es. I’ve watched him before so was thrilled to see he’s now vis­it­ed Friends.

He’s very good at observ­ing and under­stand­ing and explain­ing what he’s seen. There’s no sub­stan­tive inac­cu­ra­cies here. He had a deeply mov­ing expe­ri­ence that he says he won’t forget.

That said, he felt dis­ap­point­ed that the meet­ing he vis­it­ed wasn’t more dis­tinct­ly Quak­er, call­ing it a “bait and switch almost.” The only min­istry was polit­i­cal and while he does a good job defend­ing the speaker’s com­pas­sion he says that it felt “solemn but not sacred” to him, which I think is a fas­ci­nat­ing way of putting it:

I’m real­ly inter­est­ed in the hand­ful of peo­ple who feel like they’ve touched God. I don’t, but It’s still a pro­found thing to talk to some­body who’s don’t that.

He grew up Pen­te­costal and knew that there was a lot of crossover with ear­ly Friends. That’s what he was look­ing for. I think his obser­va­tions on this was prob­a­bly pret­ty fair for most Lib­er­al Friends meet­ings today. I think there are oth­er seek­ers like him want­i­ng to expe­ri­ence some­thing more dis­tinc­tive­ly and reli­gious­ly Quak­er. Over­all, an awe­some video, very recommended.

When a Philadelphia Hostel Provided Refuge for Victims of Internment Camps

July 31, 2025

Great sto­ry in Hid­den City Philadel­phia about Quak­er aid to government-displaced Japan­ese Amer­i­cans dur­ing WW2. A coali­tion of peace activists, Quak­ers, and reli­gious pro­gres­sives opened a hos­tel in West Philly and orga­nized col­lege admis­sions to area schools.